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2 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

I don’t think those games will happen.

 

I think they’ll be announcing and shutdown today.

Why?  Probably the most likely is tomorrow.  Canucks haven't had any cases since Poolman's and King's most likely false positives.  Leafs have two which could be more before the game tomorrow which might be the time they cancel if they suddenly have like 5-10.  There's no reason why they cancel for the Leafs having two guys out and the Canucks having 3.

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Just now, Rindiculous said:

Why?  Probably the most likely is tomorrow.  Canucks haven't had any cases since Poolman's and King's most likely false positives.  Leafs have two which could be more before the game tomorrow which might be the time they cancel if they suddenly have like 5-10.  There's no reason why they cancel for the Leafs having two guys out and the Canucks having 3.

If it’s a league wide pause to the season it doesn’t matter how many guys we have in protocol.

 

Its starting to get ridiculous now with the number of players going into protocol and the games being postponed. It starts to mess with the integrity of the season at this point.

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1 minute ago, DeNiro said:

If it’s a league wide pause to the season it doesn’t matter how many guys we have in protocol.

 

Its starting to get ridiculous now with the number of players going into protocol and the games being postponed. It starts to mess with the integrity of the season at this point.

Not really.  League wide shutdown would make 0 sense.  They shut down for 2-3 weeks and they get a couple weeks in getting back and boom players have Covid again.  Frank Seravalli probably said it best on the morning show.  Yes they'll keep postponing games, but logistically the NHL can't really shut down the league.

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2 minutes ago, Rindiculous said:

Not really.  League wide shutdown would make 0 sense.  They shut down for 2-3 weeks and they get a couple weeks in getting back and boom players have Covid again.  Frank Seravalli probably said it best on the morning show.  Yes they'll keep postponing games, but logistically the NHL can't really shut down the league.

They don’t have a choice.

 

They need to take a pause and examine their protocols and start to look at the real possibility of going to a bubble format.

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3 minutes ago, DeNiro said:

They don’t have a choice.

 

They need to take a pause and examine their protocols and start to look at the real possibility of going to a bubble format.

Bubble format would not work.  It was ok for one playoffs, but that is it and would be a completely stupid overreaction which would possibly cause the league to fold.  What they might reexamine in their protocols is what constitutes putting a player into covid protocol?  If he is asymptomatic, should he be allowed to play?  That might be something they change because this is not going away and forcing shutdowns as a completely kneejerk reaction could be the worst thing that this league could do at this point and I believe most of the NHL office knows this.

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9 minutes ago, Rindiculous said:

Bubble format would not work.  It was ok for one playoffs, but that is it and would be a completely stupid overreaction which would possibly cause the league to fold.  What they might reexamine in their protocols is what constitutes putting a player into covid protocol?  If he is asymptomatic, should he be allowed to play?  That might be something they change because this is not going away and forcing shutdowns as a completely kneejerk reaction could be the worst thing that this league could do at this point and I believe most of the NHL office knows this.

The bubble format in more cities would work if it came down to it. I don’t think it will get to that point but it’s become more likely than it was at the start of the season.

 

It is not an overreaction when player cases are spiralling out of control. You can’t have teams playing without half their roster. That completely destroys the integrity of the game.

 

At this point the virus will shut down the season if the league doesn’t. We’re already seeing games being postponed every day now. That will only become more and more frequent until there will be no time to finish the season.

 

If they pause now and implement new testing measures and new protocols they may be able to continue the season through the next wave. If they continue like this we’ll for sure see the season cancelled similar to the 2019-20 season.

 

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6 minutes ago, tan said:

with hindsight, if we hire BB 2 years earlier or never hired Green, we would be a much better team each and every year. Bruce indeed is a very experienced NHL level coach.

The lousy finish(& top-10 pick) helped facilitate the OEL, Garland acquisition. Also after being coached by a donkey, all Canucks skaters prob now feel like jockeys upon Seabiscuit, in his prime. We may's well accept the good w/the bad, & the team goes fwd with clear conscience...

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5 hours ago, CanucksJay said:

He was fricking awful man. 

Wake up

His system was trash, his special teams were atrocious on both sides. 

His line deployment was puzzling. 

Look at the recent stats in quick ups and the major difference between the two coaches. 

Look at how BB keeps putting EP out for draws instead of hiding him from it by having Miller take the draws. 

Look at how hes using Dickinson entirely differently. 

Look at our pk units. 

 

Green was absolutely tanking this team. 

In the recent mic'd up with Miller, you can see how involved BB is on the PP giving players direction. 

 

Absolute nonsense for those that defend Green. 

 

Guys who actually played in the NHL contradict your take on Green and wadr their opinions hold way more water. 

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2 minutes ago, canuck73_3 said:

Guys who actually played in the NHL contradict your take on Green and wadr their opinions hold way more water. 

you don't need to have played in the NHL to know a historically bad PK isn't a good thing.

 

Green had the wrong system for this team, thats obvious to all.

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42 minutes ago, BCNate said:

Worst thing that can happen to the Canucks is a shortened season.  That would all but eliminate any chance we have of getting into the playoffs.

True. But in that case, I think they will schedule games during 2-week February buffer (no, they are not going to the Olympics) and implement expanded playoff berths like 2019-20 season. That would help the Canucks get to the playoffs.

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Just now, JM_ said:

you don't need to have played in the NHL to know a historically bad PK isn't a good thing.

 

Green had the wrong system for this team, thats obvious to all.

Not disagreeing with that, but that falls on special teams coaching as much as him. Also on JB for remaining status quo despite there being obvious deficiencies. The ball was dropped far beyond Green. 

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2 hours ago, higgyfan said:

In my experience, this is a myth.  I have worked in a lot of different situations; both union and non-union.  The only difference I saw is that people were paid more and (sometimes) were respected more in the union jobs.  I don't think being unionized changes a person's core work ethic. If a person is lazy, they will probably always be lazy and the same goes for the hardworking individual.

 

I've also noticed that the unions have far less power than they once had.

But once they pass probation, their protection for being lazy is greatly increased. 

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1 minute ago, canuck73_3 said:

Not disagreeing with that, but that falls on special teams coaching as much as him. Also on JB for remaining status quo despite there being obvious deficiencies. The ball was dropped far beyond Green. 

yes there is blame to go around, but Jim isn't going to tell Green how to coach. Jim did wait too long to fire Green for sure, but he had to do it due to Green's poor performance.

 

Green is responsible for how his assistants coach, he can't escape that. It all lands squarely on Green.

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