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#331 DIBdaQUIB

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

He is still capable of being a good 4th liner who is can be a great defensive specialist.

He is far better conditioning and health wise than last year, he said his eye is almost just as good as before, it's no issue and unlike last year where he didn't get any time to train, he has had a summer of training, and wont be a step behind everyone throughout the entire year like last season, give the guy some time he will show his defensive skills. He probably won't be the 10/11 Manny, but once he knocks off the rust and gets going I could easily seem him as a great defensive 4th line center.


The jury is still out on Manny. I am sure the nucks management are hoping for the same improvement you (and all of us) are. Physically, he is in a better place than the start of last year. Let's hope he can recover his mental game and confidence and soon. There's not much time for him to find his mojo this year.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:42 PM

Randy Carlyle said it was for a short conditioning stint as he'd been off for a while with the concussion. Said he'll be back very quickly.


Yea, thanks could had used you earlier.

Even if Toronto did make Gardiner available in a possible Luongo deal, we wouldn't necessarily need another LH D-man. I mean Ballard could of course be moved or bought out, but making Gardiner the centre piece while we are lacking in secondary scoring becomes counter intuitive. Anyways, I already wrote a lengthy post on why a TOR deal wouldn't work. Might as well continue the WAS speculation.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:45 PM

Still ignorant.

And your little snipe about my post count - yes, I've made nearly twice as many as you, but I've been on here more than twice as long as you have - so apparently you post with more frequency - if you have a problem with the quality of my posts, by all means, lead by example.

Still trying for the last word eh? I think this is bordering on personal attacks. I'll let your small man syndrome continue with someone else, welcome to the ignore list.

This is much ado about nothing, too bad you two are turning this molehill into a mountain.

He's down for conditioning as was suggested earlier (even before oldnews) and I doubt it has anything to do with a Luongo deal.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:47 PM

The Caps are losing again tonight in NJ.

Screws must be tightening a bit more on McPhee.

But word is Neuvirth has been solid tonight, just because a team is losing it doesn't mean it's the goalie's fault. That's how we got in this situation to begin with!

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#NJD Really good period so far for Michal Neuvirth. Guess Oates made the right decision in going back to him tonight

And you can't fault him for the 2-0 goal when it's on a 5 on 3:

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#NJD Devils convert on the 5-on-3 to make it 2-0. Elias puts back Zidlicky's rebound for a PPG

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:51 PM

The Canucks would have to lose a couple more LWs to injury before Tambellini would start to even make remote sense.


Tambellini can play both wings. The fact that we have Weise as a third line winger shows that we don't have as much depth at wing as we thought.

Tambellini has shown that he can play as a top 6 in short stints, Ebbett hasn't. That's why he would be much more valuable to us right now.

Plus his ability in the shootout could end up winning us some games down the road.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:52 PM

But word is Neuvirth has been solid tonight, just because a team is losing it doesn't mean it's the goalie's fault. That's how we got in this situation to begin with!

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#NJD Really good period so far for Michal Neuvirth. Guess Oates made the right decision in going back to him tonight

And you can't fault him for the 2-0 goal when it's on a 5 on 3:

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#NJD Devils convert on the 5-on-3 to make it 2-0. Elias puts back Zidlicky's rebound for a PPG


I do think the Caps need a character change who knows what that would need but they need a lineup shakeup and get some warriors and leaders alongside Ovechkin
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

Tambellini can play both wings. The fact that we have Weise as a third line winger shows that we don't have as much depth at wing as we thought.

Tambellini has shown that he can play as a top 6 in short stints, Ebbett hasn't. That's why he would be much more valuable to us right now.

Plus his ability in the shootout could end up winning us some games down the road.


Ok Weise has no hands that is apparent, but he's played great the past 2 or so games. He's fast, seems to find the right spots on the ice and has had a good couple chances but just haven't finished them.

My only complaint is I'd like him to put more effort into his body checks and would like him to be more tenacious on the forecheck
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:55 PM

Yea, thanks could had used you earlier.

Even if Toronto did make Gardiner available in a possible Luongo deal, we wouldn't necessarily need another LH D-man. I mean Ballard could of course be moved or bought out, but making Gardiner the centre piece while we are lacking in secondary scoring becomes counter intuitive. Anyways, I already wrote a lengthy post on why a TOR deal wouldn't work. Might as well continue the WAS speculation.


I kind of thought Detroit might be another option.

Lots of high ranking prospects. (8.0 and above). Jimmy Howard as a back up. They are not sure if they want to resign him, UFA after this year, Only gets paid 2.25 mil. Lack will be ready next year so it works out. Can't seem to get Detroit out of my mind.

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:56 PM

Me while seeing the Caps losing again

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 06:57 PM

I do think the Caps need a character change who knows what that would need but they need a lineup shakeup and get some warriors and leaders alongside Ovechkin


Regardless, goaltending has been inconsistent and will be a worry going forward, but agree, they also need a shakeup. Perhaps a Ballard / Lou / Manny trade? Adds some veteran players to a line up in need of a change...
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:00 PM

Tambellini can play both wings. The fact that we have Weise as a third line winger shows that we don't have as much depth at wing as we thought.

Tambellini has shown that he can play as a top 6 in short stints, Ebbett hasn't. That's why he would be much more valuable to us right now.

Plus his ability in the shootout could end up winning us some games down the road.


I wouldn't have Weise in that role either, and with Kassian and Hansen, as well as Raymond and Burrows who frequently play RW, I see no reason why Weise should be anywhere but the fourth line or out of the lineup altogether - but I don't see Tambellini as much of an option either. I remember his stint with the Canucks - he was on fire to start - 9 goals in the first month or so, and then went ice cold for half a season... I'd prefer someone like Volpatti or Pinizzotto in the lineup.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:08 PM

Yea, thanks could had used you earlier.

Even if Toronto did make Gardiner available in a possible Luongo deal, we wouldn't necessarily need another LH D-man. I mean Ballard could of course be moved or bought out, but making Gardiner the centre piece while we are lacking in secondary scoring becomes counter intuitive. Anyways, I already wrote a lengthy post on why a TOR deal wouldn't work. Might as well continue the WAS speculation.


I agree. Since we have our top 4 defencemen under contract for another 3 years after this season (Ballard for another 2), not sure he's a fit as the number 5 guy here. We need depth and secondary scoring up front, and with so little in our prospect pool Gillis has to get back a top forward prospect.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:13 PM

But word is Neuvirth has been solid tonight, just because a team is losing it doesn't mean it's the goalie's fault. That's how we got in this situation to begin with!

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#NJD Really good period so far for Michal Neuvirth. Guess Oates made the right decision in going back to him tonight

And you can't fault him for the 2-0 goal when it's on a 5 on 3:

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#NJD Devils convert on the 5-on-3 to make it 2-0. Elias puts back Zidlicky's rebound for a PPG


Yeah you're right. Just saw the highlights and Neuvirth can't be blamed really on either goal. He actually has made a couple of remarkable saves to keep it close. Still, it may be another loss and an 0 and 4 start. Could make McPhee consider expanding the number of players in any deal.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:15 PM

tanev>gardiner


agree....we dont need gardiner

we need a hard nosed stay at home d man (if we're talking d, and that isn't even a big priority bc we have Vandermeer in the minors)

we need a center for the 3rd line who can sub as a number 2 and a top knotch offensive prospect coming back

not sure why people keep suggesting trading our depth to not fill a hole but just create more of a problem?

trade lou for some young goalie how about that? same logic lol....grey matter...use it

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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:26 PM

Tambellini can play both wings. The fact that we have Weise as a third line winger shows that we don't have as much depth at wing as we thought.

Tambellini has shown that he can play as a top 6 in short stints, Ebbett hasn't. That's why he would be much more valuable to us right now.

Plus his ability in the shootout could end up winning us some games down the road.


That's a little unfair to weise. He's earned every bit of ice time he's getting now. I don't see tambellini stealing his spot on the third if weise is playing the way he is.

Weise seriously needs to work on his shot though
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

Tambellini can play both wings. The fact that we have Weise as a third line winger shows that we don't have as much depth at wing as we thought.

Tambellini has shown that he can play as a top 6 in short stints, Ebbett hasn't. That's why he would be much more valuable to us right now.

Plus his ability in the shootout could end up winning us some games down the road.


Weise is only in that role to reward solid play on the 4th line, and because he's in better game shape than any of the other forwards not named Kassian or Schroeder right now. He's also young enough to improve.

I kind of thought Detroit might be another option.

Lots of high ranking prospects. (8.0 and above). Jimmy Howard as a back up. They are not sure if they want to resign him, UFA after this year, Only gets paid 2.25 mil. Lack will be ready next year so it works out. Can't seem to get Detroit out of my mind.


Holland also loves veteran goalies who have a history of playoff failure. eg. Hasek, Cujo, Osgood got ripped on a lot too for the SJ series in 94. I think you might be onto something.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:32 PM

That's a little unfair to weise. He's earned every bit of ice time he's getting now. I don't see tambellini stealing his spot on the third if weise is playing the way he is.

Weise seriously needs to work on his shot though


and staying on his feet, he's been eating alot of boards recently, and from his own doing..
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:39 PM

There are lot of rumors of Lu to tor,for, nyi, was, sjs, ect but how about New Jersey with brodur(i know spell it wrong) over 40 with hedburg
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:40 PM

I don't mind Weise getting a longer look on the 3rd. There was a time when most thought Hansen would never make it past the 4th.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:41 PM

There are lot of rumors of Lu to tor,for, nyi, was, sjs, ect but how about New Jersey with brodur(i know spell it wrong) over 40 with hedburg


I think both NJ & Det become more realistic options if Lu is still here in the summer, or if one or the other is out of the playoff race by the trade deadline.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 07:48 PM

Caps lose in ot,,,Lindback GAA will be around 4 after tonight(4 goals after 2 periods after allowing 7 in his 2 previous games) and Isles Dipietro allowed 4 tonight


Thinking the Caps, Isles and Tampa are the most likely destinations for Lu.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:04 PM

so now that Washington has lost, if the Canucks lose tonight, what happens next?
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

and staying on his feet, he's been eating alot of boards recently, and from his own doing..


I laughed for like ten minutes after I saw the slo mo replay of him riding out the boards on his nose. He slid for like 6 feet right where the glass meets the boards hahahaha
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 08:06 PM

neuvirth or whatever his name is from the capitals had a great game which is fine and everything, but he had a rough game before and if the caps do not go out and get a good goaltender that is the way it is going to be for them- some nights good goaltending, some nights not so much and if they lose when their goaltender plays well, then they have waisted one of precious few times their goaltender will give them a chance to win.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:28 PM

how about this = Scrivens, Kulemin & Kessel for Lu + the Nucks retain 50% of Lu's contract to lighten the cap hit!!!..........


Take out Kessel and add Kadri and I could actually see a trade like that happening.

I think the favorite to get Lu is Toronto. Any team that repeatedly say they aren't interested usually are.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 10:56 PM

Multiple warning signs surrounding Cory Schneider.
Be worried. Be very, very worried.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:03 PM

every game we win lessons the pressure on us to have to make a move .. cory has instilled confidence in his team , while wash , t.o , and florida are struggling ... it only means good things for us ..
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:05 PM

agree....we dont need gardiner

we need a hard nosed stay at home d man (if we're talking d, and that isn't even a big priority bc we have Vandermeer in the minors)

we need a center for the 3rd line who can sub as a number 2 and a top knotch offensive prospect coming back

not sure why people keep suggesting trading our depth to not fill a hole but just create more of a problem?

trade lou for some young goalie how about that? same logic lol....grey matter...use it


I disagree completely. Canucks don't have a player like Gardiner in their system. None of their dmen can skate as well and is that offensive. Nucks have a lot of good 2way dmen and some good defensive. Tanev and Gardiner play nothing alike.
Gardiner and Bozak
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:07 PM

Multiple warning signs surrounding Cory Schneider.
Be worried. Be very, very worried.


I don't know, if you're exaggerating, or if you're not really paying attention to Schneider and Luongo in net.
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Posted 25 January 2013 - 11:13 PM

I don't know, if you're exaggerating, or if you're not really paying attention to Schneider and Luongo in net.


It's a tongue in cheek shot at another poster who started this thread:

http://forum.canucks...g-zack-kassian/

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