bleednucksblue Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 5 mil left after acquiring dubinsky and parise. Traded loungo straight up for shenn, abviously we could get more. Kept malhotra and alberts just to see how cap would look with them on the team. CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) Zach Parise ($6.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / DEFENSEMEN Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m) Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($3.500m) Eddie Lack ($0.900m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,545,000; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,755,000 Thats a pretty big top 6. D is sturdy, but could use some help. Lack probably needs more time in the ahl. We could still make some moves to upgrade the D. Even if we cant get Parise we could get other players from UFA for his spot. Thats with a cap of 70 mil but it fits, barely. If we remove malhotra and alberts that could still fit in a 68 mil cap hit we could still sign somebody for some defensive depth or get another top 6 dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If we helped Minny sign Parise by taking Clutterbuck,NYR get Nash by taking Dubinsky,and Dallas rebuild by taking Ott we'd have the potential for a 1000 hit line.Clutterbuck-Dubinsky-Ott LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jester13 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Booth for Dubinsky? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KicKassian Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If we helped Minny sign Parise by taking Clutterbuck,NYR get Nash by taking Dubinsky,and Dallas rebuild by taking Ott we'd have the potential for a 1000 hit line.Clutterbuck-Dubinsky-Ott LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 NYR clearly don't need a goalie so MG would be a god to pull something like this off: Raymond and our 1st for Dubinsky. Believe it or not, Dubinsky scored 10 goals and 34 points in 77 games last season, which is worse than Raymond's pace after coming off a 50 point season. He's basically a grittier Mason Raymond in terms of development. Going into the playoffs we have this beast of a team: Sedin - Sedin - Burrows Booth - Kesler - Higgins Kassian - Dubinsky - Hansen Bitz - Malhotra - Lapierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I would send a christmas card to MG every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoreyPerry Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 For those saying Dubinsky is too expensive to be a third line centre: 1. Someone needs to play second line centre while Kes is injured. 2. Dubinsky is versatile, can play the wing. 3. The Penguins won a Stanley Cup with J. Staal as their 3rd line centre, and he was a 4 mil cap hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Some serious overpayment proposals in this thread. If they aren't willing to take any salary, then they are in a serious position of weakness/salary dump - might give them a 2nd round pick - tops. The Rangers have a lot of guys who can play center - Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, Boyle, and Rupp in addition to Dubinsky, and regardless of cap hit, those guys are probably all considered as valuable as Dubinsky. We have a center who had Dubinsky numbers last year - Lapierre: 9 goals and 244 hits - Dubinsky: 10 goals and 207 hits. Lapierre at 1 million, Dubinsky at 4.2. Lapierre hit a bit more, Dubinsky did have 15 more assists - but if the Rangers want to move that contract, I'd offer a 3rd to start and perhaps move up to a second. If someone else wants to overpay, fine - the Canucks will be fine without Dubinsky (lots of young possibilities with the likely moves on the horizon) - the Rangers need to move him. The pick can be recovered in another move. Would rather pay a little more for Clutterbuck, but would be much harder to pry away from Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 FYI. Dubinsky's productivity goes up in physical games not down like Raymond's. If we play a skill series then the Sedins will kill you. If we have a grinding series then Dubinsky would become all of our new favourite player. Seems like a great fit to me. Some serious overpayment proposals in this thread. If they aren't willing to take any salary, then they are in a serious position of weakness/salary dump - might give them a 2nd round pick - tops. The Rangers have a lot of guys who can play center - Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, Boyle, and Rupp in addition to Dubinsky, and regardless of cap hit, those guys are probably all considered as valuable as Dubinsky. We have a center who had Dubinsky numbers last year - Lapierre: 9 goals and 244 hits - Dubinsky: 10 goals and 207 hits.  Lapierre at 1 million, Dubinsky at 4.2.  Lapierre hit a bit more, Dubinsky did have 15 more assists - but if the Rangers want to move that contract, I'd offer a 3rd to start and perhaps move up to a second.  If someone else wants to overpay, fine - the Canucks will be fine without Dubinsky (lots of young possibilities with the likely moves on the horizon) - the Rangers need to move him. The pick can be recovered in another move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KicKassian Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Some serious overpayment proposals in this thread. If they aren't willing to take any salary, then they are in a serious position of weakness/salary dump - might give them a 2nd round pick - tops. The Rangers have a lot of guys who can play center - Richards, Stepan, Anisimov, Boyle, and Rupp in addition to Dubinsky, and regardless of cap hit, those guys are probably all considered as valuable as Dubinsky. We have a center who had Dubinsky numbers last year - Lapierre: 9 goals and 244 hits - Dubinsky: 10 goals and 207 hits. Lapierre at 1 million, Dubinsky at 4.2. Lapierre hit a bit more, Dubinsky did have 15 more assists - but if the Rangers want to move that contract, I'd offer a 3rd to start and perhaps move up to a second. If someone else wants to overpay, fine - the Canucks will be fine without Dubinsky (lots of young possibilities with the likely moves on the horizon) - the Rangers need to move him. The pick can be recovered in another move. Would rather pay a little more for Clutterbuck, but would be much harder to pry away from Minnesota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 5 mil left after acquiring dubinsky and parise. Traded loungo straight up for shenn, abviously we could get more. Kept malhotra and alberts just to see how cap would look with them on the team. CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER My Custom Lineup FORWARDS Daniel Sedin ($6.100m) / Henrik Sedin ($6.100m) / Alexandre Burrows ($2.000m) Zach Parise ($6.000m) / Ryan Kesler ($5.000m) / David Booth ($4.250m) Chris Higgins ($1.900m) / Brandon Dubinsky ($4.200m) / Jannik Hansen ($1.350m) Aaron Volpatti ($0.600m) / Maxim Lapierre ($1.000m) / Zack Kassian ($0.870m) Manny Malhotra ($2.500m) / DEFENSEMEN Kevin Bieksa ($4.600m) / Dan Hamhuis ($4.500m) Alexander Edler ($3.250m) / Luke Schenn ($3.600m) Keith Ballard ($4.200m) / Chris Tanev ($0.900m) Andrew Alberts ($1.225m) / GOALTENDERS Cory Schneider ($3.500m) Eddie Lack ($0.900m) ------ CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter) (these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion) SALARY CAP: $70,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $68,545,000; BONUSES: $0 CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $1,755,000 Thats a pretty big top 6. D is sturdy, but could use some help. Lack probably needs more time in the ahl. We could still make some moves to upgrade the D. Even if we cant get Parise we could get other players from UFA for his spot. Thats with a cap of 70 mil but it fits, barely. If we remove malhotra and alberts that could still fit in a 68 mil cap hit we could still sign somebody for some defensive depth or get another top 6 dman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 A better and more skilled version of Shawn Matthias, wouldve been a good acquisition even though I hate his personality Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleednucksblue Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 FYI. Dubinsky's productivity goes up in physical games not down like Raymond's. If we play a skill series then the Sedins will kill you. If we have a grinding series then Dubinsky would become all of our new favourite player. Seems like a great fit to me. Yes but there will be 20 teams bidding on him. He won't be cheap. Like JVR he would be the major piece in a deal for Nash or Weber. If it happens it will be a miracle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButterBean Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 IF true...then I am seriously starting to worry about GM MG... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trelane42 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The cap for next year ain't gone be anywhere near 70 million once the dust settles on the labor dispute front. If the players take goes from 57% to something like 52% it will be closer to to the present cap limit of 64 million. Meaning cap space will again be at premium and even it the Luango trade brings very little salary back it will still leave us with only about 4-5 million to spend on 1 marquee player. I like Dubinsky but I'm not sure he is that guy. Schultz's bonuses, should MG score in getting him, will also eat up a lot of space. If I'm MG I'd be working some furious at dumping Raymond, Malhotra (not sure how given his NTC), and even Ballard if AV persists in not using him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Dubinsky would not be the major piece to a deal for either of those players because of his price tag and lack of production. Makes no sense as guys like Kreider and Del Zotto are younger, cheaper, and likely more productive options in a deal for those superstars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Shirokov Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 This is interesting. MG has been trying to acquire this guy for a long time. I believe there were reports a few yrs back when MG first got here he was trying really hard. I think he could probably be had for a few picks. He'd definitely solidify our centre ice position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkoshack Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 This is old news. The Canucks have tried for years to trade for him to no avail. But this was when he had a lower cap hit. Now that he's making 4.2mill I doubt they're interested in that for 3rd line C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sedin's 6th Sense Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Something tells me Gillis knows something. Like perhaps New York is close to acquiring Nash, but need to unload some salary. Just like the trade for Ehrhoff. San Jose wanted Heatley and we got Ehrhoff for practicaly nothing. If Gillis can get Dubinsky for some mid range prospects like Sweatt and Sauve, I'd be down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theminister Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 If the NYR trade Dubinsky to us to acquire Nash that's a lot of turnover for a very good squad last year. / edit: unless it's Schneider to the Rags so they can acquire Nash from the Bluejackets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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