[Rumour] Canucks interested in John Marino

[RWJC]

Just now, Elias Pettersson said:

On the phone right now.  Cammi is my backup call...

Nioooce.

 

Remind him that Halak needs to go too, please.

[khay]

2 hours ago, RWJC said:

I ask you this. If he’s super good, why are the Pens contemplating trading him when their D is aging? I mentioned this in another thread.  They have Pettersson and Joseph earmarked for the future. Why not Marino?  

This is exactly what I was thinking too.

 

I'd hold off on trading anyone off the roster, but would rather add players depending on the outcome of the current home stand.

 

The way the boys came back last night was very inspiring. The building was electric, well until the refs stepped in and decided that they didn't like Canucks fans being happy.

 

[EddieVedder]

2 hours ago, Odd. said:

Marino is a super good player. Getting him would instantly change the dynamics of our defense without question.

 

I wouldn’t mind trading Boeser for Marino, plus a roster player like Rodrigues and picks. 
 

Or a Myers Marino swap.

No thanks.  Youre overrating marino by a country mile.  If he was that good pens wouldnt be trading him. 

[RWJC]

27 minutes ago, Elias Pettersson said:

You may not believe me but Canucks management does monitor this website.

 

Trust me on that one...  

Off topic, but along the lines of what you said…

 

This is gonna sound crazy but it’s a true story. A lonnnng time ago, my pop was friends with a fella named Sandor Kovacs. I didn’t know who we was, but we were visiting once and he asked if I watched wrestling. I was just a kid and of course I did, so he asked me who my fave was. It was Macho. He then asked me if I could go see any live WWF wrestling event in Vancouver who would I want to see wrestle in the main event.

I told him Hulk and King Kong Bundy in a steel cage match. He laughed and told me he liked that idea.

 

A few months later he came to our house and was again hanging out with my pop watching hockey. Before he left he came to my room and told me he had something for me but I couldn’t open it up until he left.

 

as soon as he was out the door, I started ripping at the envelope. Again, didn’t know who he was, but before I could get the envelope open, my pop came in and stopped me and told me that Sandor was the booking agent for WWF and was responsible for putting together the cards for the house shows. 
 

srill didn’t know what that meant, but opened the envelope and inside were a whole bunch of glossy 8x10’s of wrestlers, all autographed. 
behind that was a note from Sandor with two tickets to a WWF show at the PNE. The note said “thanks for the tip, I did my best. Hope you have fun” and the main event was Hogan, Macho and Hacksaw Duggan against Bundy, Rick Rude, and Harley Race.

 

I saw him some time after the show and he told me that they often would ask fans in advance for input on upcoming shows and then ribbed me a bit saying I should work for him in the future. Needless to say as a kid my imagination ran wild like hulkamania.

 

yeah I know, cool story bro.
 

anyway, apologies, short story long, but it would not surprise me if there is someone from the Nux monitoring these boards as part of their fan engagement. 

Edited March 13, 2022 by RWJC

[Vinny in Vancouver]

42 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Going out on a limb here but if we traded Garland or Boes to PIT, my next move if I was PA/JR would be under the radar and try to pry Kessel out of ARZ for a similar cap dump contract like Poolman. 
 

All ridicule aside, Kessel is still a playoff beast running an Ironman streak. He could replace BB’s goal production in the very short term, is still fast, and his contract expires at the end of this season. Defensively he’s as good as Boeser so no loss there.

 

thoughts? Flame away, haha

Well, we do have Japadog...

[RWJC]

8 minutes ago, Vinny in Vancouver said:

Well, we do have Japadog...

That Pens logo in the bottom left —- in front of the cup —- looks a bit like the Johnny Canuck logo at very quick glance.

 

could this be…foreshadowing??

 

Is Kessel the missing link to our first ever  cup?!? Magic 8 ball says…

[khay]

1 hour ago, RWJC said:

Going out on a limb here but if we traded Garland or Boes to PIT, my next move if I was PA/JR would be under the radar and try to pry Kessel out of ARZ for a similar cap dump contract like Poolman. 
 

All ridicule aside, Kessel is still a playoff beast running an Ironman streak. He could replace BB’s goal production in the very short term, is still fast, and his contract expires at the end of this season. Defensively he’s as good as Boeser so no loss there.

 

thoughts? Flame away, haha

Kessel would be a fine replacement. But what would be the cost? I'm sure there will be other suitors and the Coyotes can probably get a late 1st from one of the contenders. Not sure if we should give up our 1st or 2nd for a rental.

 

[cuporbust]

This just in.....

 

Canucks not interested in anyone you herd about .

 

 A fringe 4th d man that should be on the bottom pair . Riveting. 

 

Oh......but he's a right shot... I forgot 

Edited March 13, 2022 by cuporbust

[aGENT]

1 hour ago, RWJC said:

Please keep in mind that Kap is currently their version of Chiasson being healthy scratched the last two games. He’s streaky and inconsistent too.

More like their slightly older Hoglander.

[RWJC]

2 minutes ago, khay said:

Kessel would be a fine replacement. But what would be the cost? I'm sure there will be other suitors and the Coyotes can probably get a late 1st from one of the contenders. Not sure if we should give up our 1st or 2nd for a rental.

 

Rumour is a 3rd round pick and that they'll retain 50% of his contract.  

Question is if he'd even want to come here? Doubt it. He's had his time in the limelight hockey market and apparently isn't too fond of it.

Im just messing around, but if he agreed to it, I'd be all over it if it meant cap dump from our side.

[RWJC]

1 minute ago, aGENT said:

More like their slightly older Hoglander.

Yeah true, maybe a hybrid of the two.

Not talking about the way they play the game, but more their current status on the depth chart.

[aGENT]

46 minutes ago, RWJC said:

Yeah true, maybe a hybrid of the two.

Not talking about the way they play the game, but more their current status on the depth chart.

No. He's in no way, anything like Chiasson. For starters, he's a very good skater. Hoglander was getting scratched not long ago as well.

Edited March 13, 2022 by aGENT

[T.Demko]

2 hours ago, DeNiro said:

Not talking about Marino.

 

Im talking about freeing up 5 mil

At the cost of what?  No one is giving us value, rather we have to pay to rid of those deadweight.  We are already too thin in our futures cupboard and we certainly aren't at the caliber to go all in.

[RWJC]

35 minutes ago, aGENT said:

No. He's in no way, anything like Chiasson. For starters, he's a very good skater. Hoglander was getting scratched not long ago as well.

No man, I said depth chart.

Meaning, at the moment, he's not guaranteed to even be rostered.

Besides, Hoglander is a sophomore.

Kapanen is working on his 7th season in the NHL.

 

This is but from one game, admittedly, but here (I can locate you other analysis if you wish):  

Kasperi Kapanen Floating Away; Shift-by-Shift Diary of Struggling Winger

February 22, 2022

 

So, just how bad is it? Pittsburgh Penguins winger Kasperi Kapanen hasn’t scored or been close in 12 games.

On Saturday afternoon, Penguins head coach Mike Sullivan abandoned his reconfigured lines and returned to what looked best on paper; Kapanen beside Evgeni Malkin and Danton Heinen. It should be an offensive weapon.

However, after a full game of intense analysis and watching every stride, we can offer some insights to the burning question, “what is wrong with Kasperi Kapanen.”

 

The answers are surprising for a player who has a 20-goal season on his resume and who torched NHL defensemen last season with Evgeni Malkin.

That player surely doesn’t exist in the present. After watching Kapanen play just over 12 minutes on Saturday and attempt ZERO shots despite Evgeni Malkin playing well, it’s clear the Penguins may need to serve some press box nachos. The conclusion is at the end if you want to skim the gory details and get the good stuff.

“You could probably imagine where he’s at, as far as his own personal headspace. You know, these guys are great athletes, and they care a lot, and they pride themselves in what they do, but they’re also human beings,” head coach Mike Sullivan said on Thursday. “And when things don’t go the right way, they go through ups and downs with respect to their self-confidence, just like every other person in the world. Kappy is a guy that cares a lot about his own game. He cares a lot about the Penguins, and we’re just trying to help them through the process.

Just trying to get him to simplify his game, shoot the puck more, go to the net. Do things that take some of the thinking out of it and maybe take some of the mindset of worrying about scoring and just focusing on playing the game the right way.”

That didn’t happen on Saturday.

 

1st period:

4:20: Kaperi Kapanen didn’t get his first shift until four minutes into the game due to a Rangers PP. In the defensive zone, tipped the puck off the wall out to center. He got on the forecheck and applied soft pressure to Rangers defenseman Jacob Trouba; he was maybe a step slow on the forecheck, but he created an errant pass. Nothing else came of it.

5:50: Kapanen got back in a defensive position. However, he didn’t work very hard to defend. He flowed to the middle as the play went to the far side, but he didn’t grab a man when the play came back at him. The Pittsburgh Penguins yielded a high danger scoring chance right in front of Kapanen.

8:00 — The Penguins had an offensive opportunity after a Rangers icing call: an offensive zone faceoff. However, nothing much came of it. Kapanen sort of floated through the shift, neither making himself readily available nor forcing any issues. New York had a long shot on goal at the end of the shift, and that was that.

10:51: Nothing much to it. Tripped at center. Tipped the puck forward. Got back in defensive position.

14:30: Power play. Hung out at the top of the zone. No significant touches.

16:40: Offensive zone faceoff. Kapanen forechecked, and there was a loose puck below the goal line. He and Danton Heinen lost the battle, and the Rangers transitioned with possession.

19:40: There wasn’t much time left in the period, but Kapanen raced to the end wall after a puck. The Penguins had possession as a scrum broke out at the buzzer. Everyone grabbed someone. Malkin, Kris Letang and Danton Heinen were in the middle of the action. Brian Dumoulin was on the bottom of the pile. Kapanen glided over without getting involved.

 

2nd Period:

2:10: A looping shift in the offensive zone. Kasperi Kapanen got the puck on the rush, pulled up on the mid-wall, and tried to chip it lower. He could have taken it low, followed his own chip, or waited for a trailer. Wasted touch.

Kapanen was skipped on the next shift as Guentzel and Crosby double shifted to play with Malkin. The line had no less than three crowd-engaging scoring chances. They were buzzing.

7:20: The Pittsburgh Penguins had offensive zone possession. Kapanen was caught in the slot, not available to his teammates, but not creating any pressure either. He floated to the top of the zone before heading to the net. He got behind the defense and near Shesterkin, but the Rangers defensemen took him out of the play by stepping in front of him.

Malkin and Heinen had more offensive zone chances without Kapanen touching the puck or being involved. When Malkin had the puck, Kapanen could have popped out to the slot, or fought for front position, bumped Shesterkin. Anything.

9:45: Three on two offensive rush. Malkin dished to Heinen on the right-wing for a good one-timer. The Rangers transitioned three-on-three. Kapanen trailed as the fourth Penguin. It seemed he could have taken one more step and disrupted the rush or taken the puck. Perhaps call a switch so one forward could confront the rush.

13:50: Another rush, another pull-up. This time he got the puck to the defensemen at the top of the zone for a good look. However, he lost the subsequent puck battle.

15:30: Another offensive zone possession, and Malkin and Heinen worked with the defensemen to keep the puck. Kapanen did not get a touch. Nor was he involved in the puck support or open.

 

3rd Period: 

4:00:  Kasperi Kapanen had a touch at the top of the zone. The Penguins cycled up high–dangerously. Nothing came of it, either way.

Kapanen was again caught in the middle of the offensive zone. Not quite at the net, not open, and not fighting for space either way. As Malkin again had the puck on the mid-wall and lower, Kapanen had a chance to pop open but did not. He blended into the background.

6:10: Kapanen joined the battle deep in the offensive zone, in the right-wing corner. The Penguins won the battle, and Malkin took it to the net, unimpeded. He nearly beat Shesterkin with a deke.

10:20: Malkin and Heinen again played with the puck, without Kapanen being a factor. No touches, again.

16:00 In the defensive zone, Kapanen simply deflected the puck back to center ice, which became the Rangers’ possession. Not quite a turnover, but not doing much with the puck, either. It seemed like a lazy play.

 

Conclusion:

I had a little help from a trusted hockey eye in the press box. The inescapable conclusion is that Kapanen is not differentiating himself from the game. He’s not jumping to the open spots and forcing defensemen to cover him. Kapanen is going to the net and going to the slot, but not with conviction and not getting open.

He’s just…there.

He’s letting the opponents take him out of the game without much pushback. There’s no physicality in his game. He could have finished a few checks or created some thumps on the end walls but did neither.

In short, he’s just sort of existing right now, which is not the dynamic player who created offensive and excitement last season. It was hard to watch. Kapanen has a lot more to give, but his game lacks purpose or passion at the moment.

 

OR:

 

Slumping Kapanen skates on 4th line for only part of Penguins’ practice Thursday

A lot has happened since Jan. 23. One thing that has not, though, is a goal by Kasperi Kapanen.

 

It’s appearing the Pittsburgh Penguins, perhaps, are running out of patience with their talented and capricious right wing.

 

Kapanen was rotating in as a part-time fourth-line wing during Thursday’s practice at PPG Paints Arena. That would indicate – at best – a demotion from his usual spot alongside No. 2 center Malkin, or – at worst – Kapanen could be watching Friday’s game as a healthy scratch.

 

Coach Mike Sullivan is loathe to comment on lineup composition before games, so nothing is official about Kapanen’s status for Friday’s home game against Vegas. But Sullivan after Thursday’s practice did speak in more general terms about his relationship with Kapanen and about methods for helping jumpstart struggling players.

 

“The decisions we’re trying to make as a coaching staff is not about whether we like somebody or we do not like somebody or we’re mad at somebody or not mad at somebody,” Sullivan said. “That, for me, does not even enter into the equation. We are trying to make decisions that give us the best chance to win, and we’re trying to help all our players maximize their potential.

 

“As far as what our expectation is and how ‘Kappy’ can help himself moving forward – and ‘Kappy’ and I have had a number of conversations about this – is trying to play the game the right way and just immersing himself in staying in the moment and playing the game the right way. ”

Kapanen’s 17-game goal drought is the longest of his career. He has only two assists in that time since a third-period goal Jan. 23 in a victory against Winnipeg.

 

Kapanen has been held without a goal in 50 of the 57 games he has played this season. He has not posted a point in 38 of those 57 games.

The advanced metrics paint a slightly less-damning picture: Kapanen ranks right in the middle of the 15 Penguins forwards who have played at least 100 minutes at 5-on-5 this season in percentage of goals for vs. against when he’s on the ice (54.0%).

 

He’s 10th among those 15 in shots on goal percentage and seventh in attempted shots percentage.

 

“He has so many abilities that make him so dangerous, and I’m sure that as somebody that cares as much as he does, it’s frustrating to be going through a scoring difficulty like he is,” defender Mike Matheson said.

 

“But you watch him backchecking and forechecking and using his speed in different ways, you can tell that even though that area of his game is not going as well as he’d like it to, he’s trying to find ways to have an impact on the game and knows that the rest will come. He’s such a good player that he’s bound to at some point. ”

 

That’s surely part of the reason Sullivan continually has re-inserted Kapanen on the second line despite myriad demotions down the lineup and / or benching. The latest was Tuesday, when Sullivan deployed Kapanen for just two third-period shifts during a loss to Florida.

Will Kapanen play at all against Vegas?

 

Thursday, Zach Aston-Reese took the first rep at right wing in line rushes with the fourth unit that also included Teddy Blueger and Brian Boyle.

The captain took Aston-Reese’s place at times, but Aston-Reese took more rushes. In the past, when 13 forwards were healthy, it was Boyle who typically was scratched.

 

It’s enough circumstantial evidence pointing to Kapanen as the odd man out Friday. Sullivan, of course, would not commit to that. He did, though, say that among the most rewarding-yet-difficult aspects of coaching is finding the best way to reach a struggling player.

“I think it just boils down to relationships that you build with your players over the course of time,” Sullivan said. “You’re trying to help players through some of the ups and downs. Sometimes players need words of encouragement. Sometimes tough love is helpful to a player. As a coach. We’re trying to do our very best to help these guys and give them what we think they need at a particular time.

 

“At the same time, performance matters in all these instances. So we are trying to make decisions with respect to lines and combinations and things of that nature that gives the team the best chance to win. We are trying to balance those things. ”

 

AND THEN:

 

Penguins' Kasperi Kapanen: Healthy scratch Friday

By RotoWire Staff

 

Mar 11, 2022 

Kapanen is a healthy scratch against Vegas on Friday.

Kapanen has just two assists with a minus-6 rating over the last 17 games. The 25-year-old winger is shooting a career-low 8.9 percent and has slowly seen his playing time drop as the season progresses. Valtteri Puustinen will make his NHL debut on Pittsburgh's third line Friday.

 

 

 

My point is, if he can't make a go of it with Malkin of all players, how in the hell is he going to find regular continued success here?

He won't. He's not consistent enough. And yeah, he has speed but skating fast means nothing if you can't utilize that effectively for your line mates.

Ask Justin Bailey.

To Kap's credit he does have a history of scoring goals.

And maybe he needs a change of scenery to start doing that again.

I just hope its not here and partially at the expense of a Garland or Boeser.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 13, 2022 by RWJC

[aGENT]

13 minutes ago, RWJC said:

No man, I said depth chart.

Meaning, at the moment, he's not guaranteed to even be rostered.

Besides, Hoglander is a sophomore.

Kapanen is working on his 7th season in the NHL.

 

This is but from one game, admittedly, but here (I can locate you other analysis if you wish):  

Kasperi Kapanen Floating Away; Shift-by-Shift Diary of Struggling Winger

February 22, 2022

 

So, just how bad is it? Pittsburgh Penguins winger Kasperi Kapanen hasn’t scored or been close in 12 games.

On Saturday afternoon, Penguins head coach Mike Sullivan abandoned his reconfigured lines and returned to what looked best on paper; Kapanen beside Evgeni Malkin and Danton Heinen. It should be an offensive weapon.

However, after a full game of intense analysis and watching every stride, we can offer some insights to the burning question, “what is wrong with Kasperi Kapanen.”

 

The answers are surprising for a player who has a 20-goal season on his resume and who torched NHL defensemen last season with Evgeni Malkin.

That player surely doesn’t exist in the present. After watching Kapanen play just over 12 minutes on Saturday and attempt ZERO shots despite Evgeni Malkin playing well, it’s clear the Penguins may need to serve some press box nachos. The conclusion is at the end if you want to skim the gory details and get the good stuff.

“You could probably imagine where he’s at, as far as his own personal headspace. You know, these guys are great athletes, and they care a lot, and they pride themselves in what they do, but they’re also human beings,” head coach Mike Sullivan said on Thursday. “And when things don’t go the right way, they go through ups and downs with respect to their self-confidence, just like every other person in the world. Kappy is a guy that cares a lot about his own game. He cares a lot about the Penguins, and we’re just trying to help them through the process.

Just trying to get him to simplify his game, shoot the puck more, go to the net. Do things that take some of the thinking out of it and maybe take some of the mindset of worrying about scoring and just focusing on playing the game the right way.”

That didn’t happen on Saturday.

 

1st period:

4:20: Kaperi Kapanen didn’t get his first shift until four minutes into the game due to a Rangers PP. In the defensive zone, tipped the puck off the wall out to center. He got on the forecheck and applied soft pressure to Rangers defenseman Jacob Trouba; he was maybe a step slow on the forecheck, but he created an errant pass. Nothing else came of it.

5:50: Kapanen got back in a defensive position. However, he didn’t work very hard to defend. He flowed to the middle as the play went to the far side, but he didn’t grab a man when the play came back at him. The Pittsburgh Penguins yielded a high danger scoring chance right in front of Kapanen.

8:00 — The Penguins had an offensive opportunity after a Rangers icing call: an offensive zone faceoff. However, nothing much came of it. Kapanen sort of floated through the shift, neither making himself readily available nor forcing any issues. New York had a long shot on goal at the end of the shift, and that was that.

10:51: Nothing much to it. Tripped at center. Tipped the puck forward. Got back in defensive position.

14:30: Power play. Hung out at the top of the zone. No significant touches.

16:40: Offensive zone faceoff. Kapanen forechecked, and there was a loose puck below the goal line. He and Danton Heinen lost the battle, and the Rangers transitioned with possession.

19:40: There wasn’t much time left in the period, but Kapanen raced to the end wall after a puck. The Penguins had possession as a scrum broke out at the buzzer. Everyone grabbed someone. Malkin, Kris Letang and Danton Heinen were in the middle of the action. Brian Dumoulin was on the bottom of the pile. Kapanen glided over without getting involved.

 

2nd Period:

2:10: A looping shift in the offensive zone. Kasperi Kapanen got the puck on the rush, pulled up on the mid-wall, and tried to chip it lower. He could have taken it low, followed his own chip, or waited for a trailer. Wasted touch.

Kapanen was skipped on the next shift as Guentzel and Crosby double shifted to play with Malkin. The line had no less than three crowd-engaging scoring chances. They were buzzing.

7:20: The Pittsburgh Penguins had offensive zone possession. Kapanen was caught in the slot, not available to his teammates, but not creating any pressure either. He floated to the top of the zone before heading to the net. He got behind the defense and near Shesterkin, but the Rangers defensemen took him out of the play by stepping in front of him.

Malkin and Heinen had more offensive zone chances without Kapanen touching the puck or being involved. When Malkin had the puck, Kapanen could have popped out to the slot, or fought for front position, bumped Shesterkin. Anything.

9:45: Three on two offensive rush. Malkin dished to Heinen on the right-wing for a good one-timer. The Rangers transitioned three-on-three. Kapanen trailed as the fourth Penguin. It seemed he could have taken one more step and disrupted the rush or taken the puck. Perhaps call a switch so one forward could confront the rush.

13:50: Another rush, another pull-up. This time he got the puck to the defensemen at the top of the zone for a good look. However, he lost the subsequent puck battle.

15:30: Another offensive zone possession, and Malkin and Heinen worked with the defensemen to keep the puck. Kapanen did not get a touch. Nor was he involved in the puck support or open.

 

3rd Period: 

4:00:  Kasperi Kapanen had a touch at the top of the zone. The Penguins cycled up high–dangerously. Nothing came of it, either way.

Kapanen was again caught in the middle of the offensive zone. Not quite at the net, not open, and not fighting for space either way. As Malkin again had the puck on the mid-wall and lower, Kapanen had a chance to pop open but did not. He blended into the background.

6:10: Kapanen joined the battle deep in the offensive zone, in the right-wing corner. The Penguins won the battle, and Malkin took it to the net, unimpeded. He nearly beat Shesterkin with a deke.

10:20: Malkin and Heinen again played with the puck, without Kapanen being a factor. No touches, again.

16:00 In the defensive zone, Kapanen simply deflected the puck back to center ice, which became the Rangers’ possession. Not quite a turnover, but not doing much with the puck, either. It seemed like a lazy play.

 

Conclusion:

I had a little help from a trusted hockey eye in the press box. The inescapable conclusion is that Kapanen is not differentiating himself from the game. He’s not jumping to the open spots and forcing defensemen to cover him. Kapanen is going to the net and going to the slot, but not with conviction and not getting open.

He’s just…there.

He’s letting the opponents take him out of the game without much pushback. There’s no physicality in his game. He could have finished a few checks or created some thumps on the end walls but did neither.

In short, he’s just sort of existing right now, which is not the dynamic player who created offensive and excitement last season. It was hard to watch. Kapanen has a lot more to give, but his game lacks purpose or passion at the moment.

 

OR:

 

Penguins' Kasperi Kapanen: Healthy scratch Friday

By RotoWire Staff

 

Mar 11, 2022 at 6:58 pm ET1 min read

Kapanen is a healthy scratch against Vegas on Friday.

Kapanen has just two assists with a minus-6 rating over the last 17 games. The 25-year-old winger is shooting a career-low 8.9 percent and has slowly seen his playing time drop as the season progresses. Valtteri Puustinen will make his NHL debut on Pittsburgh's third line Friday.

 

 

 

 

Yeah, clearly in his own head, and could maybe use a change of scenery. Still nothing like Chiasson.

[RWJC]

19 minutes ago, aGENT said:

Yeah, clearly in his own head, and could maybe use a change of scenery. Still nothing like Chiasson.

ok sure but my point is they both are awfully close to riding pine at the moment.

Brucethereitis shortens the bench and Chiasson sits.

Kapanen isn't even getting out of the press box.

Edited March 13, 2022 by RWJC

[wildcam]

5 hours ago, RWJC said:

Likely Garland.

 

if we’re going to pull the trigger on that though it better be Marino +.

 

I’d be satisfied with something like:

Garland, Poolman, 3rd

for

Marino, Poulin 

 

but will likely be something like:

Garland, 3rd

for

Marino, Kapanen 

Marino 24, RD, 6'1, 195 lbs - 5 X 4.4 million--- Garland 25  4 X 4.9 million--- even trade maybe Pittsburgh adds 4th rounder

[RWJC]

6 minutes ago, wildcam said:

Marino 24, RD, 6'1, 195 lbs - 5 X 4.4 million--- Garland 25  4 X 4.9 million--- even trade maybe Pittsburgh adds 4th rounder

yeah, consensus seems to be so.

i like Marino, just not at too much a cost, but given what he is and age, it's probably a good fit for the Nux.

sounds neanderthalic, but I'm really hoping we pick up someone a little beefier.

Marino is roughly the same stature as EP (EP is 6'2", 176lbs / Marino 6'1", 181lbs)

If we're planning on pairing him with Hughes, that's one of the smallest and lightest pairings in the NHL. Worries me a bit, but size doesn't equate to ability and Marino can play D, so...

[Nave]

I'd like Marino on the Canucks, but I hate the deals being proposed for him. 

[Tinky-Winky]

marino not bad, would be a improvement, just depends what pitts want