aliboy Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Whatever clarity Gillis had, concerning this team when he was hired, is now long gone. He can't see the forest through the trees at this point. We can't draft and we can't trade, makes it pretty tough to get ahead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Agree, but fire them both. MG: "We want to get bigger! GRRRRR! TRADE HODGSON!" <Acquires 5'9 Derek Roy and Andrew Abbett> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Interesting. Pretty much commented the exact same thing a few days ago in one the idiotic "fire/trade everyone" doomsday threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I say fire AV, give Gillis 1 more year. But if Gillis does indeed get fired along with AV I wouldn't be too happy but I would understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Been saying for awhile Gillis needed to go , his first few years he made good choices but the past few have been nothing but bad choices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuretoMogilny Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 i liked it. if it was up to me Gillis would be first on the chopping block. go canucks go the fat lady hasnt sung yet, but she's gettin' ready in the green room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I hate how people keep saying it's the end of an era. How is 4 years an era? Cause really that's all it's been since we have been a top team with a chance to win the cup. And to say that we have no future because the cupboard is bare is ignorant. Not enough fans or media even know about our prospects cause they don't bother following them. Pretty much if they're not top 5 picks nobody talks about them. And then guys like Tanev and Corrado come out of nowhere, and it just goes to show that the media really doesn't know anything about these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snolan Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It is the end of the era (and it was a good one I will miss it). I do believe mis-management of assets led to this sharp demise. There should be a cleaning this spring and a short re-tool/build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 It seems that AV has a penchant for taking gifted offensive players and turning them into hesitant plugs .. well done, AV .. well done indeed .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccc44 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 No respect whatsoever for this kind of blame game. And Cole completely lost me at calling Roy a "Smurf" - it's one thing for posters on CDC to use those kind of denigrations, but a "journalist" imo who needs to resort to that kind of cheap name calling is pretty pathetic. In case he never noticed all three of the other Canuck centers, Henrik, Kesler and Lapierre, are all 6'2" and a combined weigh in at about 600lbs... Roy was one hell of an acquisition. The Canucks could have used an additional center with a shutdown and faceoff specialist edge, but it's easier said than done to snatch one at a reasonable price. Anyhow nothing makes me laugh more than suggestions that the team is done, the era is over, the window is closed. The same thing's been said about San Jose, for a few years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 AV sounds like Boudreau when he was done with the Caps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrazyAL Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Not a huge AV fan but will defend him a bit he gets way to much heat from the fans, MG is totally the guy that should be fired and regardless AV is gone with him anyway. AV works with the team he is given, it's the GM's job to find the right mix, the writing was on the wall last season they needed scoring wingers, they needed a center, they needed to trade a goalie, those are the top 3 things they needed to address before the season started instead MG went out and landed another 4.5mil dman! signed Raymond for scoring and had no center and a 5million dollar back up. Plus everyone knew Ballard would get limited ice time so right there before the season even starts you have 9.5 mil tied up in assets you don't need plus no center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gustavo Fring Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 You made your bed, now sleep in it Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trebreh Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 He likes handing out these NTC like candies too, im afraid of what he will do in the offseason. He needs to go ASAP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 The truth sometimes sucks but every point he made is correct and true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCammer Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 No respect whatsoever for this kind of blame game. And Cole completely lost me at calling Roy a "Smurf" - it's one thing for posters on CDC to use those kind of denigrations, but a "journalist" imo who needs to resort to that kind of cheap name calling is pretty pathetic. In case he never noticed all three of the other Canuck centers, Henrik, Kesler and Lapierre, are all 6'2" and a combined weigh in at about 600lbs... Roy was one hell of an acquisition. The Canucks could have used an additional center with a shutdown and faceoff specialist edge, but it's easier said than done to snatch one at a reasonable price. Anyhow nothing makes me laugh more than suggestions that the team is done, the era is over, the window is closed. The same thing's been said about San Jose, for a few years running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I hate how people keep saying it's the end of an era. How is 4 years an era? Cause really that's all it's been since we have been a top team with a chance to win the cup. And to say that we have no future because the cupboard is bare is ignorant. Not enough fans or media even know about our prospects cause they don't bother following them. Pretty much if they're not top 5 picks nobody talks about them. And then guys like Tanev and Corrado come out of nowhere, and it just goes to show that the media really doesn't know anything about these guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Picking up Roy was much better than Keith Carney, eric Weinrich and Mikka Noronen moves of our previous GM. I swear the media and fans in this town don't deserve a successful team. Everything gets torn apart. I don't drink the Canuck kool-aid but i don't fire every one or trade everyone the minute we hit a rough patch. Gillis is as responsible as Av for the current state of affairs but I think its' pretty premature to talk firing. There will be changes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilduce39 Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 I've had this thought a few times this season... the roster just isn't good enough to be part of the "elite" - good enough to make the playoffs and with some bounces and stellar goal tending they might have made a run - but by no means favorites to go anywhere. That being said, I won't be surprised if they let AV go this offseason, but you'd be a fool to expect a cup run just because Lindy Ruff is at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostViking Posted May 7, 2013 Share Posted May 7, 2013 Gillis has done a terrific job, he just doesn't seem to be much of a hockey guy. Odd since he played himself once upon a time. He would have made a fantastic President or Asst GM or would have fit in great somewhere else in the front office, but I am starting to feel it is very important to keep him away from hockey related decisions. Everything else, the guy is gold, he is as good as it gets. I think AV has also done a terrific job, but as has been mentioned, after 7 years things get stale. Its time for him to move on, better for him, better for the Canucks. He will have a lot of success as an NHL coach for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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