Gurn Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 " etc but this is the best system to address the needs of the society we are all part of. to allow anyone group veto over a democratically elected government will only lead to alienation and hostility. No one will benefit from that. Some famous guy said "Democracy must be more than 3 wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner" "The ANC didn't ask for VETO for the wrongs they suffered, they chose to participate in the democratic process of their country. They also out number white folk by a large amount so no problem with a democratic vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckGAME Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 My people, first off have always lived in this land. We have archaeological evidence to prove us as far back as 15 000 - 18 000 years. Wow. Secondly- There are far more First Nations communities out there that heavily depend on the natural environment for food sources then you might realize. Salmon, Prawns, Crabs, Bottom Fish.. etc.. The water base between Vancouver- Victoria and Seattle have already been determind to be too poisoned to eat the food from it.. So why pollute the part of BC that actually hasn't been polluted. I have been dealing with all the racist people through my small town all day. Let me hear more. has nothing to do with racism at all so dont pull that card, first nations people always claim to care so much about the environment but they are just as much at fault as every other race out there, as a fisherman myself I get pissed off when I see first nations people gill netting the hell out of the waters when the salmon go up stream and then proceed to go around selling them for profit, claiming they are THEIR salmon. Destroying the future runs. there is always a double standard, in my opinion this is the 21st century everyone is equil im tired of the who es me sob story. Im sure you drive a gas guzzeling vehicle and you are using power resources to type on your computer... we are all equal.. And before you pull the race card again, my girlfriend is native. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fagin Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 has nothing to do with racism at all so dont pull that card, first nations people always claim to care so much about the environment but they are just as much at fault as every other race out there, as a fisherman myself I get pissed off when I see first nations people gill netting the hell out of the waters when the salmon go up stream and then proceed to go around selling them for profit, claiming they are THEIR salmon. Destroying the future runs. there is always a double standard, in my opinion this is the 21st century everyone is equil im tired of the who es me sob story. Im sure you drive a gas guzzeling vehicle and you are using power resources to type on your computer... we are all equal.. And before you pull the race card again, my girlfriend is native. Well said my friend,It would do some Vancouverites good to come north and see the difference in attitudes whether First nation or not.This is not just a Vancouver item we are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHawkSniper Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Sad day for BC. Guess what Alberta and China wants, Alberta and China gets. Id take a healthy environment over 20,000 non permanent jobs any day. Wonderful, now pls tell me how you plan on moving the oil... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Dp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Wonderful, now pls tell me how you plan on moving the oil... How about not moving it at all. The Oil Sands are not a feasible source in the long term and the environmental effects of extraction have been severely damaging environmentally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Wonderful, now pls tell me how you plan on moving the oil... By routing the pipeline to a safer port such as Prince Rupert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Kitimat will be Fort McMurray Pt 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Oil is a finite resource. All we're doing is stalling for time. Instead of destroying the environment, maybe put some money in renewables. You know create long term permanent jobs, instead of getting the oil sands and leaving an environmental wasteland for decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucklehead Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 The final decision, however, rests with the federal government, which has 180 days to decide. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMBUTANS Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Oil is a finite resource. All we're doing is stalling for time. Instead of destroying the environment, maybe put some money in renewables. You know create long term permanent jobs, instead of getting the oil sands and leaving an environmental wasteland for decades? I agree. The government should provide long term permanent jobs without depending on oil. I think they should start by Canadianizing all manufacturing and taking back from China. Sell only goods in the country that's made in Canada. Then, all telephone operators should be in Canada instead of Asia. It will be a good start then move on from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I agree. The government should provide long term permanent jobs without depending on oil. I think they should start by Canadianizing all manufacturing and taking back from China. Sell only goods in the country that's made in Canada. Then, all telephone operators should be in Canada instead of Asia. It will be a good start then move on from there. And how the hell do you accomplish this given the opportunity for individuals to just buy cheaper goods from American companies online? Globalization isn't going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMBUTANS Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 And how the hell do you accomplish this given the opportunity for individuals to just buy cheaper goods from American companies online? Globalization isn't going anywhere. I'm not really sure. I think we should use another country with no oil as model, like probably, India? Just off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goalie13 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I agree. The government should provide long term permanent jobs without depending on oil. I think they should start by Canadianizing all manufacturing and taking back from China. Sell only goods in the country that's made in Canada. Then, all telephone operators should be in Canada instead of Asia. It will be a good start then move on from there. Considering we're a country that relies economically on our exports, wouldn't that be a little hypocritical? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLASSJAW Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Oil is a finite resource. All we're doing is stalling for time. Instead of destroying the environment, maybe put some money in renewables. You know create long term permanent jobs, instead of getting the oil sands and leaving an environmental wasteland for decades? quick, easy, dirty, cancerous money the current batch old morons will have the benefit of being dead when the following generations are left to clean up the inevitable mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hudson bay rules Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I'm happy for local jobs but still can't find a reason for the pipeline. There is only so much oil available and if we decided to twin the lines going down to the states there would still be buyers for the oil. no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sypher009 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Brutal "The report issued today said while impacts of a large oil spill would be huge", this right here is reason enough to say no to this. no it isn't because you don't stop a project this massive or any other project based on hypotheticals or what if's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 no it isn't because you don't stop a project this massive or any other project based on hypotheticals or what if's In the oil industry, spills aren't a hypothetical, but an inevitability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dittohead Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Anyone against Oil just stop using it all together. good luck surviving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackberries Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Anyone against Oil just stop using it all together. good luck surviving. No one is saying they're against oil. They're saying they don't want a pipeline and tanker transport through ecologically fragile environments ...like how is that a difficult concept to grasp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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