qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: * Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League. Bettman has the discretion to step in an look at when and what Montreal knew about Prices injury. If their doc's told them days ago there was a serious problem it should have been disclosed to the league to determine the extent of it. By releasing conflicting and incomplete info via the media they are not giving Seattle a fair consideration of the list provided by Montreal. Here the thing. Neither Price or Weber were required to meet exposure requirements. Montreal has McNiven to satisfy the Goaltender requirement. So this is meaningless. if they had known earlier Weber and Price may have been exempt. (Like Ferland). NEXT Edited July 19, 2021 by qwijibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: * Players with potential career-ending injuries who have missed more than the previous 60 consecutive games (or who otherwise have been confirmed to have a career-threatening injury) may not be used to satisfy a club's player exposure requirements, unless approval is received from the NHL. Such players also may be deemed exempt from selection by the League. Bettman has the discretion to step in an look at when and what Montreal knew about Prices injury. If their doc's told them days ago there was a serious problem it should have been disclosed to the league to determine the extent of it. By releasing conflicting and incomplete info via the media they are not giving Seattle a fair consideration of the list provided by Montreal. They've already released their list of exempt players. No rules were broken. Do you work for Seattle now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, RWMc1 said: They've already released their list of exempt players. No rules were broken. Do you work for Seattle now? No he just hates Montreal and looks for any reason to throw shade 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, RWMc1 said: They've already released their list of exempt players. No rules were broken. Do you work for Seattle now? the injury info on Price came out today. If they knew and didn't disclose it then yes, Bettman may rule theres a problem here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 5 minutes ago, qwijibo said: Here the thing. Neither Price or Weber were required to meet exposure requirements. Montreal has McNiven to satisfy the Goaltender requirement. So this is meaningless. if they had known earlier Weber and Price may have been exempt. (Like Ferland). NEXT right, lying about a players health is meaningless for the ED. Got it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: the injury info on Price came out today. If they knew and didn't disclose it then yes, Bettman may rule theres a problem here. Considering Montreal met the player exposure requirements without Price being considered your point is meaningless. The timing of the injury report hurts Montreal more than helps. If they had known sooner he may have qualified to be exempt. Structural injuries can take awhile to diagnose. You need to wait for the swelling up fo down. Regardless Seattle can choose to ignore the report and Tske Price if they want too. He’s still 100% available to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: right, lying about a players health is meaningless for the ED. Got it. Oh now they’re lying. Lol. Do you have some proof to back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, qwijibo said: Considering Montreal met the player exposure requirements without Price being considered your point is meaningless. The timing of the injury report hurts Montreal more than helps. If they had known sooner he may have qualified to be exempt. Structural injuries can take awhile to diagnose. You need to wait for the swelling up fo down. Regardless Seattle can choose to ignore the report and Tske Price if they want too. He’s still 100% available to them cool how you're skirting around the issue of his NMC and being able to protect another player, but yeah sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, qwijibo said: Oh now they’re lying. Lol. Do you have some proof to back that up? no but Bettman might, and I hope he does look into it. Its time to stop, you're such a Montreal homer you'd never admit anything is going on here, we're not going to reach an agreement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: the injury info on Price came out today. If they knew and didn't disclose it then yes, Bettman may rule theres a problem here. If it is a real injury then Seattle has to factor that in like they would with any other player. Announcing it earlier would not change that much. He finished the Playoffs so betteman can't claim he was damaged goods. If it's fabricated, then that is an issue for sure. I doubt they would do that though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, RWMc1 said: If it is a real injury then Seattle has to factor that in like they would with any other player. Announcing it earlier would not change that much. He finished the Playoffs so betteman can't claim he was damaged goods. If it's fabricated, then that is an issue for sure. I doubt they would do that though. Its pretty important info to keep until after the ED list is put out. It should be vetted by Bettman imo, if he thinks its fine then so be it, but it looks potentially slimy to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: cool how you're skirting around the issue of his NMC and being able to protect another player, but yeah sure. How is that an issue? I actually addressed it. If you knew there might be an injury concern with your starting goalie and your backup goalie was likely to go in the ED wouldn’t you talk to your injured starter and get him to waive his NMC so you don’t end up without a starting goalie or a backup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, qwijibo said: How is that an issue? I actually addressed it. If you knew there might be an injury concern with your starting goalie and your backup goalie was likely to go in the ED wouldn’t you talk to your injured starter and get him to waive his NMC so you don’t end up without a starting goalie or a backup? I'm done champ. Hopefully Bettman isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: no but Bettman might, and I hope he does look into it. Its time to stop, you're such a Montreal homer you'd never admit anything is going on here, we're not going to reach an agreement. I’m dealing with facts. No rules have been broken. Homer or not they’re facts. Your dealing with accusations based on your hate of the franchise. The one rule you suggested was broken had zero baring on anything. Yet you feel comfortable throwing around the word circumvention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: I'm done champ. Hopefully Bettman isn't. Bettman won’t have a single thing to say about it because there hasn’t been a rule violation. Edited July 19, 2021 by qwijibo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWMc1 Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, Jimmy McGill said: Its pretty important info to keep until after the ED list is put out. It should be vetted by Bettman imo, if he thinks its fine then so be it, but it looks potentially slimy to me. What would the difference be if it was announced earlier. Price played enough to not qualify for the LTIR exemption. Would Montreal have been forced to protect him? The only thing it did was put a question mark over Price. Announcing the injury sooner would have just done that a little sooner. Seattle would still have to factor that into their decision. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 I am not quite following the Price drama. It's still a major risk to expose him. Injury or not. Or is the implication that if they released the info earlier he would have been exempt and they'd be forced to expose McNiven? Given he played very recently I am not so sure he'd have been exempt from the draft for injury reasons. Either way, if I am Seattle I probably take him. They can LTIR Price, run Holtby and/or Kappo Kakhonen until playoffs. Losing a regular season of Price won't be so bad when there are so many other quality goalies exposed. Then at the playoffs you get Price back. Who is proven to be nuts in the playoffs. Seattle can pull a Tampa Bay. What a way to enter the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwijibo Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Just now, N7Nucks said: I am not quite following the Price drama. It's still a major risk to expose him. Injury or not. Or is the implication that if they released the info earlier he would have been exempt and they'd be forced to expose McNiven? Given he played very recently I am not so sure he'd have been exempt from the draft for injury reasons. Either way, if I am Seattle I probably take him. They can LTIR Price, run Holtby and/or Kappo Kakhonen until playoffs. Losing a regular season of Price won't be so bad when there are so many other quality goalies exposed. Then at the playoffs you get Price back. Who is proven to be nuts in the playoffs. Seattle can pull a Tampa Bay. What a way to enter the league. Theres really not much drama. Just a few people trying to make a big deal over nothing. people are questioning the timing of the injury report like they’re not legit or something. End of the day Seattle is free to choose Price and take their chances it’s the severity of the injury. Price is meeting with a specialist in New York but I seriously doubt the results will be known prior to the draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 MTL is my 2nd team, but I hope they get screwed here and Seattle takes Price. I mean, they have to right? Or is Drouin too much potential to pass up on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzipunch Posted July 19, 2021 Share Posted July 19, 2021 Wouldnt want to go anywhere near drouin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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