So first this team is too soft for the playoffs. But people want Ehrhoff and Salo over Ballard and Garrison?
No kidding. People are talking out both sides.
This team isn't any tougher than the 2011 team either, aside from the Kassian addition.
I guess you think that adding Booth isn't an upgrade in size and physicality.
This team needed to get bigger, and we did that and did it effectively with the additions of Booth, Kassian, Garrison, & Weise.
Lies, damned lies and statistics...
Just a couple of other relevant numbers:
Buffalo is 6th in goals for, but last in goals against. TB is 1st in goals for, but 21st in goals against. Vancouver is 9th in goals for and 5th in goals against.
TB is 4th with a +10 in goals differential. Vancouver is 5th at +8. Buffalo is 24th at -8.
Buffalo is 24th in the League, 12th in their conference and 5th in their division. TB is 19th in the League, 9th in their confernce and 2nd in their division. Vancouver is 7th in the NHL.
So, both Buffalo and TB have scored more goals than the Canucks, but their teams haven't got as many points in the standings as the Canucks.
Vancouver has a better goals against, and does have more points in the standings than either Burralo or TB.
One team has a higher goal differential than Vancouver, and the other has a lower goal differential than Vancouver, and Vancouver has a better standing in the NHL than either of them.
Keep us apprised as to the guys you'd be picking and how their respective teams are making out.
A factor which seems to be neglected in the whole Ehrhoff story is, if he was getting the majority of the prime opportunities to get points, wouldn't it follow that he would likely get more points than the guys who didn't those opportunities? When he was here, if Ehrhoff was getting the majority of the power play time, and was on the ice with the Sedins more often than not, wouldn't it follow that he would likely get more points than guys like Salo?
An absolutely brilliant post. Especially the highlighted part.
I guess people haven't seen the playoffs in recent years, it has been all about goaltending and defense. No wonder us, Chicago, Philly and Pittsburgh have all been unsuccessful while teams that play defensive styles that rely on having some toughness, physicality and defense like New Jersey, LA and Boston have had success.
Funny how Ballard, Bieksa, and Edler all have more penalties than him.
He sucks at skating huh? Well that's just a dumb statement. Just because he doesn't have Ballard or Hamhuis' skating ability doesn't mean he sucks...
I thought he is skating is fine, he joins the rush at times and I think he has the speed to do so, he's not the fastest of our D-men but neither was Salo, and I would say he is faster than Salo myself.
Does he take the Sedins with him when he is playing in Buffalo and has 10 points right now? Vancouver is lucky that they have two elite goalies backstopping their team. Garrison has the advantage of playing on a good team. The way some of you hype this guy up people would think we were talking about Pronger or something. Garrison has been horrible on offense and below average to average on defense. He hasn't looked good whether we are talking about stats or actual play. If you really think Salo and Ehrhoff were not contributing to our SCF team, then you were not watching hockey.
I guess what you forget before making a post like this, is that Ehrhoff is playing beside the hottest player in the league Vanek and one of the other hottest in Pominville.
You also forget Garrison is getting 2nd PP time and very little of it.
More-so you also forget when Ehrhoff was here our PP was partially built around using him to the greatest benefit we could, something we haven't yet done with Jason Garrison.
Worst +/- on the team, and less effective when the going got tougher (injury or no). He has great skill and brought some excellent things to this team, but he was also not nearly as effective in other areas. I'm not saying he's bad, but he's not better than everyone else either.
We offered him a contract and he refused it. We weren't going to give him a 10 year deal like he got in Buffalo, so we traded him rather than get nothing.
Shhhh. Quiet. Logic and more advanced thinking has no place here. The bottom line is Ehrhoff left cause we didn't meet his demands. So it's all MG's fault! Fire him!