Alflives Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: So a team who ices a maybe 40m dollar roster while the other half is all artificial caphits essentially with zero superstars and maybe 1 star... How is this team 3 points behind us. We have 90m worth of players who played this year lol. You can't use "we didn't have demko" excuse here The Benning Effect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: So a team who ices a maybe 40m dollar roster while the other half is all artificial caphits essentially with zero superstars and maybe 1 star... How is this team 3 points behind us. We have 90m worth of players who played this year lol. You can't use "we didn't have demko" excuse here Good question for Arizona, not us. It's not like we are 32nd and 31st. San Jose, St Louis, Philly, Montreal are all spending to the cap as well. For us, Demko and goaltending is actually the most simple answer. It's not an excuse, it's main the reason why we sucked so bad this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Chuck Fletcher is fired as GM of the Flyers. Daniel Briere is interm GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 40 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: Good question for Arizona, not us. It's not like we are 32nd and 31st. San Jose, St Louis, Philly, Montreal are all spending to the cap as well. For us, Demko and goaltending is actually the most simple answer. It's not an excuse, it's main the reason why we sucked so bad this year. This is not a recipe for a cup contender. Again a team with a top 10 player in EP. A top 10 dman in Hughes. A rookie on pace for 40g and PPG... A 2C on pace for PPG... Demko has played like 20 games this year. It's March 10th and they are 3 points back with just a star winger in Keller lol. I can see this being a playoff contender next year as with fulltime demko and a fixed PK we win 10 more games than we have lost this year and thats good enough for playoff contender pace.... but we are soooo far away from a cup contender it's not even funny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: This is not a recipe for a cup contender. Again a team with a top 10 player in EP. A top 10 dman in Hughes. A rookie on pace for 40g and PPG... A 2C on pace for PPG... Demko has played like 20 games this year. It's March 10th and they are 3 points back with just a star winger in Keller lol. I can see this being a playoff contender next year as with fulltime demko and a fixed PK we win 10 more games than we have lost this year and thats good enough for playoff contender pace.... but we are soooo far away from a cup contender it's not even funny IMHAO we aren't that far off from Cup contender. We have the key core in place, as you pointed out. Except I'd add Hronek as a key core guy too. He's going to anchor our 2nd D pairing and play the most important shifts with Hughes, when needed. Where we are lacking is at 3C, a couple stout D, and some other supporting roles. These can be collected via minor trades, free agent signings, or filled from within. The harder part was building a key core that meshes well together. We have that now. Summer moves will happen. OEL will be bought out. Myers, Boeser, Garland will all be traded. Big changes in the supporting cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: @-Vintage Canuck-Did the Flyers fire their GM? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: This is not a recipe for a cup contender. Again a team with a top 10 player in EP. A top 10 dman in Hughes. A rookie on pace for 40g and PPG... A 2C on pace for PPG... Demko has played like 20 games this year. It's March 10th and they are 3 points back with just a star winger in Keller lol. I can see this being a playoff contender next year as with fulltime demko and a fixed PK we win 10 more games than we have lost this year and thats good enough for playoff contender pace.... but we are soooo far away from a cup contender it's not even funny We definitely have to add two more good d-men. Hronek was one, hopefully. We also need a defensive-minded righty center. So we're definitely short a few pieces and we have to first be a playoff team before we're a Cup contender. Don't know if any teams that get to skip the process of losing in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Mind Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 26 minutes ago, Mustard Tiger said: This is not a recipe for a cup contender. Again a team with a top 10 player in EP. A top 10 dman in Hughes. A rookie on pace for 40g and PPG... A 2C on pace for PPG... Demko has played like 20 games this year. It's March 10th and they are 3 points back with just a star winger in Keller lol. I can see this being a playoff contender next year as with fulltime demko and a fixed PK we win 10 more games than we have lost this year and thats good enough for playoff contender pace.... but we are soooo far away from a cup contender it's not even funny On top of that, the Coyotes were missing and then benched one of their best players in Chychrun for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRookieFan Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 58 minutes ago, Alflives said: IMHAO we aren't that far off from Cup contender. We have the key core in place, as you pointed out. Except I'd add Hronek as a key core guy too. He's going to anchor our 2nd D pairing and play the most important shifts with Hughes, when needed. Where we are lacking is at 3C, a couple stout D, and some other supporting roles. These can be collected via minor trades, free agent signings, or filled from within. The harder part was building a key core that meshes well together. We have that now. Summer moves will happen. OEL will be bought out. Myers, Boeser, Garland will all be traded. Big changes in the supporting cast. There is no way all the things you suggested will happen, OEL bought out is not a possibility due to financial issues. I believe a maximum of TWO of these 3 players will be delt: Myers, Boeser and Garland. So out of the 4 big contracts I am happy if they move 2 out of the 4, they won't be able to move any more than that unfortunately. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeNiro Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 10 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Update on what? Did he have his kid yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustard Tiger Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Alflives said: IMHAO we aren't that far off from Cup contender. We have the key core in place, as you pointed out. Except I'd add Hronek as a key core guy too. He's going to anchor our 2nd D pairing and play the most important shifts with Hughes, when needed. Where we are lacking is at 3C, a couple stout D, and some other supporting roles. These can be collected via minor trades, free agent signings, or filled from within. The harder part was building a key core that meshes well together. We have that now. Summer moves will happen. OEL will be bought out. Myers, Boeser, Garland will all be traded. Big changes in the supporting cast. The key factor everyone seems to leave out is the 31 other teams. Next season there is 26 teams trying to make the playoffs. 10 or so spots are locks and maybe 6 are up for grabs as the usual teams should be expected to make it. So who are we passing exactly? Who is going to magically fall off a cliff? Whos progression is going to come to a hault? As it sits right now we have: Boeser 6.65 Garland 4.95 OEL 7.2 Myers 6.0 Poolman 2.5 Pears 3.25 ( I think lol ) 1/3rd of the cap isn't just wasted, Its invested into players who bring a negative impact to the team. The AHLers who can understand a basic system are proving that. This is unique to the Canucks, there is not another team at our level with our goals who has this sort of horrible cap outlook. We can pretend all day it's easy to move all that money out.... But at what cost? More futures? Well that kind of eats away at any sustained success. Buyouts? Nice so that overlaps with the hronek and EP new contracts. There is no path to contender. This is why our management only says playoffs. We have the stars who can carry and go on a run once in the show for sure.... Cant count out high end skill. But what type of plan is that? "Anything can happen once you get in". This is the hill us and the flyers die on... We see the results since our existence. Canucks = playoff team + decently high scoring team means guys are getting paid as well. How is that going to help any long term success when we have no pipeline to replace guys? I'm going to cheer regardless and i hope we do make the playoffs next year as we all really need it still. Also I'm not responding to anyone else's quotes from earlier as I'm already sick of talking about pure hypothetical scenarios so just pretend I also quoted you other fellas lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EoH Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 What kind of car did Karlsson get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, EoH said: What kind of car did Karlsson get? Definitely a Saab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlwaysACanuckFan Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: Update on what? Did he have his kid yet? Nah, he just got tired of the Leafs and wait until offseason to re sign with Canucks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 I would laugh so hard if Anaheim beats Calgary. My schadenfreude is off the charts with Calgary this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strawbone Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 18 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I would laugh so hard if Anaheim beats Calgary. My schadenfreude is off the charts with Calgary this year. Yeah they are not making the playoffs this year. Bwhahahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckRookieFan Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 43 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: I would laugh so hard if Anaheim beats Calgary. My schadenfreude is off the charts with Calgary this year. Calgary won't let that happen don't kid your self. They are pushing for a playoff spot and have an elite core of forwards, you really think Anahiem is going to beat them when the bookies in Vegas have Calgary at -300? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Flames lose and Marky has a sub .900 SV% right after TSN posts an article about how he’s turning his game around at the perfect time… Good night for the tank. Ducks get the win and Chicago picks up a point! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mordekai Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Strawbone said: Yeah they are not making the playoffs this year. Bwhahahaha! One of media members said flames were elite lol and look what we have here now i rather have Canucks team over overpaid and aging flames core 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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