HKSR Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 Trade #1 To VAN: Marcus Pettersson To PIT: Conor Garland Jack Rathbone Penguins have POJ and Dumoulin ready to play top 4 LHD. Their RHD is set with Letang and Petry. There was smoke around Pettersson this past season, and after missing the playoffs for the 1st time in years, the Penguins are ready to make some bigger splashes. Garland gives them a real sparkplug up front. Playing with somebody like Malkin could see Garland hitting the 50 to 60 point totals again. Rathbone gets a fresh start with a very reputable franchise. Trade #2 To VAN: Colton Sissons To NAS: Nils Hoglander 3rd Round Pick Sounds like NAS wants to re-align their talent with guys in their mid to early 20s. Sissons is 29 now and with the emergence of Glass and Novak, Sissons becomes expendable. They acquire a very good prospect in Hoglander and more draft capital. Canucks get a very good 3C locked in for a few more years at a good cap hit. Trade #3 To VAN 5th Round Pick To 3rd Party (50% retention) 3rd Round Pick To COL Tyler Myers Really? Myers to COL? Yup. Erik Johnson is done there. What the Avs need is another big, solid, veteran on the 3rd pair. Canucks pay a 3rd round pick to the 3rd party team to retain 50%, but regain a 5th round pick. Would be great to bring Schenn back, but if not, I think we need Bear back. Beauviller-Petey-Kuzmenko Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser Podkolzin-Sissons-Mcdonough? PDG-Aman-Joshua Hughes-Bear or Schenn Pettersson-Hronek OEL-Juulsen/Burroughs/Johansson If Pearson and/or Poolman should return mid-season, we would have enough cap space to bring them both back into the mix. Would be a really nice boost. I'd actually want to see them both back if it meant we could ice a roster like this: Beauviller-Petey-Kuzmenko Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser Pearson-Sissons-Podkolzin Mcdonough/PDG-Aman-Joshua Hughes-Bear/Schenn Pettersson-Hronek OEL-Poolman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 If the Pens want Garland I'd happily take Rutta back (cup champ, RHD with size [6'2", 204 lbs.] and only 2 years * $2.75 million per). If Hoglander wants out for the 2nd deal I would do it. Same with the 3rd deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) I'd do trade #1, probably wouldn't do #2. I question Myers to Colorado though, Colorado has better quality RD and could likely find a bottom pairing guy with size for cheaper than what Myers would cost. Their biggest need is finding a 2C if Compher elects to explore UFA. Newhook may eventually be that guy but I don't think he's there yet. This trade seems like more of a deal that helps us more than it helps them, even at 50%. Colorado also won't have Landeskog at all next season, if they're going to allocate resources anywhere it's almost certainly going to be their top six imo. Edited June 12, 2023 by Coconuts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 1 hour ago, HKSR said: Trade #1 To VAN: Marcus Pettersson To PIT: Conor Garland Jack Rathbone Penguins have POJ and Dumoulin ready to play top 4 LHD. Their RHD is set with Letang and Petry. There was smoke around Pettersson this past season, and after missing the playoffs for the 1st time in years, the Penguins are ready to make some bigger splashes. Garland gives them a real sparkplug up front. Playing with somebody like Malkin could see Garland hitting the 50 to 60 point totals again. Rathbone gets a fresh start with a very reputable franchise. Trade #2 To VAN: Colton Sissons To NAS: Nils Hoglander 3rd Round Pick Sounds like NAS wants to re-align their talent with guys in their mid to early 20s. Sissons is 29 now and with the emergence of Glass and Novak, Sissons becomes expendable. They acquire a very good prospect in Hoglander and more draft capital. Canucks get a very good 3C locked in for a few more years at a good cap hit. Trade #3 To VAN 5th Round Pick To 3rd Party (50% retention) 3rd Round Pick To COL Tyler Myers Really? Myers to COL? Yup. Erik Johnson is done there. What the Avs need is another big, solid, veteran on the 3rd pair. Canucks pay a 3rd round pick to the 3rd party team to retain 50%, but regain a 5th round pick. Would be great to bring Schenn back, but if not, I think we need Bear back. Beauviller-Petey-Kuzmenko Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser Podkolzin-Sissons-Mcdonough? PDG-Aman-Joshua Hughes-Bear or Schenn Pettersson-Hronek OEL-Juulsen/Burroughs/Johansson If Pearson and/or Poolman should return mid-season, we would have enough cap space to bring them both back into the mix. Would be a really nice boost. I'd actually want to see them both back if it meant we could ice a roster like this: Beauviller-Petey-Kuzmenko Mikheyev-Miller-Boeser Pearson-Sissons-Podkolzin Mcdonough/PDG-Aman-Joshua Hughes-Bear/Schenn Pettersson-Hronek OEL-Poolman Adding Poolman in would be a really nice boost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 (edited) Not entirely sure why you think their RD is set. Petry is washed, Letang has two maybe three years left and Dumoulin was a huge liability for them this year who’s also a pending UFA. Almost no chance they move Pettersson unless it’s for that rumoured Miller deal that fell through. Edited June 12, 2023 by Pears Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCE Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 How about Myers for Rutta we gain 3.25 mil in cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 12, 2023 Share Posted June 12, 2023 What about Garland and Rathbone for Erik Cernak instead. Pettersson is rangy and lanky, but Cernak has the added element of being a tank to his offensive capability and skating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 I've been big on Marcus Pettersson lately but he is a top pairing shutdown 27 year old defenceman on a 4M cap hit - Garland is a cap dump. If we want him he's going to cost Boeser + Rathbone IMO at the very least. Pittsburgh do have POJ coming through but they're desperate and want to win now, and get a lot worse on defence by losing Pettersson. Maybe if they make a deal with us involving Boeser and Petey 3.0, they go out and sign Graves to fill the hole and it's not as big a problem for them? He plays big minutes, is a great skater and 2-way guy but really excels defensively - the perfect top-4 LD for this team to play with Hronek to unlock him offensively. We'd have to bury OEL and Myers on our bottom pairing but I don't mind having a silly 13M bottom pairing if you have an 8M top pairing of Pettersson-Hronek and suddenly Hughes has a lot less defensive responsibilities. We could play any chum with Hughes on the 2nd pairing and basically treat Quinn as a 4th forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 7 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: I've been big on Marcus Pettersson lately but he is a top pairing shutdown 27 year old defenceman on a 4M cap hit - Garland is a cap dump. If we want him he's going to cost Boeser + Rathbone IMO at the very least. Pittsburgh do have POJ coming through but they're desperate and want to win now, and get a lot worse on defence by losing Pettersson. Maybe if they make a deal with us involving Boeser and Petey 3.0, they go out and sign Graves to fill the hole and it's not as big a problem for them? He plays big minutes, is a great skater and 2-way guy but really excels defensively - the perfect top-4 LD for this team to play with Hronek to unlock him offensively. We'd have to bury OEL and Myers on our bottom pairing but I don't mind having a silly 13M bottom pairing if you have an 8M top pairing of Pettersson-Hronek and suddenly Hughes has a lot less defensive responsibilities. We could play any chum with Hughes on the 2nd pairing and basically treat Quinn as a 4th forward. I'd be happy with that. Just wouldn't think PIT would wanna take on Boeser's cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 27 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'd be happy with that. Just wouldn't think PIT would wanna take on Boeser's cap hit. What if we ate up 1-1.25M of it? I think they'd bite. They have a surprising amount of cap space, 20M, with about half a crop of forwards to sign, a goalie and maybe a depth defenceman. They could easily make it work, especially with a couple of depth UFA signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKSR Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share Posted June 13, 2023 1 minute ago, DownUndaCanuck said: What if we ate up 1-1.25M of it? I think they'd bite. They have a surprising amount of cap space, 20M, with about half a crop of forwards to sign, a goalie and maybe a depth defenceman. They could easily make it work, especially with a couple of depth UFA signings. I'd be ok with that. Doesn't really save us any cap though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 13, 2023 Share Posted June 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, HKSR said: I'd be ok with that. Doesn't really save us any cap though. Realistically we'd have to look elsewhere for that. I'd honestly be happy tying our 3rd to Garland to get rid of him and get nothing back. 5M in cap space we could sign a 3C like Kampf or Acciari for 2M and the last 3M goes to everyone's raises. So essentially, this off-season: IN: Pettersson, Kampf OUT: Boeser, Garland, 3rd, Rathbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 On 6/13/2023 at 9:20 AM, DownUndaCanuck said: Realistically we'd have to look elsewhere for that. I'd honestly be happy tying our 3rd to Garland to get rid of him and get nothing back. 5M in cap space we could sign a 3C like Kampf or Acciari for 2M and the last 3M goes to everyone's raises. So essentially, this off-season: IN: Pettersson, Kampf OUT: Boeser, Garland, 3rd, Rathbone You are so off on your Garland evaluation. Compare him to Anasthasiou who just got 4.25 mil/year. Garland is not a "cap dump". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, VancouverHabitant said: You are so off on your Garland evaluation. Compare him to Anasthasiou who just got 4.25 mil/year. Garland is not a "cap dump". I sure hope you’re right and we can move off Garland’s whole cap. The Benning stain has to be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 15, 2023 Share Posted June 15, 2023 17 hours ago, VancouverHabitant said: You are so off on your Garland evaluation. Compare him to Anasthasiou who just got 4.25 mil/year. Garland is not a "cap dump". AA at 4.25M is a joke and I think the whole league knows it. From a lot of the reports that have come it out it sounds like we'd have to add to get rid of Garland. I know he's got a lot of value and still some potential, but if he was an easy piece to move for an asset I think it would have happened by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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