Pears Posted December 17, 2012 Share Posted December 17, 2012 Might be stretch in the top 30, but here's a 6'4 220 power forward with speed and grit that's scoring almost PPG in the ohl. Granted he's playing with arguably the league's best in Strome, can't put him down just because you've never heard of him prior to the WJC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kubrick Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 I guess we're gonna have to watch the WJC's to find out boys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nowhereman Posted December 19, 2012 Share Posted December 19, 2012 Where's Dumba? Button LOVED Dumba, proclaiming him the next Chelios, and now he's not on the guy's top 30 list? And Jensen should be on this list... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Kuznetsov and Tarasenko are going to be great players. I'd move Grigorenko and Huberdeau higher up on the list. Can't wait to see the Oilers with Nail and Schultz added to the team. It's going to be exciting hockey. I'm most excited to watch the Oil more than any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyosama Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 No homer Rielly is dope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Kuznetsov and Tarasenko are going to be great players. I'd move Grigorenko and Huberdeau higher up on the list. Can't wait to see the Oilers with Nail and Schultz added to the team. It's going to be exciting hockey. I'm most excited to watch the Oil more than any other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Schultz plays with half the Coils NHLteam in OKC, besides its Craig Button who wrote the artical. No love for the Canucks from him ever. Ex Flames management guy should tell you something right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baercheese Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 We coulda had Kuznetsov. Gillis hasn't drafted a single Russian in his time here. Something tells me he's had bad experiences with Russians as an agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 We coulda had Kuznetsov. Gillis hasn't drafted a single Russian in his time here. Something tells me he's had bad experiences with Russians as an agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 I don't know if it has to do with a lack of love. Button's list isn't the greatest, but the Canucks also don't have a prospect that is in the top 30 in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 But Burkie told everyone in Toronto Reilly should have been the number 1 overall pick... That was actually really funny. As for the list, it's brutal. Ritchie over Granlund & Rielly over Yakupov just speaks to the legitimacy of this list, not any at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkstar Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 That's fine with me. I'll be happy to 'settle' for the next Burrows (undrafted), Hansen (9th round), Edler (91st overall), Bieksa (5th round). You'd think that people might see/think beyond the projected star gazing by now. Shall we run a comparable for Detroit? Zetteburg 210th, Datsyuk 171st...etc. I'm just as concerned that the Canucks don't have Detroit's 121st overall pick in 2008, Gustav Nyqvist, as I am that they don't have any of Button's top 30... Then again, I'm happy to settle for bumbs like the undrafted Tanev, or Jensen (who'd I take over a lot of guys on that list), or another undrafted disappointment like Edde Lack, or that 5th round plug Corrado. Gaunce, Connauton, Kassian and Schroeder are also unworthy or our attention. Gazes at top 30... Hits - panic - button - now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 I guess, but the fact that the Canucks haven't really been that great in terms of drafting/development post-lockout says otherwise. Only 3 players that the Canucks have drafted post-lockout have played more than 40 games in the league (Raymond, Hodgson, Grabner), and only one of them is actually on the Canucks. I know people rip on Brian Burke, but he was better than Mike Gillis when it came to drafting and developing prospects. What worries me is the drafting over the past 7 years. Before that, it was actually quite good. Nobody is hitting the panic button right now, but they might in a few years if this keeps up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 6 of the top 10 prospects on this list are from Canadian teams. That's about all you need to know about the thought that went into this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Jensen is good enough to be on that list. Unfortunately some "analysts" can't seem comprehend the idea that performing in the SEL is alot more significant than performing in the OHL or in college hockey. Playing against men vs. playing against boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King of the ES Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 We coulda had Kuznetsov. Gillis hasn't drafted a single Russian in his time here. Something tells me he's had bad experiences with Russians as an agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Interesting comments coming from the guy who's not at all sold on Schultz because "it's half a year in the freaking AHL". One thing that concerns me about Jensen is that he did not improve, year-over-year, in the OHL from when he was drafted to last year. He ended off 2011 on a very high note, putting up huge numbers in the playoffs. Then he followed that up with a season where his numbers didn't improve, and he had a very ho-hum playoffs. You'd think that with an extra year of maturity/growth, he'd have been able to be that much more dominant. Nope. Red flag, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 0 out of the 30 prospects on this list are from the Vancouver Canucks. That's about all you need to know as to why so many on Canucks.com think that it's so horribly written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 The SEL is the third best league in the world, and Jensen is a top goal scorer there as a 19 year old. 19 not 22. Not to mention he's on one of the worst teams in the league. Comparing forwards and D isn't really that easy. A defenseman needs to develop so many more aspects of their game to make it in the NHL. That's why I'm not sold on Schultz yet. What Jensen did in the OHL has been trumped by what he has done in the SEL. Once a player shows he can play in the higher leagues, junior numbers mean nothing. He's one of those players who seems to perform consistently no matter what league he's in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 One thing that concerns me about Jensen is that he did not improve, year-over-year, in the OHL from when he was drafted to last year. He ended off 2011 on a very high note, putting up huge numbers in the playoffs. Then he followed that up with a season where his numbers didn't improve, and he had a very ho-hum playoffs. You'd think that with an extra year of maturity/growth, he'd have been able to be that much more dominant. Nope. Red flag, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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