aGENT Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said: If they have both Pettersson and Horvat as untouchables, then it makes it more likely that Miller is the one that gets moved. That's been pretty obvious to some of us for a while now Rutherford keeps talking about getting younger, faster, cheaper... and people keep dancing around the oldest forward, due the biggest raise... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 minute ago, aGENT said: That's been pretty obvious to some of us for a while now Rutherford keeps talking about getting younger, faster, cheaper... and people keep dancing around the oldest forward, due the biggest raise... Should we close this thread then? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Just now, -Vintage Canuck- said: Should we close this thread then? It does seem pretty vapour based, but you're the mod 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: It does seem pretty vapour based, but you're the mod Alright, we'll keep it open just for the imaginary trade proposals... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Vancouver fans when they think about trading Miller or Horvat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 (edited) What NYR fans and other team fans are willing to give ... Edited February 1, 2022 by IBatch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 32 thoughts podcast Canucks from 12:04-18:30 Interesting statements on Garland to NJ. boesers QO, Miller and his return and how to deal with OEL or Myers in the market. https://32-thoughts-the-podcast.simplecast.com/episodes/price-speaks-and-is-the-michigan-boring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 9 hours ago, IBatch said: Vancouver fans when they think about trading Miller or Horvat Wow! Never knew Arnold was such a racist! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 12 hours ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Not surprised that Boeser is not on that list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Horvat needs a new deal in summer of 2023, is RNH not a great comparable for the Canucks to use in contract negotiations? Signed 8 yrs with a full NMC for all 8 years with a cap hit of 5.125m?? Why should we give Horvat more? I know he is the captain, but he really is a 2nd line C who gets in the 50-60pt range...if he wants 7m or more with term I think I would rather give JT more $ and trade Captain Bo Vs. giving him a long term 7m or more deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Canuckster86 said: Horvat needs a new deal in summer of 2023, is RNH not a great comparable for the Canucks to use in contract negotiations? Signed 8 yrs with a full NMC for all 8 years with a cap hit of 5.125m?? Why should we give Horvat more? I know he is the captain, but he really is a 2nd line C who gets in the 50-60pt range...if he wants 7m or more with term I think I would rather give JT more $ and trade Captain Bo Vs. giving him a long term 7m or more deal 6x6 is OK in my books. Brings him to age 34. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
86Viking Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 2 hours ago, coryberg said: 6x6 is OK in my books. Brings him to age 34. Ya that would be my max for his current output, I see the price being more for him to stay here though. He may bet on himself and not sign an extension this off season in hopes he has a career year in a...contract year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 10 hours ago, coryberg said: 6x6 is OK in my books. Brings him to age 34. What's the maximum amount of term Horvat can be given by the Canucks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, Canuckster86 said: Ya that would be my max for his current output, I see the price being more for him to stay here though. He may bet on himself and not sign an extension this off season in hopes he has a career year in a...contract year! He's got a young family. i think he's going to go with stability. If he can be offered 8 years, I think he takes that, but it'd be less than 6M. 5.75M for 8 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 8 hours ago, N4ZZY said: What's the maximum amount of term Horvat can be given by the Canucks? You can give 8 years maximum if you own the players rights and 7 years if they are a UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 38 minutes ago, coryberg said: You can give 8 years maximum if you own the players rights and 7 years if they are a UFA. I’m sure Bo’s going to want the maximum term for security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rackdawg Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 On 1/30/2022 at 8:33 PM, qwijibo said: You think Horvat is worth 3 recent high 1st round picks (including the 1st oa just a season and a half ago) plus another 1st round pick? That’s insane. Lol true enough ..Horvats the most overated canuck 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 9 hours ago, N4ZZY said: He's got a young family. i think he's going to go with stability. If he can be offered 8 years, I think he takes that, but it'd be less than 6M. 5.75M for 8 years. That's the nice thing about Horvat. Either he signs for 5-6 years where we get all his 'prime' years before his 32-33 year old drop off at probably $6m-something, or he signs for max term where he's 'underpaid' through his prime and a touch 'overpaid' as the 3C he likely is by those last couple years (with rising cap to help compensate). THAT is why he's the guy to keep vs Miller. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: That's the nice thing about Horvat. Either he signs for 5-6 years where we get all his 'prime' years before his 32-33 year old drop off at probably $6m-something, or he signs for max term where he's 'underpaid' through his prime and a touch 'overpaid' as the 3C he likely is by those last couple years (with rising cap to help compensate). THAT is why he's the guy to keep vs Miller. Yep. I agree. You think Miller could sign for 6 years at 7M? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Rackdawg said: Lol true enough ..Horvats the most overated canuck Aren’t centers generally more valuable? He’s a decent 2nd line centre, probably an elite 3rd line centre on a contending team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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