Popular Post -AJ- Posted July 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2020 Hey there all! I had this idea for a new write-up and seeing as it's Canuck-focused I thought some on here might enjoy it, especially seeing as we're all eagerly awaiting the start of the play-ins in August. You can view it here on my site (which has cleaner formatting): https://hookedonhockeyhistory.wordpress.com/2020/07/09/top-10-seasons-for-canuck-goaltenders/ I've also posted it below since I know it can be a hassle to navigate to another site: Quote Top 10 Seasons for Canuck Goaltenders JULY 9, 2020 / ANDREW SCHROEDER Like many teams, the Canucks have had a bit of a volatile history when it comes to goaltending. In the late 90s and early 2000s, they earned the reputation of being a “goalie graveyard” where careers of promising goaltenders went to die, but the following era would entirely change that perspective and the notion would largely die out. One of the difficulties in creating a list like this is the dramatic differences in scoring between eras, with the early and mid 80s being extremely high-scoring and the late 90s and early 2000s, being focused heavily on defense and less on scoring goals. This can make goaltending statistics from the 80s or other offensive eras look far worse than they really were relative to their competition and likewise, players from the low-offense eras look far better than they actually were. This list only concerns regular season results, so playoffs are a non-factor here. For this list, one of the biggest things I did is looked at league average stats at the time and compared the numbers of these goalies in seasons to the league averages, so unfair advantages or disadvantages aren’t applied. The result is a beautiful mix of seasons from all over Canucks history and I’m excited to share it. Honourable Mention: 2019-20 – Jacob Markstrom As of this writing, this regular season has been officially concluded, with the Canucks finishing at 69 games due to the COVID-19 pandemic. in 2019-20, Markstrom had a strong .918 save percentage, which was significantly above the league average of .910 and he was voted the MVP of the Canucks. Honourable Mention: 2011-12 – Cory Schneider I debated between this or Schneider’s 2012-13 season, but despite playing only 33 games, Schneider did set the Canuck save percentage record with .937 that still stands today and will be extremely difficult to beat. Had he been the starter playing more games, this season may have been very high on this list. 10. 1980-81 – Richard Brodeur Immediately, we see some love given to 1980s teams that were more focused on offense. The 1980-81 Canucks were about a league average team when it came to preventing goals, but Brodeur’s .884 save percentage was notably higher than the league average of .876. 1980-81 was Brodeur’s first season in Vancouver and it coincided with a better season and would be the start of long-term stability in net that fans in Vancouver had never seen before. 9. 1973-74 – Gary Smith This one will likely surprise some people, because Smith is most known for his 1974-75 season (we’ll get to that one later), but his 1973-74 season was a very strong one as well. The 1973-74 season was the best in the existence of the Canucks up to that point, but they were still quite a poor team and struggled mightily to help out Smith, letting in the third most goals against in the NHL. Yet despite all that, Smith still managed a save percentage of .894, which was only a hair below the league average of .896, pointing to the fact that Smith did almost all the heavy lifting on defense for the Canucks. On top of all that, he played a whopping 65 games. 8. 2008-09 – Roberto Luongo Photo by Jenelle Schneider Any avid fan will know that Luongo will be appearing on this list multiple times and the 2008-09 is just the first. Luongo’s third year in Vancouver was the first one in which he didn’t play 70+ games, suiting up for only 54 games due to injury. Still, he put up an amazing .920 save percentage, far above the league average .908 and finished both 10th in Hart voting and 4th in Vezina voting. His nine shutouts during that season remain the Canuck single-season record. 7. 2010-11 – Roberto Luongo Statistics alone would point to this year being much higher on this list, but it’s hard to ignore the fact that Luongo had an immense amount of support on the 2010-11 Canucks, as the entire team was extremely dominant, winning the President’s Trophy. Luongo had an astonishing .928 save percentage, playing 60 games and finished 3rd in Vezina voting. Providing credence to the dominance of the team in front of him, Luongo and Schneider shared the William M. Jennings trophy as the Canucks allowed the fewest goals during the season. 6. 1988-89 – Kirk McLean If there is a contender to Luongo’s claim to the throne of greatest Canuck goaltender of all-time, it’s almost certainly McLean and he makes his first entry here. The 1988-89 Canucks astonished the NHL by becoming one of the strongest defensive teams in the league and both McLean and backup Steve Weeks performed incredibly well, with McLean playing more games at 42 games and posting an .891 save percentage, far above the league average .879 in 1988-89. McLean had an impressive four shutouts and his performance was enough to help him finish 3rd in Vezina voting that year. 5. 2007-08 – Roberto Luongo The 2007-08 season exemplified exactly how dependent the late 2000s Canucks were on Luongo for their success. Luongo was having an incredible season, following up his first season in Vancouver when near the end of the year, perhaps due to fatigue (he played 73 games that year), he began to falter. Once Luongo faltered, the whole team faltered and the team missed the playoffs. In those days, Luongo was the best player on the team, and it wasn’t particularly close. He still finished with a .917 save percentage which was far above the league average .909 and finished 7th in Vezina voting. 4. 1981-82 – Richard Brodeur It’s here where I think we begin to find another echelon of seasons. After a strong 1980-81 season, Brodeur took on another level in 1981-82. Brodeur played 52 games as starter for the Canucks and he nearly single-handed managed to turn the team into a strong defensive team. Brodeur was light-years ahead of the league average save percentage with a .893 compared the average of .873. His dominance was only further shown when compared to backup Glen Hanlon, who was far below at .862, making it clear that Brodeur was the reason the Canucks were doing so well defensively. Brodeur finished 6th in Vezina voting that year. 3. 1974-75 – Gary Smith Photo by Denis Brodeur/NHL via Getty Images By some accounts, what Gary Smith did in 1974-75 was perhaps the most impressive season by a Canuck until the arrival of Pavel Bure in the 90s. The Canucks surely benefited from a very favourable division realignment, but nobody expected the Canucks to be as strong as they were and it was clear to all that Smith was a huge part of the reason why. Smith played in a stunning 72 games, winning 32 games, a record that would last for almost 20 years. Smith’s .895 save percentage was above the league average of .890 and for his huge role in the team’s success, finished 6th in Hart voting and 3rd in All-Star Team voting. Smith beat the likes of Dryden, a young Billy Smith, and Tony Esposito in that year’s voting. It’s somewhat a shame he didn’t last as a Canuck for longer, but I suppose that’s what you expect from a guy nicknamed “Suitcase”. 2. 1991-92 – Kirk McLean That 32-win season set by Smith in 1974-75? It was McLean who beat it in 1991-92 with the best season of his NHL career. 25-year old McLean was in the prime of his career as he took the league by storm, leading the NHL with those aforementioned 38 wins and also with his five shutouts. McLean became the first Canuck goaltender to finish with a save percentage above .900 with a .901 save percentage, far above the average of .888. The Canucks were an exceptional defensive team and McLean surely had a huge part to play in that, playing in a career-high 65 games for Vancouver, and leading them confidently to the playoffs. For his efforts McLean finished 4th in Hart voting and 2nd in Vezina voting, losing only to the great Patrick Roy. 1. 2006-07 – Roberto Luongo I’m sure many fans have already guessed this one by now, but it is likely the fairly obvious pick for number one. Roberto Luongo’s first season in Vancouver was his most memorable, as he was the superstar netminder the team had always desired, and they used him, playing him an incredible 76 games during the year. Despite this extraordinarily heavy workload, Luongo still managed a sparkling .921 save percentage, which was hugely ahead of the league average of .905. In part because of his workload, Luongo also manged a incredible 47 wins, which would’ve tied him with Bernie Parent for the NHL record, but as was his luck, Martin Brodeur was having the season of his career too, and would just barely edge out Luongo. Luongo finished 2nd in both Vezina and Hart voting that season, but brought the team back to the playoffs and he won the hearts of Canuck fans, reinvigorating the team for the great years that were to come. 6 3 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodCanadianKideh Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Thanks for writing and posting this. Great idea for an article and really cool to see all the different Canucks jerseys on the goalies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawdzukes Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Great work AJ. Very enjoyable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 Great article AJ. Burning question - will Demko eventually be on this list or....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 (edited) Great work AJ. Still think Lu was robbed in 07. Crazy you finish 2nd in Hart voting & don't win the Vezina. His arrival changed everything. Faced an NHL record 76 shots in his very first playoff game. Canucks had 20 less shots than the Stars yet managed to win. Was a microcosm of his season. Edited July 9, 2020 by Smashian Kassian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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I.Am.Ironman Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 It really isn't close; Luongo is the best goaltender in Canucks history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Good job AJ - always fun to read your write-ups. As of a few years ago hockey historians have gone back and down save percentages right back to 1953....some would be surprised to know the following - which sheds some light on how great the best of the business were back then, and how incredible some of their seasons were compared to the best post Roy. 9/10 pucks were scored along the ice ... drop down every time and cover the posts gives anyone with a modest athletic ability a huge advantage doing the butterfly over stand-up styles and became the great equalizer for less talented athletes and the best got that much better .. it takes a very special type of athlete that could stand up - wear leather pads and cover a much smaller amount of net relative today and post the following gaudy career sp. Start with Roy just for reference .910 66 SO and Hasek .922 sp 81 SO 1. Plante .919 sp 82 SO (1953-73) 2. Dryden .922 sp 46 SO 258-57-74 (in 9 years ... he won 7 individual awards and 6 cups) 3. Parent (as a flyer) .919 sp 4. Esposito .906sp 76 SO virtually the same as Belfour .906sp 76 SO And my personal favourites 6. Johnny Bower .921sp 37 SO starting his NHL career at 33-34.... and Sawchuk no career sp (yet) but you can bet it will come in and blow some socks away. Famously quoted for “you could tie one hand behind his back, throw a handful of rice at him and he’d stop every single one from going in the net”. 103 SO ... in several hundreds of less games then Broduer. Still considered by most the best to ever play the game. Considering the “average” sp didn’t creep up to above .9 until the dead puck era, what the above guys accomplished compared to their peers was simply unreal. Hasek is the most recent modern era goalie that managed the most .... what he did might have been the best six-seven year stretch ever - that said he was helped by the dead puck era .... and what he did wasn’t much different then what Parent and Dryden did in the 70’s either. Sawchuk posted entire playoff series with under 1.00 GAA ... closest thing to that would be the Luongo/Turco showdown in the modern era probably. Would be curious as to where CDCers would rank the best we’ve had all-time compared to the all-time goalie lists ... I’d have Luongo in the mid 20’s....part of that is that no individual hardware/no cups, and make SO losses ties and SO wins ties his gaudy win totals drop significantly compared to his peers ...he definitely was a top five goalie for most of his career...robbed of one Vezina for sure too. But not a top 20 guy. He’s the Joe Thornton of goalies. McLean in the 65 range, Brouder in the 80’s...still top 100 all-time nothing wrong with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 6 hours ago, IBatch said: Good job AJ - always fun to read your write-ups. As of a few years ago hockey historians have gone back and down save percentages right back to 1953....some would be surprised to know the following - which sheds some light on how great the best of the business were back then, and how incredible some of their seasons were compared to the best post Roy. 9/10 pucks were scored along the ice ... drop down every time and cover the posts gives anyone with a modest athletic ability a huge advantage doing the butterfly over stand-up styles and became the great equalizer for less talented athletes and the best got that much better .. it takes a very special type of athlete that could stand up - wear leather pads and cover a much smaller amount of net relative today and post the following gaudy career sp. Start with Roy just for reference .910 66 SO and Hasek .922 sp 81 SO 1. Plante .919 sp 82 SO (1953-73) 2. Dryden .922 sp 46 SO 258-57-74 (in 9 years ... he won 7 individual awards and 6 cups) 3. Parent (as a flyer) .919 sp 4. Esposito .906sp 76 SO virtually the same as Belfour .906sp 76 SO And my personal favourites 6. Johnny Bower .921sp 37 SO starting his NHL career at 33-34.... and Sawchuk no career sp (yet) but you can bet it will come in and blow some socks away. Famously quoted for “you could tie one hand behind his back, throw a handful of rice at him and he’d stop every single one from going in the net”. 103 SO ... in several hundreds of less games then Broduer. Still considered by most the best to ever play the game. Considering the “average” sp didn’t creep up to above .9 until the dead puck era, what the above guys accomplished compared to their peers was simply unreal. Hasek is the most recent modern era goalie that managed the most .... what he did might have been the best six-seven year stretch ever - that said he was helped by the dead puck era .... and what he did wasn’t much different then what Parent and Dryden did in the 70’s either. Sawchuk posted entire playoff series with under 1.00 GAA ... closest thing to that would be the Luongo/Turco showdown in the modern era probably. Would be curious as to where CDCers would rank the best we’ve had all-time compared to the all-time goalie lists ... I’d have Luongo in the mid 20’s....part of that is that no individual hardware/no cups, and make SO losses ties and SO wins ties his gaudy win totals drop significantly compared to his peers ...he definitely was a top five goalie for most of his career...robbed of one Vezina for sure too. But not a top 20 guy. He’s the Joe Thornton of goalies. McLean in the 65 range, Brouder in the 80’s...still top 100 all-time nothing wrong with that. luongo is top 5 to top 10 all time no cup but lost game seven won2 gold medals at olympics silver at world junior 2 golds at world champ one silver and top 3 in all time wins is huge top 9 all time is save percentage 4th if u count the ties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted July 10, 2020 Share Posted July 10, 2020 Just now, canuktravella said: luongo is top 5 to top 10 all time no cup but lost game seven won2 gold medals at olympics silver at world junior 2 golds at world champ one silver and top 3 in all time wins is huge top 9 all time is save percentage 4th if u count the ties he should have won vezina in his career and the hart he got robbed best goalie we ever had 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremyCuddles Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 Not a single Cloutier season, that makes me sad. Lol. I am the rare Cloutier fan. Also still very mad Lu didn't win the Vezina during the 06/07 season. Downright criminal. But I guess when a goalie breaks the single season win record you are borderline obligated to give it to him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-AJ- Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 hours ago, N7Nucks said: Not a single Cloutier season, that makes me sad. Lol. I am the rare Cloutier fan. Also still very mad Lu didn't win the Vezina during the 06/07 season. Downright criminal. But I guess when a goalie breaks the single season win record you are borderline obligated to give it to him. Cloutier's 2003-04 season was probably around 15th, but none of his other seasons were particularly great. Those teams were run by their offense more than goaltending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 On 7/11/2020 at 9:57 AM, N7Nucks said: Not a single Cloutier season, that makes me sad. Lol. I am the rare Cloutier fan. Also still very mad Lu didn't win the Vezina during the 06/07 season. Downright criminal. But I guess when a goalie breaks the single season win record you are borderline obligated to give it to him. I’m a big Clouts fan. I just loved his competitive nature and he made some ridiculous saves from time to time. Honestly he was an average goalie league wide but he wasn’t as terrible as a Canuck as people believe. That .914 save percentage back then was no joke and he was player of the week a couple times if I remember correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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