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#61 Darth Kane

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:31 AM

Give him time, he's adjusting to Western Conference, I have full confidence he will start to shine in next few games.


Exactly, he's getting use to a new team and the pressure of playing for his hometown team. Garrison has always been a hard worker and found success where ever he's played, so why would Vancouver be any different? There are a few holes on the team right now and it's magnified the growing pains Garrison has had. In the summer I said that this signing would be viewed as the best value of all the UFAs signed in the summer and I still stand by that.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:37 AM

Not worried about Garrison yet. He hasnt shown signs of being the next Ballard (who is playing well now). He is just settling himself in to playing for the western conference, a new team, and his home.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

tl;dr

Care to simplify?

And yeah, Garrison has displayed complete flop. Is it his fault, not necessarily. Perhaps if you read my post... but seriously, why is Garrison trying to make everything so damned complicated?

Moving away from the point during PP, creeping towards the net and guess what? NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE HELL YOU ARE TO PASS TO! Keep it simple, stupid. He does this every time he's in the offensive zone. You really gotta get in the grove before you start thinking outside the box.

Oh, then there's his "creativity" in the defensive zone. Nice pass... to the other players. CLEAR THE PUCK! HIT THE PLAYERS! SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER! Seriously, why is Garrison passing in the offensive zone? Just shoot!

He's completely confused out there. He isn't keeping it simple, and it is VERY clear is isn't even trying to simplify because nobody has told him to. That kind of crap is on the coach, and guess what? It ain't happening.

Same thing happened with Ballard. Defensive zone "creativity". It must be something they do down in Florida or something... At any rate, that crap is on Bowness's shoulders and, ultimately, AV's as well.

Get a grip and read a post instead of flaunting your ignorance about.

It is the sedin's job to find him they are skilled and two of the best playmaker's in the league they will eventually figure out what he is doing. Also creeping defenseman adds another dimension to the power play that we did not have and will be effective when they have time to adjust to it.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

Didn't the same thing happen to Hammer when he first joined and CDC was calling for his head after 10 games saying it was a bad pick-up? I guess understanding that moving across the continent to a new work environment with new players to play with is not a forgivable aspect according to CDC.

Every player we sign must be amazing when they join us or it's a bust!
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 10:47 AM

I think its a little early to hit the panic button... you gotta think the guy is playing for a new team and new coach.... and that coach is AV who tends to switch up things non stop...
Have to give it some time for the guy to adjust and 6 games is not enough, not to mention he is not doing too bad... sure there are times when we cringe, but then again its not just Garrison... the entire team counts for a ton of mistakes
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:03 AM

What makes me laugh about this thread is that I remember a guy named Wellwood who showed up rehabbing a broken foot and who was being castigated by everybody in Vancouver BEFORE HE EVER EVEN HIT THE ICE by both "fans" and even his coach (and who was making league minimum). Considered "fat" at 185 lbs. he was run out of town despite being a crafty skill player (and terrific shootout specialist which we don't need , right?) and is currently the cheapest 18 goal scorer in the NHL. Garrison will get cut all the slack he needs forever, probably because he makes a lot of dough based on one good season with a lousy team and nobody here will ever admit to our genius GM ever making a mistake. A hoot. So far he sucks IMHO.

Edited by thema, 29 January 2013 - 11:04 AM.

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:10 AM

Edler is being to greedy with the puck, and attempting crap shots, when he could set garrison up on the pp. Edler and garrison should be on different PP and they should both play the left point.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:11 AM

playing with edler and bieksa not helping right now

skills and skating not an issue

confidence and handling pressure is lacking but hopefully he will adapt

give him another 10 games
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:12 AM

He has been absolutely terrible.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

Garrison, like Tanev, has only one giveaway so far. Too bad it went right in front to one of the hottest scorers in the league. Ballard's giveaway to Horcoff was far worse, but fortunately, it was Horcoff!

Edler, meanwhile, already has 6 giveaways. Hard to settle into a new team when your D partner keeps handing the puck back to the opposing team.

Also, Edler seems to completely ignore Garrison on the PP. No wonder Jason roams - it's his only chance at being involved in the play!
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:38 AM

He has been absolutely terrible.

He really hasn't been though.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

I'm not a fan of Garrison myself. I think he needs to be more physical!!!!! I didn't know he was so soft!!!!!! No hits - No fights - Garbage

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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:40 AM

He has been absolutely terrible.


So true
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:48 AM

You are right, Garrison looked pretty bad last night...And Edler has been rough...But I truly believe Garrison is going to be a beast when he gets rolling, and Edler will round out as well. That looked like some terrible ice in the third period and guys were tired...So many guys were falling down, puck was bouncing all over...I think the guys just need a week or so more to get their timing down...especially for one-timers, and to eliminate bonehead passes through the middle...just wait. The main concern I have is when LA wanted to, they were able to just hammer on our team and dominate physically...We really do look small...Kassian is only 1 big tough body, nobody else seems to have any real jam...Volpatti and Weise just don't play enough shifts to be relevant on a consistent basis, especially in third period and close games. The Kings were just hammering our defence, and our forwards had no chance in puck battles along the boards. Love our speed and possession game, but when we don't have possession we are in big trouble...So maybe a few more weeks, and passes will get crisper, the twins will find their groove, Garrison will start dropping bombs on net, Kassian will keep rolling, Booth and Kes will be back, and Edler will be on top of his game...Plus we may have some new big talent up front in return for Lu. All that and I think we are gonna be good.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:57 AM

I'm not a fan of Garrison myself. I think he needs to be more physical!!!!! I didn't know he was so soft!!!!!! No hits - No fights - Garbage


He got hit alright :lol:
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 11:59 AM

Seems like there is a break in period for new players we sign. I think they are told to keep it simple and don't make mistakes. He will get better as time goes on and he gets more comfortable.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

I'm not a fan of Garrison myself. I think he needs to be more physical!!!!! I didn't know he was so soft!!!!!! No hits - No fights - Garbage


Garrison's statsheet says he has 8 hits, which is right in the middle of the pack for our D.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:35 PM

I think he will settle in eventually and am not writing him off but some of the mistakes aren't 'settling in' mistakes.

Like the PP goal last night Gagne made him look rather silly and quite a few less glaring examples have occured. That's just being soft on the puck which is something we don't need from a big guy.

He gets a pass in my books for now as the rest of the D looks just as bad so I don't think 1 guy can be singled out and blamed.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:38 PM

Garrison is doing fine. Give him some time to adjust to the new team
Hamhuis and Edler look very rusty. Edler on the right side = :sadno:
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 12:49 PM

Hopefully he settles in soon, the only times I notice him are when he misses the net by like 5 feet, gives the puck away, or gets absolutely crushed by a big hit lol.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:13 PM

tl;dr

Care to simplify?

And yeah, Garrison has displayed complete flop. Is it his fault, not necessarily. Perhaps if you read my post... but seriously, why is Garrison trying to make everything so damned complicated?

Moving away from the point during PP, creeping towards the net and guess what? NOBODY KNOWS WHERE THE HELL YOU ARE TO PASS TO! Keep it simple, stupid. He does this every time he's in the offensive zone. You really gotta get in the grove before you start thinking outside the box.

Oh, then there's his "creativity" in the defensive zone. Nice pass... to the other players. CLEAR THE PUCK! HIT THE PLAYERS! SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER! Seriously, why is Garrison passing in the offensive zone? Just shoot!

He's completely confused out there. He isn't keeping it simple, and it is VERY clear is isn't even trying to simplify because nobody has told him to. That kind of crap is on the coach, and guess what? It ain't happening.

Same thing happened with Ballard. Defensive zone "creativity". It must be something they do down in Florida or something... At any rate, that crap is on Bowness's shoulders and, ultimately, AV's as well.

Get a grip and read a post instead of flaunting your ignorance about.

I read your first post and just like this one you are basically calling him a flop after 6 games so once again, nice job :picard: and ignorance is thinking you can judge a player after 6 games , then go on in believing you could coach the player better than Boness and AV. Garrison is playing no better or worse than who he is paired with or on the ice with.
You can not go through all your terrible analysis and fail to come to the conclusion that a new player needs the team around him to be doing well before he can show what he is capable of.
Another thing in your first post you compare or categorize Garrison, after 6 games, to players who have been there for more than a year :picard:
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:16 PM

I'm sorry, but the guy has had 7 months since he signed to figure things out. It's not like he sat on his couch every day for during the lockout.

At what Vancouver is paying him, I expect better.

I guess this can be what happens when you sign a 28 year old with a grand total of 2.5 NHL seasons under his belt to a 4.5mil 6 year contract.... WITH A NTC to make it even more awesome.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

He hasn't been good, no doubt about that. But I say give him some more time to adjust to everything and he will do better.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:20 PM

He looks slow. Very very slow. We should never be out skated, by anyone.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:24 PM

IMO I would take Garrison over Hamuis...Hammy looks lost this year...maybe due to his flub that got us knocked out last year...
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:26 PM

I'm sorry, but the guy has had 7 months since he signed to figure things out. It's not like he sat on his couch every day for during the lockout.

At what Vancouver is paying him, I expect better.

I guess this can be what happens when you sign a 28 year old with a grand total of 2.5 NHL seasons under his belt to a 4.5mil 6 year contract.... WITH A NTC to make it even more awesome.

:lol: 7 months to figure what out ... how to play in game situations and figure out his line mates without playing with them in real game situations, in his mind :bigblush:
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:33 PM

:lol: 7 months to figure what out ... how to play in game situations and figure out his line mates without playing with them in real game situations, in his mind :bigblush:


3/4 of the team pretty much stayed in Vancouver. It doesn't take alot to figure out that in the time they spent waiting for a deal to be done, they could have been scrimmaging or getting prepared.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:37 PM

IMO I would take Garrison over Hamuis...Hammy looks lost this year...maybe due to his flub that got us knocked out last year...


Hamhuis is sucking for sure, but at least we know he can be better. We don't really know if Garrison is bad or just playing bad now.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:55 PM

I don't think over hyped, but I do think over exposed.

The rest of the D haven't made it an easy transition. Hamhuis-Bieksa should be the rock on this team right now. The team is trying to pick up where they left off from previous seasons but that's asking a lot of Garrison to simply fill-in for Salo, Salo was a major part of this team.

Decisions like splitting the pairings on the PK last night, presumably to get one of Edler/Garrison to clear the crease, is what is messing things up. Keep it simple until the team gets settled in. Until then, use Hamhuis-Bieksa as the 1st pairing.

I really don't see the point in experimenting with the D so much. It's like they do just because they can.
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Posted 29 January 2013 - 01:59 PM

we signed him not trade for him

thanks. but whatever the case is, it's still a change of scenery, you know what i mean
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