ccc44 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Well im pretty such Hodgson and Grabner were preforming well with limited ice time, and im pretty sure Schneider being outstanding in the AHL had very little to do with AV, and I've have spoken about this before and gave pretty good points as to why AV didn't develop these players. I just don't feel like trying to find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Honestly, if I was EDM I'd trade my first overall to TBL for the 10th and 19th pick and maybe an early 2nd rd pick or prospect if necessary. Then draft Griffin Reinhart and Ludvik Bystrom or Slater Koekkoek for my D core. EDM drafting Murray honestly makes no sense. They currently have 5 Dmen on one-way contracts( Whitney, Smid, Sutton, Schultz and Potter) and have to re-sign Petry and Peckham. Granted there D isn't stellar but if they re-sign Petry and Peckham that'll be 7 D-men on one-ways and thats not include Teubert and maybe Taylor Fedun pushing for a spot which is a waste of cap space and the returns they would get from any d trades would be minimal cause they know EDm needs to get rid of them to make space in the lineup. They could also just keep the pik and draft Yakupov, then theyd have a top 6 of Hall-RNH-Yakupov paajarvu-Gagner-Eberle Which to me looks pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOMapleLaughs Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Because Columbus has so much success with Russians... Then again, does Edmonton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklasjensen46 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 makes sence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Kesler,Edler,Hansen and Shneider are doing just fine under AV are they not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 A high end dman is exactly what there missing and who says Murray plays next season in the NHL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucklax Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 IMO, Murray isn't high-end. He lacks elite offensive-skills and looks more like a good two-way player at the NHL-level. And if the Oilers aren't planning to rush him, why not trade him for two first round picks and maybe a prospect in the top 20 that still builds your D and gives you two good defenders for your future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Just because he may not ne flashy doesn't mean he's not high end. Many people compare him to niedermayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bingo Chili Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Gillis grab that columbus' pick! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaNuCkSLoUiE23 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 I see Sam Gagner being involved if a trade happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Kesler,Edler,Hansen and Shneider are doing just fine under AV are they not ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Wow, I can guess of who you think of late at night based on all that love. I don't see him as either the future captain or face of the team, maybe if he could ever stay healthy he could be. For now Nuge is the face of the team, followed by eberle. Of their young 3 (hall, nuge, eberle) I would say he's actually the first to be traded of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kack Zassian Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 So Edmonton gets their future captain in Ryan Murray, and their Trevor Linden/Brendan Morrow heart and soul leader type in Boone Jenner and Columbus gets a Russian that they've had no luck with, and a diminutive third line Swede? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tortorella's Rant Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Columbus would be stupid to actually give up anything for the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Future captain is a very bold statement to make about an undrafted player... Boone Jenner is probably more likely a Troy Brouwer player.. The Linden comparrison is pretty off. Your writing off Russians as a whole because they had a draft bust? What if Rick Nash had been a bust? Should they have avoided drafting Canadians? Jenner is a slighly better prospect than Omark which is the difference between pick #1 and 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted May 26, 2012 Share Posted May 26, 2012 Maybe Columbus should trade Nash to Edmonton for their first overall pick. Then Columbus can draft Grigorenko and Yakupov and we can all watch in horror as Columbus destroys their development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greene02 Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Maybe Columbus should trade Nash to Edmonton for their first overall pick. Then Columbus can draft Grigorenko and Yakupov and we can all watch in horror as Columbus destroys their development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 So is Dumba. Extremely. He's 6'0" 173lbs - unless he adds +30lbs and grows a couple inches, he won't be able to translate his hard hitting shutdown game to the NHL because the forwards are much bigger and faster and stronger here. He might be able to dominate the juniors, but his style of play requires him to be one of the bigger guys, and he wouldn't be that in the NHL. I'd go with Griffin Reinhart, Morgan Rielly, Cody Ceci or Olli Maatta. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHL rocks Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 Just because he may not ne flashy doesn't mean he's not high end. Many people compare him to niedermayer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phamda Posted May 27, 2012 Share Posted May 27, 2012 He's still a teenager. Like everyone else he will gain weight as he matures into an adult. There is no way Dumba drops that much. It's hard finding Dmen of his ilk. I think Dumba will be the 2nd Dman taken behind Murray. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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