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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:49 PM

I'm not bring up another Hodgson VS Kassian thread.  We should be already past that. 

 

What would you guys do with Kassian this off season?  I would probably just offer him a 2 year contract worth $1million/year.

 

He's 23 now and I think for the next 2 years if he's still putting up similar stats he should be considerred a AHLer/4th liner.

 

With Jensen now emerging, if Kassian still doesn't pan out like we hope, this could be his last contract with the canucks.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:52 PM

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I'm not bring up another Hodgson VS Kassian thread.  We should be already past that. 

 

What would you guys do with Kassian this off season?  I would probably just offer him a 2 year contract worth $1million/year.

 

He's 23 now and I think for the next 2 years if he's still putting up similar stats he should be considerred a AHLer/4th liner.

 

With Jensen now emerging, if Kassian still doesn't pan out like we hope, this could be his last contract with the canucks.

:picard: He's played 6 games and kassian is still young. 


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:52 PM

Sign him to a 1-2 year deal, if he isn't showing much more by the end of that... Don't keep him.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:55 PM

Hope we can lock him down for 2-3 years at a low cap hit. 

 

 

My guess is we sign him for 2 years/2 mill per


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 04:59 PM

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Less than 1mill, 1 year.  tell him to get his sh*t together.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:12 PM

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With the cap going up he'll get 1.5-2 mil most likely. Hopefully we can lock him up for 3 years.

He's still got alot of work to do with his game, but it's slowly coming around. When he gets away from all the dumb stuff, he's actually a pretty skilled player. That no look pass he made on Schroeder's goal was Sedin-like. He just needs to bring that sort of thing consistently. He's still only 23 though, so he's got time.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:15 PM

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2 yrs, 2.5 mil / 1.25 per annum. He'll be past the party boy stage by then. It really is crucial, the term. Screw the dollars. We'll get another year of transition Kass and then a year of PWF Kass. Gotta do it. 2 yr deal.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:16 PM

With the cap going up he'll get 1.5-2 mil most likely. Hopefully we can lock him up for 3 years.

He's still got alot of work to do with his game, but it's slowly coming around. When he gets away from all the dumb stuff, he's actually a pretty skilled player. That no look pass he made on Schroeder's goal was Sedin-like. He just needs to bring that sort of thing consistently. He's still only 23 though, so he's got time.


This is more thought out and articulate, as usual from Deniro.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:22 PM

Hope we can get him to sign for 3 years at 1.7.

 

Then he'll be a sleeper 30 goal scorer in another year.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:31 PM

I think Torts is actually the right coach for him, I'd like to keep him around for another 3 years @ 1.5-1.75mill per season. I think he shows some promise and in my opinion he looks better this year than last. If he keeps improving then he is worth keeping around


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:31 PM

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I'm not bring up another Hodgson VS Kassian thread.  We should be already past that. 

 

What would you guys do with Kassian this off season?  I would probably just offer him a 2 year contract worth $1million/year.

 

He's 23 now and I think for the next 2 years if he's still putting up similar stats he should be considerred a AHLer/4th liner.

 

With Jensen now emerging, if Kassian still doesn't pan out like we hope, this could be his last contract with the canucks.

 

Now that's just some seriously limited logic.  

It's like;  sees a shiny new toy, discards the one in hand.

There are 12 forwards spots - and until Jensen and then Kassian were added to the organization, RW was easily the Canucks shallowest position.

Burrows is a natural LW moved to RW to play with the Sedins.

Hansen is an elite 3rd line RW.

The Canucks have built some depth down the middle, but one Jensen (who happens to be a left handed shot who plays RW for the most part) is not going to make Kassian expendable.

2 years x 1 million and potentially his last contract - that's both bleak and a pretty dramatic underplaying of what Kassian is showing he can bring.  People may wish to dwell on numbers out of context, but 11 goals and 19 points is not bad at all playing 12 third line minutes a night, on a depleted Canucks roster, getting 43% offensive zone starts.

He'll be an important part of the team moving forward.  What he's done with Booth and rotating depth centers is not really that indicative of what he's capable of imo.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:32 PM

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Hope we can get him to sign for 3 years at 1.7.
 
Then he'll be a sleeper 30 goal scorer in another year.


30 goals? stay off the boards and do your job Gillis
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:43 PM

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Hope we can get him to sign for 3 years at 1.7.

 

Then he'll be a sleeper 30 goal scorer in another year.

 

The way Kassian is playing right now, he's not a just a sleeper. He's unconscious, and possibly not breathing.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:49 PM

Lock him up for 4 years at 1.2

 

This is the first year I've seen glimpses of real skill from Kassian.

 

If he continues developing, he'll cost too much to re-sign in 2 years.

 

If he stays where he is, skill wise then were still paying him a decent 3rd line salary.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:52 PM

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30 goals? stay off the boards and do your job Gillis

 

Really?

Kesler has scored 22 goals this season.   .89 gp60 minutes.

Kassian is scoring at a rate of .85 gp60. 

The difference?

Kesler is playing top 6 minutes and is one a 27 goal / 82 game pace.

Kassian is playing 12 minutes a night in a makeshift bottom six and is on a 15 goal / 82 game pace.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:53 PM

Kassian has had the luxury of playing with an experienced, $4.5 m salaried third liner in Booth.Ironic in that two of Gillis' largest boneheaded moves play together on the third line.
Be interesting to see Hodgson and Kassian play in the same game this coming Sunday.
With Jensen's emergence,Hansen's solid,two-way game and Burr's revival it seems Kassian may be plying 4th line minutes next year.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:54 PM

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I'd go longer term at between 2 and 4 million

The guy has size and skill, that package that is rare. He could become a 70 point producer during this at a bargain and worste case scenario, he's comparable to the booth contract (but not really).
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 05:58 PM

not sure about the numbers but NTC for sure
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:00 PM

He could become a 70 point producer during this


Lucic in his best year only put up 60 points. I think with Kassian we are looking at a guy in the 40-50 point range.

Reason being, he is an inconsistent player, and he will most likely miss 5-10 games per season due to suspension.

He is now a repeat offender in the league, don't be surprised if his next suspension is 10 games.

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:01 PM

We seem invested in him. He should get a fair deal all around. Could take a gamble and sign him to a 4 year deal at a lower price point.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:02 PM

4 yrs @ 2M per. 


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:07 PM

Kassian has had the luxury of playing with an experienced, $4.5 m salaried third liner in Booth.Ironic in that two of Gillis' largest boneheaded moves play together on the third line.
Be interesting to see Hodgson and Kassian play in the same game this coming Sunday.
With Jensen's emergence,Hansen's solid,two-way game and Burr's revival it seems Kassian may be plying 4th line minutes next year.


Did you miss out that Burrows and Jensen have been playing together? Burrows is a natural LW not a RW

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:09 PM

 

The way Kassian is playing right now, he's not a just a sleeper. He's unconscious, and possibly not breathing.

This is one of the funniest things I've ever read on this forum.


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:10 PM

4 yrs @ 2M per. 


That's a lot of money for kass, yes he's looked good on a few played but even our 4th line players look good on the odd play.

I wouldn't sign him more then two years because he could still be a bust, 1.5 tops. One mil one year would be safe.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:13 PM

Did you miss out that Burrows and Jensen have been playing together? Burrows is a natural LW not a RW

With six games experience,I don't think Jensen is quite ready to usurp Daniel on the team's top line.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:19 PM

4 yrs @ 2M per.

If Canucks brass can pull that off, do it asap. I said, as did some others, that Kassian was still a year away at the beginning of the season. Next year he will probably get 20 goals. 24 year old 20 goal power forwards are gold. Gillis should have put him in the minors at the beginning for more seasoning but he had to save face i guess.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:21 PM

Hope we can lock him down for 2-3 years at a low cap hit. 

 

 

My guess is we sign him for 2 years/2 mill per

 if you can make that deal it may look like a steal ...   these big guys take a little longer and if he has the right line mates he may really blossom


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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:24 PM

 

The way Kassian is playing right now, he's not a just a sleeper. He's unconscious, and possibly not breathing.

 

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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:35 PM

You can see his game coming around. His skill set is there. He has a great shot and a very high hockey IQ. He just needs some confidence and better line mates. He is a beast when he gets in that mode. He could be Bertuzzi or Isbister... You just have to wait and see I guess.
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Posted 18 March 2014 - 06:43 PM

That's a lot of money for kass, yes he's looked good on a few played but even our 4th line players look good on the odd play.

I wouldn't sign him more then two years because he could still be a bust, 1.5 tops. One mil one year would be safe.

'Bust' - CDC's favourite word. 

 

I can't name a single one of our 1st/2nd round prospects other than Horvat that haven't been called busts since we got them. 

 

Yup even Hodgson was labeled a bust before he played a single game in the NHL. 

 

Kassian is playing in the NHL and still developing, he's not a bust. 


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