soshified Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 8 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: You didn't follow that move did you? Garrison stated in Tampa that he moved because he didn't want to stay with a team that didn't want him, so much for not honoring contracts. Going to Tampa at least helped recover the home town 1.5 million/yr discount he took to sign here. Both Garrison and Hamhuis were in the 6 mil a year UFA's, they both took a lot less ditto the Sedins and Kesler and Burrows. Gillis got a few players to sign for home town discounts in exchange for "clauses", those discounts propelled the team to the cup finals. Trade Garrison and say management didn't honour is contract but wants Sedins, Erikson, etc... gone ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Rebuild but don't ask players to waive NTCs. Rebuild should have started years ago but the Sedins are untradeable. No added prospects but Subban and Gaunce equal total farm. The team should have a better record but not add any players through trade or FA. This must be what the 'patience' and 'support' of a rebuild looks like. / Seriously, why is this poster still allowed to make threads? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, theminister said: Rebuild but don't ask players to waive NTCs. Rebuild should have started years ago but the Sedins are untradeable. No added prospects but Subban and Gaunce equal total farm. The team should have a better record but not add any players through trade or FA. This must be what the 'patience' and 'support' of a rebuild looks like. / Seriously, why is this poster still allowed to make threads? Some very implied Gillis support there... TheGuardian = TonyG? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Hutton Wink said: Some very implied Gillis support there... TheGuardian = TonyG? No, Tony is actually erudite regardless of whether you agree with him or not. This poster is just wildly failing because he can't deal with the step back it takes to move forward. Constant blame game and lynch mob mentality. Everyone confronts adversity. Some deal with it better, less reactionarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnarcore Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 This thread reminds me of a: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35Godz1lla Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, Gnarcore said: This thread reminds me of a: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Who likes pie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35Godz1lla Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, oldnews said: Who likes pie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: Who likes pie? Spider-Man and pie thread FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, R35Godz1lla said: Or that Benning not asking certain players to waive their NTC's is exactly what a large portion of the fan base has been crying about for the past 2-3 years. And what were the draft players 2 and 3 years ago? Once he started moving Garrison out he should have approached Bieksa and the Sedins at least to get them ready for the idea. One he did THIS year, it was a signal for the "tank", but of course it is 2 and 3 years too late. 10 minutes ago, R35Godz1lla said: Also, please outline all these horrible contracts and all of the endless cap problems, please I dare you. Vrbata, good player, older but didn't move him in time, also capped out so out of the trade market. Clause contract Miller, good this year but again too much, he didn't want to go anywhere but the west coast so he could have signed for less. Clause contract Dorsett, good energetic team guy, but at almost 3 mil a year. Sbisa, 3.6 mil for a 4/5/6 dman. Sutter, okay 3rd line center on this team 2nd line at 4.375 mil, Clause contract Eriksson....really need to explain again, Clause contract Retained .5 mil on Hansen's contract? why? Screws up the team's ability to retain two. Sedins next TDL maybe. Why double Baertschi's contract? Tanev, very decent priced contract but Clause contract Now cap problems Horvat, how much? Sven numbers? Double? Triple? Selling him a face of the franchise so 5+ mil. Hutton, already add another 2 mil Markstrom goes up 2 mil Miller, who knows, over paid to begin with so lets say around 4+ mil Gudbranson, was at 3.75 mil already, on TV commercials, Tryamkin gone, 5 to 6 mil/season, lots of leverage now. plus whatever increases the other 7 contracts get And if the first pick is good enough to get on the team, possible 3+ mil with bonuses. projected cap space from capfriendly - 16 players signed, 10 more needed 17.6 mil. If Bo and Gudbranson get 10 mil of that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SabreFan1 Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 The thread did get off track pretty fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 One thing I wish you could get over here is a good cornish pasty. The ones in London are unreal. The ones that pass for pasties over here aren't comparable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 16 minutes ago, theminister said: This poster is just wildly failing because he can't deal with the step back it takes to move forward. Constant blame game and lynch mob mentality. Everyone confronts adversity. Some deal with it better, less reactionarily. But so good it feelz. You know, like therapy: feelzing bad? Start another thread and vent so everyone can see. 3 minutes ago, oldnews said: One thing I wish you could get over here is a good cornish pasty. The ones in London are unreal. The ones that pass for pasties over here aren't comparable Same goes for bread in Europe. Here they sell that bland air-filled fluff, whereas bread and baguettes there have real substance you can actually chew... plus flavour! Ever had fish and chips in Falmouth, newspaper and everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, SabreFan1 said: The thread did get off track pretty fast. A little but it is a review of management and their decisions and the ramifications of lack of insight. As far as the minuses, I am now getting attention from media, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 5 minutes ago, oldnews said: One thing I wish you could get over here is a good cornish pasty. The ones in London are unreal. The ones that pass for pasties over here aren't comparable A Cornish pasty is great but it not really a pie, or even a meat pie. It's more of a hot pocket like a calzone. But a good old fashioned shepherds pie made with lamb? That's my jam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R35Godz1lla Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 18 minutes ago, TheGuardian_ said: And what were the draft players 2 and 3 years ago? Once he started moving Garrison out he should have approached Bieksa and the Sedins at least to get them ready for the idea. One he did THIS year, it was a signal for the "tank", but of course it is 2 and 3 years too late. Vrbata, good player, older but didn't move him in time, also capped out so out of the trade market. Clause contract Miller, good this year but again too much, he didn't want to go anywhere but the west coast so he could have signed for less. Clause contract Dorsett, good energetic team guy, but at almost 3 mil a year. Sbisa, 3.6 mil for a 4/5/6 dman. Sutter, okay 3rd line center on this team 2nd line at 4.375 mil, Clause contract Eriksson....really need to explain again, Clause contract Retained .5 mil on Hansen's contract? why? Screws up the team's ability to retain two. Sedins next TDL maybe. Why double Baertschi's contract? Tanev, very decent priced contract but Clause contract Now cap problems Horvat, how much? Sven numbers? Double? Triple? Selling him a face of the franchise so 5+ mil. Hutton, already add another 2 mil Markstrom goes up 2 mil Miller, who knows, over paid to begin with so lets say around 4+ mil Gudbranson, was at 3.75 mil already, on TV commercials, Tryamkin gone, 5 to 6 mil/season, lots of leverage now. plus whatever increases the other 7 contracts get And if the first pick is good enough to get on the team, possible 3+ mil with bonuses. projected cap space from capfriendly - 16 players signed, 10 more needed 17.6 mil. If Bo and Gudbranson get 10 mil of that..... Vrbata - Gone - Moot Point Miller - Most consistent player night in and night out for the last 3 years & we had the space Dorsett - Over payed by maybe 1 mill, but then his contract will expire before we contend again. Sbisa was getting paid very reasonably this year and for the latter half of last year, contracts are going up each year, keep up with trends please. Sutter, not a fancy stat darling but does everything that anyone who has every played hockey loves in a team mate, will help bring rookies along, contract is up right around the time we should be fighting for the playoffs. Eriksson - Eh, 1 year to long 1 mill too much, but that's the cost of a high profile UFA, one that the majority of this board wanted last summer. If he has a resurgence ( Which I feel he can and will have ) to 45/55 points, we wont hear anything about him going forward, like Sutter he does allot of little things that don't make highlight packages. Hansen - Yah, no, Sedins are not going anywhere. That 500k is probably what got the deal done. Baertschi - Why not? What does it hurt the team in the long term? He will earn it next year so really, I say again, why not? Tanev - You are all over Gilli's and his contracts and complain about a very Gilli's esq contract? As far as cap problems go we are not even at the draft yet Benning has the entire summer to make some moves, + expansion draft is coming. What does it matter anyways? We are not looking to sign any UFA's and in 18-19 we are projected right now with 42 Million Dollars of cap space. Chill buddy, it's not like you pay the teams salary. 17 minutes ago, oldnews said: One thing I wish you could get over here is a good cornish pasty. The ones in London are unreal. The ones that pass for pasties over here aren't comparable Aussie meat pies FTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
48MPHSlapShot Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 God I hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGuardian_ Posted April 20, 2017 Author Share Posted April 20, 2017 Just now, Hutton Wink said: 21 minutes ago, theminister said: This poster is just wildly failing because he can't deal with the step back it takes to move forward. Constant blame game and lynch mob mentality. Everyone confronts adversity. Some deal with it better, less reactionarily. The problem is that these guys running the show seem to be on hallucinogenics and are not being proactive but reactive. They can't seem to get anything done or decide what to do. Rebuild, no rebuild, re-tool, no re-tool, players make the decisions for management, see Sedins decision and managements decision not to rebuild while they are here because it is unfair, Linden still says this is not a rebuild, denial somewhere. The team is better than 3 years ago, really? 69 points?, Scoring way down, Goals against up, Key players older, signing little players just for the regular season, did anyone see how Lucic held off Stecher with one hand from the blue line in? Size matters. This is not reactionary on my part, I have been posting this will happen for 4 years now, everyone knows it here. The lack of trying to build a winning team is so evident it is a surprise there are so many fanatics still left. And talk about wagon jumpers, look at past posts, this management group will be dog crap as soon as the next group is hired and all the problems are dumped on them. Just like happened with Gillis and Nonis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattrek Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I see The Guardian is looking to rack up his negatives again. I'm more then willing to help. Another awful post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 9 minutes ago, 48MPHSlapShot said: God I hate you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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