RWJC Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: Part of the big reason why the team failed so much. OEL was overplayed and not only was incapable of top 4 minutes, he showed that he is not even worthy to be in this league (same with Myers) He belongs in the league still. Just at a far lower salary and less responsibility. Dude’s been playing injured during a fair portion of his tenure with the club. He’s a bit beat up, imho. He’ll be a great addition for a playoff contender. So much experience and poise, not to mention he’ll be so hungry to chase a cup. He’s still a solid veteran Dman. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Part of the big reason why the team failed so much. OEL was overplayed and not only was incapable of top 4 minutes, he showed that he is not even worthy to be in this league (same with Myers) Both him and myers over played to the point of exhaustion. adding hronek should help limit Myers minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, RWJC said: He belongs in the league still. Just at a far lower salary and less responsibility. Dude’s been playing injured during a fair portion of his tenure with the club. He’s a bit beat up, imho. He’ll be a great addition for a playoff contender. So much experience and poise, not to mention he’ll be so hungry to chase a cup. He’s still a solid veteran Dman. Disagree. OEL and Myers were statistically the worst pairing in the entire NHL. OEL is terrible and not on any contending team’s radar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, chon derry said: Both him and myers over played to the point of exhaustion. adding hronek should help limit Myers minutes. Doubt that. If anyone played to exhaustion, that was Quinn Hughes 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Disagree. OEL and Myers were statistically the worst pairing in the entire NHL. OEL is terrible and not on any contending team’s radar Well one year prove yourself contract he might get a look by more then we think. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Disagree. OEL and Myers were statistically the worst pairing in the entire NHL. OEL is terrible and not on any contending team’s radar OELs numbers improved dramatically when paired with anyone except Myers 100% guarantee he’s gonna play like a 4m dollar defenseman wherever he signs next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Doubt that. If anyone played to exhaustion, that was Quinn Hughes Larger players tire out quickly especially when their being deployed in all situations. when u start seeing both Myers and OEL literally swimming on the ice trying to regain position , you gotta know there both being over utilized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Korea Bob.Loblaw Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 9 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: OELs numbers improved dramatically when paired with anyone except Myers 100% guarantee he’s gonna play like a 4m dollar defenseman wherever he signs next Not a chance in hell. Literally zero. 5 hours ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Incidentally, Erik Karlsson is 32 years old. But let's get one thing out of the way: his resurgence is not as groundbreaking as people make it out to be. His underlying offense didn't suddenly change awaken overnight. He just started scoring more this year. The biggest issue with him in San Jose is that he's getting paid way too much. Hopefully this helps people come to terms with the fact that Karlsson was always a fantastic offensive D-man even before this year. Compare this to OEL's "resurgence": Bless his soul for trying, but OEL was already a trash player when he got traded to us. It didn't make any sense to trade up for one of the worst contracts in the league. This past season was him playing the exact same way he performed in Arizona: 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RWJC Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 15 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Disagree. OEL and Myers were statistically the worst pairing in the entire NHL. OEL is terrible and not on any contending team’s radar Gentleman’s bet that that’s exactly where he ends up; a contender? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Doubt that. If anyone played to exhaustion, that was Quinn Hughes Just now, chon derry said: Larger players tire out quickly especially when their being deployed in all situations. when u start seeing both Myers and OEL literally swimming on the ice trying to regain position , you gotta know there both being over utilized. And I’ll stand by my comment that hronek will alleviate Myers problems associated with to many minutes. Less minutes less responsibility I expect Myers to play better albeit less 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cripplereh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 I just think management has something up their sleeve. Maybe a couple players are ready or another trade will happen. Can't wait to see which direction they go. Am I the only one to miss OEL?? Haha j/k there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 2 hours ago, Odd. said: Looks like Boeser is going to stay a Canuck for at least another year. Currently as it stands: Kuzmenko/Pettersson/Beauvillier Mikheyev/Miller/Boeser Hoglander/_______/Garland Joshua/Aman/Podkolzin PDG Hughes/Juulsen? Wolanin/Hronek Hirose/Myers Woo Rathbone I hope we don’t sign any UFA’s unless they’re RFA’s that other team didn’t sign. If we can get someone like Trent Frederic, 25 y/o, on a solid 3 year contract, we can have him play as the 3C. We need to run it back for one more year with the same team. If we make the playoffs somehow, great, keep Myers and Beauvillier for a full season. If we are middle of the pack, trade them at the deadline, and call up some guys to fill those extra spots. If Boeser and Garland play a full season with top 6 minutes and perform well, they’ll be easier to trade next off season. Patience is something our franchise needs. Wait for opportunities to arrive. Agree whole heartedly with patience and striking when the opportunity arises. On Frederic I think he played mostly winger didn't he? His face-off % is only 33%. I think he only took 24 draws. I'd hope we can find a more natural Center. I like how he plays though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bob.Loblaw said: Not a chance in hell. Literally zero. @AnthonyG worked up the numbers, OEL was fine, was let down by goaltending and Myers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 18 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: OELs numbers improved dramatically when paired with anyone except Myers 100% guarantee he’s gonna play like a 4m dollar defenseman wherever he signs next If by “a 4m dollar defenseman”, you mean this guy: …Then yeah, maybe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 32 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Part of the big reason why the team failed so much. OEL was overplayed 21 minutes ago, grandmaster said: Disagree. OEL and Myers were statistically the worst pairing in the entire NHL. OEL is terrible and not on any contending team’s radar You literally admit in the first post, first paragraph second sentence which by the way you had right , and should have left it that. Lol and then you go off in another direction with your take only minutes apart lol ????? Which way is it? Lmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, chon derry said: You literally admit in the first post, first paragraph second sentence which by the way you had right , and should have left it that. Lol and then you go off in another direction with your take only minutes apart lol ????? Which way is it? Lmao My definition of an OEL overplay is playing just regular minutes. Nice try, lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 minute ago, grandmaster said: My definition of an OEL overplay is playing just regular minutes. Nice try, lol If both oel and Myers played regular minutes last season we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandmaster Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, chon derry said: If both oel and Myers played regular minutes last season we wouldn’t be having this conversation. Regular minutes in which regard? As a top 4, mid pair or bottom pair? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chon derry Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 Just now, grandmaster said: Regular minutes in which regard? As a top 4, mid pair or bottom pair? Playing ozone starts, playing dzone starts , every situation ! It explains both players being OVERPLAYED ! Hence both playing to the point of exhaustion. if you couldn’t see both players on their knees or flat on their stomachs then how would you explain that. Because when players flail like that it only stands to reason their tired IMO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted June 18, 2023 Share Posted June 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Alflives said: It’s called being a fan. We have a great young core. We just cut away a tumour. A couple smaller lumps need to go too. But we have great players to build around. Petey, Hughes, Hronek, Miller, Demko. It would be insanely stupid to sell off these great players and rebuild. How in the heck do we get guys as good as those five back again? I agree it would be impossibly hard to get players as good. I don't want to let those guys go either. Miller is the only one. I wouldn't mind if they traded him but I'm fine with him on the team too. I just want us to stop making impatient decisions that lower the quality of the team down the road and keep us from putting more quality in the line-up. I want to get back to winning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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