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#1 Outsiders

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:17 PM

Sam Reinhart

 

- B.C Boy (Not that it matters, but they do well for us) 

- Replace's Henrik Sedin

- Great passer see's the ice really well

- Not small 6'1 180ish 

- Shoots right (All our centers and Prospects are lefty execpt of Kesler,Cassels, and Schroeder)

- In prime can get you at least 70-80 points( maybe more depending on who he plays with)

 

Aaron Ekblad

 

- Big 6'4 205ish (good for western conference)

- Shoots right (which is nice along with Hutton,Tanev,Corrado and Subban)

- Shot is really good

- can get you 40 points (maybe more when in his prime)

- solid defender

- could be a Norris Trophy Winner

- can give you big mins (25+)

- Can run the PP

 

Im honestly drawn between the 2. People say you need a #1 D-man to win the cup (which is being talked about in another thread). Or that you need a true #1 center, i feel Horvat is a good 2nd line center, but #1 center may be a stretch.

 

I'd like to here what people on CDC think.

 

I honestly think Linden will try and get this pick. He said that you have just after the draft to renew the season tickets. I personally think he will try and make a splash.

 

 

Thoughts? I don't know who i'd take.

 


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:22 PM

Dmen of Ekblad's calibre do not come around often and are nearly impossible to acquire through trade.

 

Young top 6 forwards on the other hand seem to be traded constantly.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:22 PM

It's honestly a really tough choice. I think it will come down to their 1-on-1 interviews with the clubs (some of the intangibles that may set them apart) and possibly the combine tests. With saying that though, I would be thrilled with either one of those two if we somehow found ourselves selecting 1st overall. 


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:23 PM

Ekblad.

 

Best player available right?


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:40 PM

The forward has always been better than the defenseman.

 

Crosby>J. Johnson

Toews> E. Johnson

Tavares> Hedman

Stamkos> Doughty

Hall> Gudbranson

MacKinnon> Jones (most likely)

 

Aside form Yakupov/Murray, the forward has been the better selection to make.

 

We finished near the bottom of the league in goals for. We finished around the middle in goals against. Why would we want a D-man?

 

Ekblad may have potential, but in lots of cases, defensemen haven't reached their potential. I would definitely rather have Reinhart who will be a 80-90 point franchise center, or at least a 60-70 point first line center. 

 

We need offense. If we somehow trade for the 1st overall pick, we should take Sam Reinhart.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:40 PM

Ekblad.
 
Best player available right?


If that is the case then him 100%

If we had the pick. Don't think that is likely, not sure anything Florida wants that we would be willing to trade for him and NTC waived is always an issue.

Anyone without a NTC that is worth anything should be off limits.
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 02:56 PM

Ekblad.

Go BPA.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 03:01 PM

Reinhart.  We have a strong enough D-Core (when they play up to par) to hold us over in my opinion.  However what we've seriously lacked is some offensive output up front. 

Since he's more of a playmaker I'd say put him with Kesler but two rightys :\ 


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 03:54 PM

Reinhart.  We have a strong enough D-Core (when they play up to par) to hold us over in my opinion.  However what we've seriously lacked is some offensive output up front. 

Since he's more of a playmaker I'd say put him with Kesler but two rightys :\ 

 

Ekblad would be new core. Trade away d-men that are unnecessary for forwards. Voila.

 

Forwards are easier to come by. Get a d thats top notch that every team needs and wants.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:09 PM

What about Bennett? How good is he projected to be? Franchise 1C? 70pt guy? 80pt guy?


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:12 PM

We're actually in better position than most people may think. We have a great relationship with Florida and rumour has it Tallon is drooling over Ehlers and is shopping the #1 pick. Plus we haven't had a defence prospect of Ekblad's calibre ever so he would be extremely tough to pass up on.

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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:18 PM

Ekblad or trade the 1st overall pick and Stanton to EDM for Perron and their 3rd overall pick. Draft either Reinhart or Bennett while ending up with Perron.


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:43 PM

Ekblad or trade the 1st overall pick and Stanton to EDM for Perron and their 3rd overall pick. Draft either Reinhart or Bennett while ending up with Perron.


Good trade but we might have to add Shroeder and /or Hansen to this trade.
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 04:46 PM

I'd take Ekblad because he's too simply good to pass up.
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Posted 03 May 2014 - 07:45 PM

Ekblad so the god damn Oilers wont get him :) 


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Posted 03 May 2014 - 09:52 PM

I voted for Ekblad.  It takes longer for d-men to mature in the show, but when he does, I think he will be a franchise player and one that is very hard to come by.  Reinhart is intelligent and poised, but I don't know if he will be a franchise player.


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 04:46 AM

Ekblad or trade the 1st overall pick and Stanton to EDM for Perron and their 3rd overall pick. Draft either Reinhart or Bennett while ending up with Perron.

I like your thinking


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 06:08 AM

What about Bennett? How good is he projected to be? Franchise 1C? 70pt guy? 80pt guy?

Him and Reinhart have completely different styles, but I think are pretty even. I see Reinhart's game being able to transition into the NHL immediately while Bennett is a 50/50 toss up. Honestly, I think they're still pretty even. Reinhart just fits our needs more. A forward who might be able to almost immediately jump crack the lineup in a potentially top 6 role, and if not top 9 who plays a heavy playmaking style similar to Henriks. That's exactly what we need And come 4 years, when Henrik steps down, we need someone who can almost immediately jump into his spot and try to fill the void while we still look for Daniels. 


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Posted 04 May 2014 - 07:29 AM

What I would like to see Sam Reinhart as he would be nice along with Horvat and Shinkaruk. Also if we keep our 6 pick get either Leon or Jake I see a great young group in a few years.


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 10:37 AM

To me.. it depends on my teams needs. Reinhart will turn into a #1 centre and Ekblad could turn into your franchise defenseman. Ekblad will take longer to show his prime, probably until hes 26-28 whereas a forward will show his upside a few years earlier. 


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Posted 09 June 2014 - 07:56 PM

To me.. it depends on my teams needs. Reinhart will turn into a #1 centre and Ekblad could turn into your franchise defenseman. Ekblad will take longer to show his prime, probably until hes 26-28 whereas a forward will show his upside a few years earlier. 

Ekblad is something of a freak of nature. I'd say he'll be able to slide in quickly just with his defensive play. Similar to Seth Jones. Not the same but similar.
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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:02 AM

The forward has always been better than the defenseman.
 
Crosby>J. Johnson
Toews> E. Johnson
Tavares> Hedman
Stamkos> Doughty
Hall> Gudbranson
MacKinnon> Jones (most likely)
 
Aside form Yakupov/Murray, the forward has been the better selection to make.
 
We finished near the bottom of the league in goals for. We finished around the middle in goals against. Why would we want a D-man?
 
Ekblad may have potential, but in lots of cases, defensemen haven't reached their potential. I would definitely rather have Reinhart who will be a 80-90 point franchise center, or at least a 60-70 point first line center. 
 
We need offense. If we somehow trade for the 1st overall pick, we should take Sam Reinhart.


well for the most part the forward was also considered the better prospect in all those drafts you mentioned

That's the difference this year, very even so its a hard call. I think the only one of the group you mentioned where was even any debate was McKinnon/Jones but even that was more media driven than anything, and the media likes to create a story of 'who goes at number 1'.

There was never any question the McKinnon's skill was beyond anyone else, it was more of Colorado was lacking a big young stud D and Jones dad played bball in Col, (I believe he may have been born there etc etc, hometown boy).

So I don't think your argument holds here, those cases don't really apply, apples and oranges.

Look at 1993, Daigle vs Pronger now that was a debate, but there just haven't been many situations like this, no clear cut number 1

And more importantly, generalizing that a forward has always been better is not a very strong argument simply because its a generalization, every year is different because the players are different, its based on individuals not history, history (Doughty and Stamkos for instance) have no bearing on how Ekblad or Reinhart will perform, they are two different players.
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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:07 AM

 

To me.. it depends on my teams needs. Reinhart will turn into a #1 centre and Ekblad could turn into your franchise defenseman. Ekblad will take longer to show his prime, probably until hes 26-28 whereas a forward will show his upside a few years earlier. 


Exactly, and I do expect that this draft will see a number of surprises from the mid to later picks that could turn into stars.

Most scouts are saying while there isn't much 'elite' talent this year there is still alot of talent in the first round.

Ie it seems like the probability of the first rounders to making the NHL is actually quite high, but their ceilings are seen as lower.

I don't believe in ceilings personally, if a player has the ability to make it, it then comes down to drive, and you can't measure that. That is what separates an average/good player from the great, the drive to improve (Look at Kesler, he had the drive to improve until 2011, when he thought he arrived, then stopped working, and now he's a decent/average NHL'er at 2c, but not a GREAT one, then look at Jagr and Crosby and how they work to stay elite....)

There will be a guy like Ehlers, Nylander, Ritchie, Virtanen, Ho Sang, one of the Russians, etc who wasn't even a discussion of top 5 who will end up being a star, wait and see!
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Posted 10 June 2014 - 04:49 AM

BE BAD FOR EKBLAD
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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:29 AM

wouldn't be suprised if we make Tallon think we're going for Reinhart, and he does us another favour then we pick Ekblad.


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Posted 11 June 2014 - 01:38 AM

one-does-not-simply-ohh-failed-meme-agai replace Henrik Sedin.


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