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3 minutes ago, riffraff said:

Apparently a pair of firearms were found so......

These two burned almost all evidence along the way by torching cars, right?  I wonder if they had a big fire going, and one guy shot the other, and tossed the corpse onto the flames?  Then he jumped into the flames himself just before shooting himself.  

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1 hour ago, Shift-4 said:

entry point from behind is also something to consider

still inconclusive tho, one guy could have "helped" the other. Unless there's something like powder burns on the hand or something along those lines dual suicide is a safe bet. 

 

But we'll never know for sure, and really who cares at this point. If I have to see that kids father on the news again i think I'm going to hurl. 

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Another revelation in this story. Apparently Schmegelsky and McLeod left a video, before taking their own lives:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/canada-manhunt-fugitives-recorded-final-video-messages-family-says/ar-AAG3CX7?li=AAggNb9

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A mobile phone with a video shot by Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky could hold the key to why they embarked on a killing spree in Canada.

The two teenagers suspected of killing Australian tourist Lucas Fowler, his US girlfriend Chynna Deese, and Canadian botanist Leonard Dyck, left a “last will and testament” video message, according to the Toronto Star.

Kam McLeod, 19, and Bryer Schmegelsky, 18, apparently recorded the video message on their mobile phones before taking their own lives in remote bushland in northern Manitoba.

About 30 seconds of the video was shared with family members of the former fugitives.

McLeod and Schmegelsky said goodbye to their families in the video and described their wishes for their remains, according to a family member interviewed by the Star.

The video could be the key to explaining why the two teenagers, who weeks before were working at Walmart, became the focus of one of Canada’s biggest manhunts.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) were reportedly in possession of the full video recording.

McLeod and Schmegelsky, from Vancouver Island, were found dead in bushland near Gillam, in the remote northern province of Manitoba, on 7 August.

The RCMP announced on 12 August that autopsies pointed to the teenagers taking their own lives.

Two guns were found with the bodies and were undergoing forensic analysis to determine if they were the weapons used to shoot Fowler, 23, from Sydney, and Deese, 24, from North Carolina on the side of a British Columbia highway on 15 July.

The couple’s Chevrolet van had broken down, leaving them stranded in an area with minimal mobile reception.

McLeod and Schmegelsky were also suspected of killing 64-year-old university botany lecturer Leonard Dyck four days later on another highway in British Colombia.

The teenagers drove Dyck’s Toyota RAV4 3,000km east to Gillam, sparking a massive manhunt that eventually led to the discovery of their bodies.

 

Hopefully there's something on this video that explains why they did what they did and maybe bring some closure to the families of their victims.

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More information: No reasons for their actions, but in the video, McLeod and Schmegelsky admit to murdering Deese, Fowler and Dyck. Police also think that Mcleod shot Schmegelsky and then himself as part of a suicide pact:

 

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/dead-assailants-recorded-videos-taking-responsibility-for-three-bc-murders/ar-AAHX0HN?li=AAggNb9

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Kam McLeod and Bryer Schmegelsky used a digital camera taken from botanist Leonard Dyck to record several videos of themselves taking responsibility for Dyck’s murder, as well as the murders of Chynna Deese and Lucas Fowler, before they died in an apparent suicide pact.

The men expressed no remorse.

That revelation, as well as several other details related to the northern B.C. homicide investigation that gripped the country this summer, was made public Friday by B.C. RCMP.

A 13-page report released traces the path of McLeod and Schmegelsky from July 12, when they left their home in Port Alberni, to July 15, when they shot and killed Deese and Fowler, a young couple on a summer road trip, to July 19, when they shot and killed University of B.C. botany lecturer Dyck.

The botanist’s camera was found near the bodies of the two men, who committed suicide using one of the same guns used in the murders, near Gillam, Man. It’s believed that McLeod shot Schmegelsky and then himself, completing a “suicide pact.”

On the advice of a forensic psychologist, the RCMP will not be releasing the videos in an effort not to sensationalize the men’s actions and “to mitigate the potential of other individuals being inspired by McLeod and Schmegelsky to commit similar acts of violence.”

The report contains other details that hadn’t previously been made public, but it doesn’t provide insight into the men’s motives, saying only that Deese, Fowler and Dyck were killed for “unknown reasons.”

“If in fact there is a motive, it’s gone with the accused,” RCMP Assistant Commissioner Kevin Hackett told reporters following the report’s release.

A search warrant executed at Schmegelsky and McLeod’s residence in Port Alberni found nothing of note regarding “any preplanning of the offences,” said the report.

Police told reporters the young men appeared to act as a “partnership,” as opposed to one being the leader.

They also provided more information about the murders. Deese and Fowler died of multiple gunshot wounds, with some appearing to have come from behind. There was no evidence of sexual assault.

There appeared to be some “escalation” of violence between the two crime scenes.

Dyck was found with injuries to his head and body, including bruises and burn marks. At first, police believed his cause of death was blunt-force trauma, but when the coroner arrived and his body was moved, they found a bullet entry/exit wound. A spent casing was located on the ground.

He remained unidentified until his wife Helen contacted police after seeing a composite sketch of her husband.

A video from a store in Dease Lake showed Schmegelsky and McLeod buying items, including doughnut packages, a Coffee Crisp chocolate bar and two pairs of gloves. Remnants of the items were found near the place Dyck was found, as well as a damaged SIM card belonging to McLeod and his Walmart employee ID card.

On July 22, a witness who knew Schmegelsky and McLeod came forward to tell police he “believed the boys may have been involved in the murders.” It was the first time police learned they may be “capable of the murders which conflicted with original witness statements from family and associates.”

In the videos eventually found with their bodies, the young men said they planned to kill more people and expected to be dead themselves in a week.

Hackett said the men appeared “cold … remorseless, matter-of-fact” in the videos.

The news conference happened three days before what would have been Fowler’s 24th birthday.

The Fowler family posted a letter on their family Facebook page before the news conference Friday, saying they “struggle daily with what happened and fail to understand why.”

Signed by Lucas’s parents and siblings, the note said they wanted to remember him as a fun-loving kid who “grew into a thoughtful adult who cared for his family and friends.”

They asked Lucas’s friends to raise a glass to him and Chynna on his birthday, Sept. 30.

“Obviously it will not be an easy day for us, but it is a day to celebrate a great young man taken from us all far too early.”

On Aug. 7, Schmegelsky and McLeod were found dead in dense brush near Gillam after a manhunt that lasted three weeks and stretched across four provinces. The search for the men began July 23 when police announced they were suspects in the three killings.

The young men from Port Alberni were initially considered missing persons when the truck they were driving was found burned a few kilometres from the place where Dyck’s body was found at a highway pullout July 19.

The bodies of Deese and Fowler had been found several days earlier, on July 15, at the side of the Alaska Highway near Liard Hot Springs.

Various sightings allowed police to track the suspects from B.C. to Saskatchewan and then to Manitoba, where Dyck’s vehicle, a Toyota RAV4, was found on fire near Gillam in late July.

Officers converged on the area to begin what would be a two-week search. Police used drones, dogs and even had help from the Canadian Armed Forces to scour the remote area.

The search was scaled back July 31, and a few days later, a damaged rowboat was found in the Nelson River.

On Aug. 6, police said some items linked to Schmegelsky and McLeod were found on the river’s shore. The bodies were discovered the next day, about a kilometre away.

 

 

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