RowdyCanuck

That's why right now would be a good time for other industries to take advantage of low gas prices but the virus kinda halted that. I got kinda a dumb question.......what other industries show enough promise to surpass oil?....I mean legit industries and not just going green like hippie suggests. It's a good idea but it takes a awhile to build up an industry.......

Propped? Well Canada almosts always falls if oil crashes so props is correct ha be nice if other industries would do a lil more propping.

1982 was a lil before my time and no point crying about spilt milk. I say 08 cause it was the end of the first boom. We had the money to do so. Instead we doubled down on our largest money maker and we built a nice house of cards and we have to make the best choices for the future, we are an oil country and we are already to far down the rabbit hole. Some times you don't have enough or budget enough so you have to burn stacks of money to keep your family warm , for sure if your family keeps growing and it cost more and more. Also some oil companies fund other research.....or money made from oil sales funds other projects...... It's not like there's no funding going to other industries but if oil does well the rest do well, trickle down affect. Like I've stated before oil has a shelve life so we should make all we can before its worthless don't you agree?

No I get it , but thx to oil money the whole of Canada has raised everything thx to it , there for we were already set up to fail..... so you make do with the choices we've made and get everything we can from it. The choices you want should have been started in 08 not now.... so now we need to make all we can and get the most out of oil. Thats the bottom line isn't? Canada made its bed , now time to lay in it.

News flash it's not just Alberta that lives and die by oil , it's all of Canada. Diversify is easier said then done, first you need an real industry not some pipe dream of going green ,this is the real world and you can't just transfer your stock and say done..... have will? No you need industry and investors to even offer that option, people go to the oil for the money and that's it. Also oil is connected to everything..... The farmer growing wheat can't invest more into his farm cause his wells are worthless and that's just one example of the trickle......so it has nothing to do with will cause a lot of people get money from oil but invest in something else..... well I'm all hat and no cattle so let me get this right , but that energy grid will probably let alone take your whole budget and we already have trains so what you want to do is make Canada greener but hate to break it to yea CANADA IS AN OIL COUNTRY. Also you said throw the same amount of money at other industries...you ever ask your self why investors don't do that?....oh that's right cause those other industries don't come near what oil makes.

Okay another simple question..... how do you diversify when oil is such a big earner? also Canada has had how long to diversify ? We live and die by oil right now unless you know another industry that brings billions and also benifits all of Canada like oil does....... Its not that simple. Oil is to big of Canada and nothing we can do about that right now until another industry steps up......

Your right oil is trading at next to nothing but if we could ship more we could off set the loses....look at the dollar tree for example , they buy in bulk and sell for next to nothing but people go there cause it's cheap....same thing for Costco..... Alberta is helping them by approving those pipelines....instead of just handing out money, they are trying to bring back jobs.....old saying give a man a fish he eats for a day , teach a man how to fish......I think you know the rest. You need to think bigger, the pipelines go in that creates jobs and also booms in the towns they go by.....not to mention the trickle down affect..... the reason why the tax payers are paying for it is cause no one wants to invest in a country that doesn't follow threw...... we already took a hit and it's only going to get worse. I would love a world where we weren't dependent on oil but it's our biggest earner , that's just the hand Canada was dealt, so we can either play the hand for all its worth cause if we fold , we are screwed......if we play our cards right we could set our selfs up for the next hand....( oil has a shelve life and you need money to fund research) So how you would deal with it?

That's why you only spread antioil everywhere on this forum.......look threw your posts and they paint a very nice picture.....

As a Canadian we all should be hoping oil prices go up cause then everything else in canada follows suit. I know , you don't care for the oil and gas industry but right now it's the back bone of Canada and we live and die on that mountain as it sits today. If they drag it out , it will hurt us and the USA most of all cause unlike other countries we inflated our selfs. Russia can do what ever it wants cause Putin doesn't put up with much..... so while prices crash it won't be third world countries you watch on the news , it will be Canada......this virus helps buy sometime but we will see how much. this does allow us to push the reset button on how much people should be making in the oil industry and allows us to restructure the oil industry in Canada, without bad press cause everyone is watching something else. Silver lining I guess.

A lot Ranch and farm families do this also so I wouldn't say it's a culture thing. its just putting family first cause if one succeeds they all succeed.

So tram and edler and Hughes and tanev are to soft. Also myers balances edler pretty good and formed a solid second pairing, tram doesn't add Myers skill and Myers can play top four minutes and not look out of place and we have no idea what tram will be like and like I mentioned I think Hughes and tram makes the most sense and edler and Myers can play the hard minutes also just not every night. That gives balance and also rathbone plays a similar game as edler so Myers could be the perfect guy to help get the best out of our prospects. I agree we will have to pay petey and Hughes big but I don't mcdavid money , they want to win more then that.

Okay you buy out Myers who do you replace him with? tree? Well his a leftie and yes tree can play the right side but would be better suited for Hughes. So edler and Myers can take on the more D side. Also tree and woo are the only real threats to Myers cause Myers brings toughness / a lil bit of meanness.

I'm to young to remember those guys so my bad....... but I've watched the seasons of cam neely on vhs cause my uncle loved him ha. That was a long time ago though. To me Captain Kirk is above Lou cause Kirk didn't have the team Lou had.... so on.... also no one remembers second place right.......

What about that cam Neely guy.....drafted a Canuck......

Ha I agree but we are that one piece away from having a legit number one pairing......

I like Dumba but we have Myers and Myers can handle the big guys infront of the net. Dumba would be the perfect guy for edler but edler is getting any younger..... We need a partner for Hughes and dumba isn't that imho.

rather try and trade dumba to the sens for the Sharks pick + prospect cause we don't need a pmd , we need a josh Manson or Shea Weber type. Ship prospect and next years first to the ducks for Manson. Adding the the sharks pick could land us a forward as valuable as Brock or maybe another D man falls to us ha a top top four of hughes Manson edler myers has size and meanness

I agree torts and green as coaches are different but they coach a similar on ice style.. Torts coaches his best when his star players play hard on both sides of the puck and his teams have always had push back and when he came to Van , that was never going to happen with the Sedins as the star players. Green has been learning and growing as a coach which is a good sign but there's been to many games where players just take over and we have lost games earlier in the season due to coaching.( not 100% on green but his D coach and PP/PK coach) sometimes I get flash backs of Willie coaching, with Green's line blender and not making adjustments on the fly( which he has gotten better at) i question a coach that can't come up with a system that gets the most of the guys or atleast benefit the guys......letting 50 shots a night is leaf hockey and we can't win that way. I don't want babcock unless his just joining the coaching staff and is the new D coach ha I like green like you said a big part is getting the guys to buy in and he has done that , I agree though we have to wait until atleast after next season to see if Green is our guy or not. I think this summer Jim will fine tune the team and Green better get ready to say hello to his new coaching staff. also imho I think babs is overrated.....rather have torts, but I think torts only really works for younger teams or teams where their top guys play a 200ft game and torts has a shelve life though.

A buddy sent me this and the guy actually made some sense......forgive me buddy forgot to tell me his an anime troll.......lol

Thing is Jim isn't gillis...... Jim can afford to make trades like that cause he can restock the pipeline..... also look down the road..... VP won't be here for one more season and hoglander might be ready next season or he ends up in the ahl , the list goes on and that's not touching on the guys we will draft in the next couple drafts..... I think this draft Jim will do something big.....kinda like the oilers when they traded hall..... I think Jim will go after a mean stay at home d man for Hughes cause tanev is to soft.....also adding some real toughness wouldn't be a bad thing no more pests please ha jim has the pieces to do something....... for sure with our winger depth...... so dont worry we arnt going back to the dark days ha

Imho torts was the right coach but we got him at the wrong time...... funny thing is Green coaches a similar style to torts..... for a coach to work everything has to line up, a lot of things come into play. Green has the room and from interviews I've heard his saying the right things, I think the D coach has to go, maybe even the special teams coach too. We've already proved we won't be like the oilers or Buffalo and continue to suck but get better year in and year out, Jim has seen to that. Next season Green will be on the hot seat and for good reason but none of us knew how good we would be this season and their for green gets a pass......

If it was a whole b.c thing then the whole province would pay mark up but that's not true....... supply and demand..... how did I change history?....

What's wrong , simple cowboy making sense .......

I know that's not 100% true unless grants are Feds.......I can honestly say I don't know a whole lot between the two in b.c

Still, they can only blame themselves , it's not like the rest of Canada had a hand in it........