yes they would have the revenue, they would also have the incurred cost, and then the MASSIVE backlash that MLB got from its fans.
Yes, they would have gotten the cost and the revenue. Now, they have almost none of the revenue but still have some of the costs (i.e. injured players, all other employees, arena costs, etc.) Still sound smart to you?
I don't get people saying the players are being shortsighted for fighting for their right to control their own careers as it significantly impacts their lives and families because they will lose more money than they will ever make up, but these same people don't see owners losing billions just so they can make demands even they've admitted don't have a direct effect on the bottom line. They're cutting off their noses to spite their own faces.
And do you have any proof that the backlash would have been any more, much less significantly more, than what they will face now? If not, that's not an argument. It's mere speculation based on a theoretical idea that the PA may
have done something and that may
have resulted in a situation worse than the damage the owners are actually
causing by what they are actually
doing. It's silly to get mad at the PA for something they might have but never actually did. That's a marriage fight and it has no place in sports.
Do you know how robbed we would have felt if the NHL went on strike at playoff time in 2010 with the canucks in first place? most of us would never be back. you cannot take that risk for any amount of money as a league.
From a business perspective, it's better to piss off some of your customers rather than all of them.Now:
All hockey fans are pissed off and denied the game they love.A playoff strike:
Some hockey fans are royally pissed off and denied the game they love.
But in reality, the NHL doesn't care. They've already told us point blank they don't think we're going anywhere. They can do anything they want and not face any real consequences. So, keep lying to yourself that the NHL had your feelings in mind when they decided to lockout players if it helps you sleep at night. Ignorance is bliss.
In the morning, though, the facts will remain as they are: The NHL locked out players so they wouldn't get paid, hoping to put the screws on them as they started missing paydays. That makes their tactic at least as bad as a player playoff strike. The big difference? Players don't get paid for the playoffs, but owners make big profits from them. So, if the players went on strike during the playoffs they would be giving up playing for the Cup, their ultimate career goal, while the owners would be denied their huge playoff profits. With the owners' lockout, as you pointed out, owners are giving up revenue but also avoiding costs. But, with a playoff strike they wouldn't get to miss any costs, just profits. So, they don't care if you or I would be devastated our team didn't get to go for the Cup. They made the selfish choice to lockout players now because they would be devastated if their pure lockout profit were to be taken away later.
without a single bit of proof? fehr did it what twice in MLB? yeah the writing was on the wall why do you think fehr kept saying its an owners lockout and "we can keep playing anytime". not rocket science,
Not true! It was actually one owners' lockout and one players' strike.
In addition to helping the union win 3 lawsuits against the MLB owners for collusion,
Fehr also guided the players through a 32-day lockout by owners in the spring of 1990 and a 232-day strike in 1994-95 in which players stuck together to fight off an attempt by owners to break their union and implement cuts in pay and benefits. Owners went so far as to even try dressing replacement players, but still the union would not bend. It was perhaps the greatest show of union solidarity in modern sports history.
After work stoppages in each of the eight rounds of bargaining between 1972 through 1995, the next round of bargaining, in 2002, brought a contract without a strike or lockout and the same was true for the agreement reached in 2006. That was Fehr's final contract negotiation as executive director and it ensured 16 years of labor peace in baseball.
Fehr also played an important part in spreading the popularity of baseball beyond North America, including efforts to help create and develop the World Baseball Classic, the sport's first World Cup-styled international tournament featuring active Major Leaguers.
So, let's review. Fehr helped strengthen the union, helped create a strong, largely harmonious league, and helped promote the sport in general. Yeah, it would be really terrible if he were allowed to do anything like that to the NHL.
Edited by poetica, 06 December 2012 - 10:02 PM.