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#31 cIutch

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 07:55 PM

Wouldn't it be louder with more fans in an arena?

only time will tell
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 10:39 PM

I missed the memo that stated Vegas was a hockey hot bed. A population of just under 600 000 in the desert where people fly in to go to brothels is much better then putting a team in Hamilton (POP just over 500 000) where they had to stop selling season tickets so Joe public would have a chance to watch a game. But I forgot, Vegas is the 31st largest market in the US where nobody watches TV. As usual, for Bettmen to even consider this show's he is the biggest dink to ever be invovled in hockey.


The population of Las Vegas alone is just under 600,000. The population of the Metro area around and including Las Vegas is a little over 1.9 million people.

As someone who moved down here recently, you can generally drive to the strip from pretty much anywhere in the Metro area in about 25 - 30 minutes with much of the surrounding population working in support of the main strip hotels.

Considering the unemployment in this city, it could go either way as far as this coming together. If the city decides it makes sense as a job creation opportunity to jumpstart the economy again down here and put working businesses in the empty retail locations, it may work and happen!

As someone who hates driving 3 - 4 hours every month or two to see a hockey game, all I can say on the prospect of getting an NHL team into Vegas is "Whoooohoooooo"!!! :frantic:

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:29 PM

this is how hockey currently looks in Las Vegas:
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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:58 PM

Quebec, Hamilton, Seattle, Sasketchwan > Vegas

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Posted 15 July 2012 - 11:59 PM

Wrangler's had the fourth highest attendance in the ECHL playoffs, about 25% higher than the average. In the reg season they were around average.

I don't know, might be slightly better than Phoenix but not really an answer. I think Portland, Hamilton, Seattle or Quebec City are the best
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Posted 16 July 2012 - 11:02 AM

I think Vegas is a much better fit for basketball. That isn't to say they couldn't do both, but hockey would definitely play second fiddle, IMO...
Orland Kurtenbach and Dennis Kearns had just been torched 8-1 by the Habs, but they still took time to come out to meet us, some fellow BC boys who were playing hockey in Montreal. THAT"S what being a Canuck is!

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Posted 16 July 2012 - 07:47 PM

Personally, I think we should have a team in Alaska!

Just think then we could stand on the roof of the arena and wave to all the players in the KHL!!!

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 07:15 AM

Personally, I think we should have a team in Alaska!

Just think then we could stand on the roof of the arena and wave to all the players in the KHL!!!

:towel:


The team could hire that most famous "hockey mom" as a cheerleader, coffee bringer. But, she's already had her 15 minutes of fame.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:30 PM

Funny I saw a Canucks fan in Vegas last September, but Las Vegas is Las Vegas, I don't think it's that type of city that can support a franchise of any sport. But if I had to choose, I'd go with NBA/NFL.

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:40 PM

Would be sick to be able to plan Vegas trips when the Canucks are in town haha

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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:45 PM

i have always said a team in vegas could work, especially since the arena would probably house a casino attached to it, and probably a hotel as well (most likely sports/hockey themed)

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:39 AM

God I really hope this doesn't happen.
That team would have no genuine fan base, it would be nearly all suits and tourists filling the arena.
There are much more deserving cities.


Canadians are what's been keeping Vegas afloat the last few years. Although a Vegas team may not have a great number of local fans, I can certainly see that arena filled with genuine Canadian hockey fans. It doesn't matter why an arena is full as long as it is. I go to Vegas 3 times a year. Twice during the regular season and once during the playoffs. It would save renting a car and making the run to LaLa land to catch a game. I'd love to see an NHL team in Vegas. Likely be an automatic #2 on my favorite teams list.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 05:55 AM

Phoenix, part 2, no fan base, no revenue, unless propped up by the empty casinos. But, Gary Bettman is still in charge, last time I checked, so it must be on the next agenda.


Doesn't matter that Bettman is in charge. It's the owners that decide where franchises go. People really give Bettman credit for more power than he actually has.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:12 AM

I doubt a team in Vegas would need to worry much about ownership. Caesars Palace is owned by the Harah's group. They have:

Caesars Palace
Paris
Flamingo
Rio
Harrah's
Balley's
Imperial Palace
Planet Hollywood
Bills

And that's just in Vegas.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 09:51 AM

I think that if it's behind the Imperial Palace, then that's a really good spot for it. I was down there in June and it looked like renovations were happening at Imperial Palace or it was getting ready for it to be torn down. The arena will be beside a nice updated or new hotel.

Also, that is pretty much right across the street from the Bellagio, Mirage and Caesar's Palace and close enough in proximity to Treasure Island, Paris, Harrah's and the Venetian. It is a nice central location on the strip that would surely gather a lot of tourist attendance. The only challenge I see is garnering a following from the locals.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 11:35 AM

I think that if it's behind the Imperial Palace, then that's a really good spot for it. I was down there in June and it looked like renovations were happening at Imperial Palace or it was getting ready for it to be torn down. The arena will be beside a nice updated or new hotel.

Also, that is pretty much right across the street from the Bellagio, Mirage and Caesar's Palace and close enough in proximity to Treasure Island, Paris, Harrah's and the Venetian. It is a nice central location on the strip that would surely gather a lot of tourist attendance. The only challenge I see is garnering a following from the locals.


Imperial Palace is going through a complete overhaul. The Flamingo has also renovated their rooms and when I was there in June they said the casino was next.

As to local fans I'm sure there would be some. There's a lot of Europeans there and judging from name tags the majority of casino workers are not from Las Vegas. It would take years for them to get a solid local fan base but it would be filled from Canadian visitors having the chance to get lower bowl seats for the price of nose bleeds in Canada.

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Posted 18 July 2012 - 06:52 PM

Canadians are what's been keeping Vegas afloat the last few years. Although a Vegas team may not have a great number of local fans, I can certainly see that arena filled with genuine Canadian hockey fans. It doesn't matter why an arena is full as long as it is. I go to Vegas 3 times a year. Twice during the regular season and once during the playoffs. It would save renting a car and making the run to LaLa land to catch a game. I'd love to see an NHL team in Vegas. Likely be an automatic #2 on my favorite teams list.

i agree

i think it would work out alot better then some people think
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Posted 18 July 2012 - 07:26 PM

As much as it would be a good city to go to financially, the fan base does not appeal to me. As Jager said, the fanbase would be just tourists and executive suits.

I personally want to see Kansas City get a team

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 12:14 AM

I'm in Vegas all the time for work... Vegas is poor as dirt, if you leave the strip... Nobody has any money, and everyone works in hospitality or something similar... They aren't buying hockey tickets in that town. And in no way will they be able to have hotels purchase enough tickets to make the team profitable... No way... This would be a joke...

As for the NBA.... NBA all star weekend brought so much thuggery, that even vegas didn't want it back..

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:03 PM

One thing Las Vegas does well is marketing. I have no doubt that if the NHL did go to Las Vegas, there will be no problems filling the arena, even if some of the "fans" are casino comps and tourists. Las Vegas is a major destination for travelers from around the world and this could very well be an opportunity to introduce them to NHL style entertainment.

As for people still wanting Hamilton to get a franchise, there's still the problem of the Toronto Maple Leafs and Buffalo Sabres who will get in the way. Not only that, who would be it's owner? Balsillie? He's done with. RIM Blackberry has suffered great financial lost recently and his net worth is no where what it used to be. The only rich owner from the area who could is Michael Lee-Chin but he never he once talked about getting into the game.

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Posted 19 July 2012 - 01:09 PM

I'm in Vegas all the time for work... Vegas is poor as dirt, if you leave the strip... Nobody has any money, and everyone works in hospitality or something similar... They aren't buying hockey tickets in that town. And in no way will they be able to have hotels purchase enough tickets to make the team profitable... No way... This would be a joke...

As for the NBA.... NBA all star weekend brought so much thuggery, that even vegas didn't want it back..

the various casinos could purchase all the seaosn tickets to provide as comps, and besides, the team wouldn't need to sell out every night to remain solvent, it would most likely be owned by a hotel/casino, and would make the majority of it's money that way.




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