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#31 Markus Alexander Cody

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:40 PM

LOL





But a serious overpayment since it's a 2nd
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

what a joke a team gives up a 2nd rounder to reach the cap floor but not actually gain a player that can help them? y not go make a real trade to try and improve the islanders.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:41 PM

According to Bob Mckenzie the 2nd round pick is conditional on Thomas reporting. If he doesn't then no pick. The net effect is Boston dumps Thomas's cap hit and the Isles use the cap hit to stay over the cap floor
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

I take it the Isles would have the oldest tandem in the league if Thomas reports?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:46 PM

hope eklund gets 3 right and his theory of weiss being involved for luongo happens too
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:48 PM

Did Thomas's cap hit count againt the Bruins while he's suspended?

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Guess it does cus he's over 35!

Edited by Ray Canuck, 07 February 2013 - 03:50 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:50 PM

What does this make luongo worth?
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Damn Islanders, ruining the game. Boston runs away with this laughing, a 2nd as well as dumping cap space .... that's a steal.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:51 PM

Another huge factor is that if Tim Thomas never plays again the Islander can toll his contract every year and use the $5 million cap hit in perpetuity.

A great trade for the Isles who have difficulty reaching the cap floor.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:52 PM

Damn Islanders, ruining the game. Boston runs away with this laughing, a 2nd as well as dumping cap space .... that's a steal.


They dont get the 2nd round pick unless Tim Thomas reports
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

Now he can pump DiPietro's tires.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

What does this make luongo worth?


What does this have to do with Luongo at all? This is not a hockey trade what so ever, this is just curcumventing the cap...
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

People need to stop reacting, and look at the conditions before commenting.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

LOL





But a serious overpayment since it's a 2nd

what a joke a team gives up a 2nd rounder to reach the cap floor but not actually gain a player that can help them? y not go make a real trade to try and improve the islanders.

Damn Islanders, ruining the game. Boston runs away with this laughing, a 2nd as well as dumping cap space .... that's a steal.


3 out of 6 posters on this page can't read. The 2nd rounder is CONDITIONAL. As stated in the OP and many times since.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:54 PM

Thomas has been pretty adamant that he's only taking a year off, and wants to be involved in the 2014 Olympics. As funny as that sounds, considering his age, Tim has surprised everyone before.

So if he does come back, getting him for a 2nd rounder is a steal for the Islanders. If he doesn't, no pick, so doesn't cost them anything.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

Another huge factor is that if Tim Thomas never plays again the Islander can toll his contract every year and use the $5 million cap hit in perpetuity.

A great trade for the Isles who have difficulty reaching the cap floor.


That can't be right, can it?

I thought the geniuses at the NHL head offices cleared up all of the loopholes in the cba. /sarcasm

Edited by theminister, 07 February 2013 - 04:00 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

with the team moving to Brookyln next year I think he's gonna play. He is too much of a competitor for me to buy this unibomber act he is playing. I think he didnt want to share the net with Rask.

Edited by pinecone, 07 February 2013 - 03:56 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:55 PM

Apparently only BOS gets a 2nd pick if Thomas reports to the NYI or is traded elsewhere. They can apparently even roll his contract over to next year and in perpetuity. He counts against the cap but does not get paid a dime.

This is a HUGE loop hole and one that GMMG can really use as trade leverage. There's no such thing as a cap reclamation if Luongo gets traded and rather than retire, simply walks away with a few years remaining on his deal. It could actually work as an advantage to cap floor teams that need to artificially get up to a minimum without actually having to pay real dollars.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

Did Thomas's cap hit count againt the Bruins while he's suspended?

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Guess it does cus he's over 35!


Yup 5mil this season but I don't know how this trade effects (if at all) this season.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:57 PM

Or goes on to win the Vezina and Conn Smythe...

Boston will be back in the finals again this year.
I'm calling it now.


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Posted 07 February 2013 - 03:58 PM

And people thought there wouldn't be an easy way to circumvent the cap under the new CBA...
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:04 PM

As much as I dislike Boston, it was BS they had $5m against their cap for a guy who isn't playing the entire year. Thomas really put his team in a bad situation.

So this is good for Boston.

As for NYI.... I really can see Wang just calling Thomas' contract every year and essentially having a cap floor $5m lower than everyone else.... :picard:

Still waiting on the 'hockey is more important than waterfront developments' clause in the new CBA.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:04 PM

what a joke a team gives up a 2nd rounder to reach the cap floor but not actually gain a player that can help them? y not go make a real trade to try and improve the islanders.


Because they don't have to pay any of Thomas's salary as long as he's suspended.

The Islanders can't afford another 5 million to get to the cap floor. That's why they need to make a move like this.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:04 PM

This is not a hockey trade what so ever.....

Also, please don't post trade info without links.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:06 PM

The Boston Bruins have traded goaltender Tim Thomas to the New York Islanders in exchange for a conditional second-round draft pick in 2014 or 2015.
The draft pick the Bruins acquired is conditional on Thomas reporting to the Islanders or to any other team in the event the Islanders should trade his rights elsewhere.
The move puts the Islanders above the cap floor and the team can choose to toll the contract so they can keep using the cap hit in perpetuity if Thomas doesn't come back, or just let his contract expire at the end of the season.
Boston, meanwhile, clears Thomas' contract from its books. Though he has taken the season off, Thomas' contract still counts towards the Bruins' salary cap obligations, since he is over the age of 35. Thomas announced last summer that he was taking a year off from hockey.
"We have acquired an asset for our organization," Islanders general manager Garth Snow said. "This acquisition allows us flexibility with our roster moving forward."
Bruins general manager Peter Chiarelli is expected to address the media about the trade at 6:15pm et Thursday.
Thomas is in the final year of his current contract, which carries a $5 million cap hit for the 2012-13 season. The no-movement clause that is a part of the deal expired July 1, 2012.
The 38-year-old went 35-19-1 with a 2.36 goals-against average and a .920 save percentage in 2011-12. In the playoffs, he had a 2.14 GAA and a .923 save percentage. Boston lost in seven games to Washington in the first round.
Thomas won the 2009 and 2011 Vezina Trophy, and has a 196-121-45 record and 2.48 GAA in 378 career games with the Bruins. In 50 postseason games, he holds a 29-21 mark with a 2.07 GAA. He won the 2011 Conn Smythe Trophy after leading Boston to its first Stanley Cup title since 1972.
A native of Flint, Michigan, Thomas was originally drafted by the Quebec Nordiques in the 11th round (217th overall) of the 1994 NHL Entry Draft. He was signed by the Bruins as a free agent prior to the 2005-06 season.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

Haha, I called this one months ago. Wouldn't be surprised to see Visnovsky moved next! They no longer need him to hit the floor.

Edit.
His contract expires at the end of this season, so its a cap floor measure for this year only.

Edited by gizmo2337, 07 February 2013 - 04:08 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:07 PM

Because they don't have to pay any of Thomas's salary as long as he's suspended.

The Islanders can't afford another 5 million to get to the cap floor. That's why they need to make a move like this.

I can't see the Isles getting away with this for more than a season. I imagine the NHLPA would file a grievance.
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:08 PM

Haha, I called this one months ago. Wouldn't be surprised to see Visnovsky moved next! They no longer need him to hit the floor.

Edit.
His contract expires at the end of this season, so its a cap floor measure for this year only.


I can corroborate this. He did indeed.

Edited by theminister, 07 February 2013 - 04:11 PM.

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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:09 PM

This benefits Bruins and nothing for the Islander............Bruins get 5 million cap space meaning they can make a trade.......damn!
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Posted 07 February 2013 - 04:12 PM

This is not a hockey trade what so ever.....

Also, please don't post trade info without links.


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