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#1 BZRK

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 06:55 PM

He would be the best fit for the 2nd line. He is big (6'5 205 lbs), is a great playmaker (17 goals and 47 assists last year), and can stand up for himself. The questions are, is Winnipeg willing to part with him? Is their need for defense strong enough for them to move him for defense? I think Winnipeg would like to see Edler going back.

Thoughts?
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:08 PM

I agree that Wheeler would be a great fit on the second line but the Jets would be asking too much.... i wouldn't trade Edler for Wheeler.

What about Raymond, Tanev, 2nd?

edit: now that i think about it we would have to offer more than that to get Wheeler

Edited by CanucksFanMike, 22 August 2012 - 09:08 PM.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

Yeah Edler for Wheeler is too much.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:18 PM

Wheeler was better than Kane last season (in my opinion anyways). They need more offense, Tanev and a 2nd (mentioned above) wouldn't be worth the downgrade to Raymond on offense.

Edler would definitely be overpayment though.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:21 PM

I agree that Wheeler would be a great fit on the second line but the Jets would be asking too much.... i wouldn't trade Edler for Wheeler.

What about Raymond, Tanev, 2nd?


Why would the Jets accept that?
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:23 PM

Why would the Jets accept that?


Kassian is right. They would never accept this pathetic offer.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:26 PM

Higgens,Tanev, 2nd

And talks get started
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:27 PM

Why would the Jets accept that?


They wont except that. Bad proposal.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:08 PM

Higgens,Tanev, 2nd

And talks get started

Maybe offer Hansen instead of Higgins? And add in Ballard as well?

To Vancouver: Blake Wheeler

To Winnipeg: Jannik Hansen + Chris Tanev + Keith Ballard + 2013 2nd

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:21 PM

I doubt Wheeler is even available. Be secure with our roster, it is one of the best:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Booth - Kesler - Higgins
Kassian - Lapiere - Hansen
Volpatti - Malholtra - Wiese
Ebbet

Hamhuis -Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Ballard - Tanev
Alberts, Connauton

Schneider
Luongo

Rookies such as Jensen, Connauton and Schroeder will also be knocking on the door.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:28 PM

Wheeler is the perfect player for our 2nd line. A big, fast, playmaking winger who finally hit his stride last season. The price may be too high to get him out of Winnipeg and I don't see the Jets parting ways with him anyways.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:42 PM

Maybe offer Hansen instead of Higgins? And add in Ballard as well?

To Vancouver: Blake Wheeler

To Winnipeg: Jannik Hansen + Chris Tanev + Keith Ballard + 2013 2nd

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Get outta here, Blake Wheeler will not be worth what the Jets will be asking for.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:45 PM

Get outta here, Blake Wheeler will not be worth what the Jets will be asking for.

We won't be getting him for our spare parts if that's what you're thinking. Tanev, Hansen and the 2nd would be appetizing to Chevaldayoff. And Ballard and Tanev will solidify Winnipeg's defense.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:19 PM

I always offersheet him in NHL 12 but winnipeg always matches. :mad:
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:34 PM

Burrows + Raymond would be the Jets asking price
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:28 PM

Thanks H88.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:39 PM

We won't be getting him for our spare parts if that's what you're thinking. Tanev, Hansen and the 2nd would be appetizing to Chevaldayoff. And Ballard and Tanev will solidify Winnipeg's defense.


That's why I said he won't be worth it because we would have to give up a lot.

Plus, our playmaking PWF will be Zack Kassian in about 2-3 years.
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:43 PM

That's why I said he won't be worth it because we would have to give up a lot.

Plus, our playmaking PWF will be Zack Kassian in about 2-3 years.


Kassian looks like more of a goalscorer in the nhl than a playmaker
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:10 PM

Come to think of it, many of the Winnipeg players would quite fit the mold that MG would want for the team, being young, rugged players with skill (Kane, Wheeler, By-fu-lu-gee-li-en, Ladd, Bogosian, plus complementary guys like Poni, Antropov and Olli Waffles).

That said, without a doubt he won't come cheap. He scored more than any player on our team not named "Sedin", plus he's finally fulfilling his upside and is still quite young. Burr or Booth as a starting piece with most likely a 1st seems realistic (not willing to part with Edler though).

Good proposal, it should be time to start considering bringing in good young pieces since the Sedins need scoring support.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:11 AM

Blake Wheeler is the Jets best forward and is a fan favourite.

He is as untouchable as anyone our roster.

With Byfuglien, Enstrom, Bogosian, Hainsey, M. Stuart, Clitsome, Potsma, and now Trouba there is not a dire need for a defenseman either (I'm a big Hainsey and Stuart fan).

We would gladly trade you Antropov though if you want a big body up front.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 11:48 AM

I watched probably 65 Jets games last year. I wouldn't say he was better than Kane, but he drew less attention on the ice and got better chances. The Jets would probably be loathe to move him, because he's a great worker and seriously good in the dressing room. If you consider that value, Raymond+Edler+2nd doesn't seem unreasonable, but on paper it's such a bad deal that there's no chance it would ever go down.

Personally, I've long been a proponent of moving Buff to Vancouver for Bieksa, Raymond and a pick. Is that unreasonable?
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:07 PM

I watched probably 65 Jets games last year. I wouldn't say he was better than Kane, but he drew less attention on the ice and got better chances. The Jets would probably be loathe to move him, because he's a great worker and seriously good in the dressing room. If you consider that value, Raymond+Edler+2nd doesn't seem unreasonable, but on paper it's such a bad deal that there's no chance it would ever go down.

Personally, I've long been a proponent of moving Buff to Vancouver for Bieksa, Raymond and a pick. Is that unreasonable?


Often Wheeler would be the main focus of other teams defence for entire games.

The value for your Edler/Wheeler trade seems pretty even but I doubt either team makes the deal.

As for your Byfuglien offer, the Jets would reject it. Big Byuf is another cornerstone of the franchise and is as offensively potent as any dman in the league (besides maybe Karlsson).

Bieksa and Raymond would both be welcomed additions to the Jets lineup though. Especially Juice!
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:10 PM

Wheeler is a 1st line player on the Jets. They're not going to deal him. We'd have to offer Edler and that's way too much.

Pretty much just hope we land Doan, or failing that pray Raymond has a bounceback season.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:11 PM

I know they wouldn't trade him, mostly cause of the same 'locker room/fan favorite' agenda, but I think Buff is massively overvalued.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 12:14 PM

As far as I am concerned at this time, and I hope Chipman is on the same page, that Wheeler is untouchable, along with Bogosian.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:04 PM

For starters, why do they want to trade Wheeler?

I can bet they don't; so why would adding Higgins (who is UFA next year) make much difference? And where Tanev is a handy depth D they don't specifically need him either as they have a good young defence.

The Jets need a premium scorer and to stay young as they build. The only scenario I see is Higgins as a temporary sub for Wheeler and Jensen IF they buy he has more upside? That appears a trade that helps both teams.

But I also wonder if Gillis would continue to trade his better young prospects at this stage?

Higgens,Tanev, 2nd

And talks get started


Edited by Canuck Surfer, 23 August 2012 - 04:10 PM.

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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:11 PM

Personally, I've long been a proponent of moving Buff to Vancouver for Bieksa, Raymond and a pick. Is that unreasonable?


Yes. Winnipeg would not be interested.

Nor would they be interested in trading Blake Wheeler, in all likelihood. The end.
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Posted 23 August 2012 - 04:32 PM

A good power forward but inconsistent. Very streaky player. Scary when he is hot.

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