awalk Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Apparently Bettman is unhappy with Sportsnet over this 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 9 minutes ago, awalk said: Apparently Bettman is unhappy with Sportsnet over this Wow never thought I'd say this ever, but finally something I can actually agree with Bettman on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aqua59 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 23 hours ago, Brad Marchand said: He could have avoided all of this by simply not referring to 'you people that come here'. If you're going to call people out for not wearing poppies, call out everyone. Absolutely. I love what Don has done for hockey over time but he hasn't learned. Don is yesterdays man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, Tortorella's Rant said: "I was talking to a veteran and I said I'm not going to run the poppy thing anymore because what's the sense. I live in Mississauga, nobody wears, very few people wear a poppy. Downtown Toronto - forget it. Nobody wears a poppy." Then of course he also said you people and "you come here." lmao. That's what the problem was - you people - not the fact he was speaking some truths. A war against inconvenient truths in this country - at least when it comes to foreigners or minorities, or etc. And of course it is not to be taken literally because not "nobody" wears a poppy whether natural citizens or not. So it's fine if he dumps on the honky's in Toronto but "you people" is where we're drawing the line. #changemymind The loud minority of idiots put the pressure on and force apologies for misinterpreted statements, and because they get those apologies, they are reaffirmed that they're fighting some form of racism or whatever they think is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 So instead of saying you people he has to address them by every nationality if he wants to talk about them? Or if that's still wrong, really don't know with this society anymore tbh, but then he's not allowed to speak or say anything that addresses them ever? Would that be the moral of the story then, if none are acceptable... If that's the case then your freedom of speech is taken away and that's wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 32 minutes ago, StealthNuck said: Exercising the freedom of choice that our soldiers fought for is disrespectful? There's no need for a visual confirmation that people respect veterans, and nobody should be shamed into it. If someone donates to the legion online but passes on the poppy, are they showing disrespect? If someone loses their poppy in the first hour of Rememberance day, are they seen as disrespectful for the rest of the day? The poppy campaign is great, the proceeds go to a good cause, and it's a great symbol, but it's one small piece of a bigger thing and many people put far too much weight on it. I think we are more or less on the same page really. The talk is getting pretty circular. it’s my freedom to swear around children. It’s my freedom to sit down on a packed bus of seniors. It’s my freedom to smoke next to someone who is eating. etc etc etc. some things ya just do and don’t do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 C'mon enough is enough the guy is 85 YEARS OLD. He's seen more than 99% if not 100% of you people have. I was born & raised right here in this city but my parents weren't. Not being of white colour & born in the 70's. I've seen & been through things this generation has never seen or experienced or ever will. Many racist names called, bullied, told to go back to where I belong, many fist fights etc.etc. etc... I was born here. Guess what I'm still alive & not nearly phased by Mr. Cherry's comments or Trudeau's black face picture like a lot of you are. You know & I know a lot of you did vote Trudeau. Now I know why I don't have twitter or ever wish to get it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 3 hours ago, ReggieBush said: The PC crowd is ruining western civilization, this is coming from someone that up until very recently thought of myself as a socialist. I would not want to have any sort of fame in today's day and age because in order for you not to be ostracized you need to alter your non-radical views. Right now, they're fine with it because they don't like Don Cherry, and that somehow justifies this as okay. Wait till this evolves and the outrage idiots go after everyone. You know, because these Liberals think they're the only moral people in Canada. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ChuckNORRIS4Cup Posted November 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2019 22 hours ago, VanIsleNuckFan said: Has anyone actually watched his "rant" it was nothing. The cancel culture BS is at maximum attack in Canada - let's just put duct tape on everyone. The twitteratti wins again, god save the twitteratti, all hail our outrage overlords. New hire for Coach's Corner 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pears Posted November 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, CoolCanucklehead said: C'mon enough is enough the guy is 85 YEARS OLD. He's seen more than 99% if not 100% of you people have. I was born & raised right here in this city but my parents weren't. Not being of white colour & born in the 70's. I've seen & been through things this generation has never seen or experienced or ever will. Many racist names called, bullied, told to go back to where I belong, many fist fights etc.etc. etc... I was born here. Guess what I'm still alive & not nearly phased by Mr. Cherry's comments or Trudeau's black face picture like a lot of you are. You know & I know a lot of you did vote Trudeau. Now I know why I don't have twitter or ever wish to get it. Again, for the 50,000th time, Trudeau apologized for the blackface crap. Cherry didn’t and that’s why he got canned. Some people in this thread gotta stop acting like this is the only offensive thing he’s said. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, Sandro17 said: I'm having a hard time understanding why Don Cherry's remarks are considered extremely divisive. His points go like this: 1. Canadians should pay respect to fallen soldiers of Canada by wearing the poppy 2. New Canadians (or immigrants) don't wear the poppy 3. New Canadians (Yes even immigrants) should the wear the poppy as well because fallen soldiers have helped them have a better life in Canada Basically all he said was new Canadians should also wear the poppy in memory of Canadian soldiers. Perhaps the insulting remark here is that he comes across as though immigrants are not grateful? If I'm missing something, please tell me. Note: I am Filipino and I'm honestly not insulted at all Edit: In fact it makes me want to wear a poppy in respect. Social Justice Warriors identifying something as potentially racist in their underdeveloped brains. Then using all of their time for activism to make a change happen. They think they're fighting for justice, but they end up ruining lives over misunderstandings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PuckYa Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Pears said: Again, for the 50,000th time, Trudeau apologized for the blackface crap. Cherry didn’t and that’s why he got canned. Some people in this thread gotta stop acting like this is the only offensive thing he’s said. So a fake apology by Trudeau makes him ALL GREAT again... lmao 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 4 minutes ago, Tystick said: Right now, they're fine with it because they don't like Don Cherry, and that somehow justifies this as okay. Wait till this evolves and the outrage idiots go after everyone. You know, because these Liberals think they're the only moral people in Canada. Lol. how do you know that they didn't vote Green? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Just now, CoolCanucklehead said: So a fake apology by Trudeau makes him ALL GREAT again... lmao It’s not fake just because it goes against your narrative 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken. Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 8 minutes ago, riffraff said: I think we are more or less on the same page really. The talk is getting pretty circular. it’s my freedom to swear around children. It’s my freedom to sit down on a packed bus of seniors. It’s my freedom to smoke next to someone who is eating. etc etc etc. some things ya just do and don’t do. I liken it to standing for the national anthem, if you are able, you just do it. and take your hat off. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tystick Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 hour ago, milk and honey said: This x100000 In recent comments he said he meant all Canadians. Nothing wrong with that. Imagine getting offended for people not wearing a poppy and people being referred to as you people I am communist descendant and ya if people say I am communist it's rude. I would just walk away anyhow. If someone said you Europeans had communism and should be thankful for Canadians and the lives lost. I would 10000% agree. Problem is people don't remember or know how bad of a time it was and want to hailed as being right and defending the weak. Wayyyy overblown. That he got fired for you people that wasn't said in a racist term or mean spirited is unbelievable. I hope he gets interviewed by global or ctv soon. I reckon most Canadians stand by his comments regarsless if they like him or not. Now if he would of been fired for his comments about Europeans or French Canadians then that's fine but you people is a disgrace. I really hope this snowflake culture stops in the next generation. It's absolute madness and stupidly to the highest agree. Gen Z is leaning conservative. Should be quite the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post riffraff Posted November 12, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, Chicken. said: I liken it to standing for the national anthem, if you are able, you just do it. and take your hat off. When you and I stand next to a 90 year old vet during a ceremony and he is wearing a poppy and an immaculate suit with so much stoic emotion you can feel it, well, I wasn’t there in 1943 to support him when he lost all his friends but I can damn well do it now by wearing a poppy. Seriously how hard is that to grasp. 3 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUPERTKBD Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I already stated that i think Grapes may have crossed a line with the "you people" bit, but I agree with many stating that it was more of a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing. that one veiled remark shouldn't have been enough to get him fired. That being said, I disagree with everyone who keeps bringing up his age as an excuse for why this move was overdue. Unless you think he has full-on dementia (which I would disagree with) i see no good reason to take someone off the air because they (and by extension, their views) are old. Why is it necessary that we see nothing but current viewpoints? Personally, I think older people offer a lot of insight, even if it is dated. if we aren't aware enough to realize what might be coming from a different generation's viewpoint, that should be on us, not on the person expressing the view. It's going to be a boring world, when all we have left are opinions that conform to society's perceived norm...... 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riffraff Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 1 minute ago, RUPERTKBD said: I already stated that i think Grapes may have crossed a line with the "you people" bit, but I agree with many stating that it was more of a "straw that broke the camel's back" thing. that one veiled remark shouldn't have been enough to get him fired. That being said, I disagree with everyone who keeps bringing up his age as an excuse for why this move was overdue. Unless you think he has full-on dementia (which I would disagree with) i see no good reason to take someone off the air because they (and by extension, their views) are old. Why is it necessary that we see nothing but current viewpoints? Personally, I think older people offer a lot of insight, even if it is dated. if we aren't aware enough to realize what might be coming from a different generation's viewpoint, that should be on us, not on the person expressing the view. It's going to be a boring world, when all we have left are opinions that conform to society's perceived norm...... Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 13 minutes ago, riffraff said: When you and I stand next to a 90 year old vet during a ceremony and he is wearing a poppy and an immaculate suit with so much stoic emotion you can feel it, well, I wasn’t there in 1943 to support him when he lost all his friends but I can damn well do it now by wearing a poppy. Seriously how hard is that to grasp. I don't think anyone would argue this. Its how Cherry chose to deliver the message and who he decided to target it to. And not wanting to change it one iota after. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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