Kryten Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 If he plays mean, a few inches won't matter. Look at the difference between Ballard (5'11") and Edler (6'3"). Edler is scared of everyone whereas Ballard dropped the gloves with Perry, Backes, Fraser and Big Bert. Jordan Subban looks like he plays with more of an edge than some offensive d-men I've seen, if he does get a growth spurt, all the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Can you name one in the last 10 years? Can you name 10 in the last 10 years? The game has changed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFrame14 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Is everyone overlooking the fact that he scored 51 points this season, at 18 years of age? If he was 2 inches taller he would have been selected in the 1st round. It's a fourth round pick, I for one am very happy to see what he can do! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonfruits Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Actually, my comment was sarcastic. In a way you hit the nail on the head though. This team doesn't need a "short" defense man, 8 inches taller would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Couldn't agree more. No risk high reward. Has two older brothers to lean on for advice on what it takes to be a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your New Coach Mr. Tippett Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Is Subban really 5'9" or is he Schroeder 5'9", ie 5'6.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karlsson`s Flo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 there isn't exactly a plethora of 6'4 defenceman in the nhl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Is Subban really 5'9" or is he Schroeder 5'9", ie 5'6.5" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apollo Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I seriously would have PAID to see your reaction of ginger boy getting traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 1.Boston Bruins in the 2013 Stanley Cup Finals iced a rookie d man with the name of Torey Krug. 5'9" 2.St.Louis Blues Kris Russell NHL player since 2007 5'10" 3.Detroit Red Wings Brian Rafalski.Retired last year.11 seasons played. NHL All -Star NHL All Rookie Team 3 Cups 5'10" 4.Detroit Red Wings Ian White NHL player since 2005 5'10" 5.Philadelphia Flyers Kimo Tomonen NHL Player since 1991 5 time NHL All Star 5' 10" 6.Winnipeg Jets Tobias Enstrom NHL player since 2007 NHL All Star NHL All Rookie Team 5'10" 7.San Jose Sharks Dan Boyle NHL player since 1999 NHL All Star Stanley Cup Winner 5'11" Top of my head list and I could go searching for you but you can do that if you like. The game is always changing and players get bigger,faster and stronger but good and even great NHL d men are not all tall in height . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 And then there's everybody else... http://www.thehockey...om/?page_id=982 So...you say he's not being hired for his defense but for offense skills? Here's the top 20 scoring defense man in the NHL this past season: 1 P.K. Subban MTL 42 11 27 38 6'0" 2 Kris Letang PIT 35 5 33 38 6'0" 3 Ryan Suter MIN 48 4 28 32 6'1" 4 Andrei Markov MTL 48 10 20 30 6'0" 5 Keith Yandle PHX 48 10 20 30 6'1" 6 Niklas Kronwall DET 48 5 24 29 6'0" 7 Kimmo Timonen PHI 45 5 24 29 5'10" 8 Cody Franson TOR 45 4 25 29 6'5" 9 Shea Weber NSH 48 9 19 28 6'4" 10 Dion Phaneuf TOR 48 9 19 28 6'3" 11 Dustin Byfuglien WPG 43 8 20 28 6'5" 12 Brian Campbell FLA 48 8 19 27 5'10" 13 Justin Schultz EDM 48 8 19 27 6'2" 14 Mark Streit NYI 48 6 21 27 5'11" 15 Duncan Keith CHI 47 3 24 27 6'1" 16 Sergei Gonchar OTT 45 3 24 27 6'2" 17 Alex Goligoski DAL 47 3 24 27 5'11" 18 Mike Green WSH 35 12 14 26 6'1" 19 Slava Voynov LAK 48 6 19 25 6'0" 20 Francois Beauchemin ANA 48 6 18 24 6'1" Only 4 out of 20 less than 6 feet - not one is 5'9" like Subban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiasedCarrot Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Valarie bure and other Kariya Paul s brother. I was talking about brothers of big name players we tried in past not Paul Kariya and pavel bure themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kragar Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Even if he is going to play in the NHL, as a D-man, it won't be for about 5 years. We all know they take more time to develop than forwards. With improved training, he will put on some weight, and as many of you have already said, he likely will grow a few inches as well. Give the kid some time. I'd like to see what a skilled player who has grown up in the shadow of his bigger, older brothers can do. A nice chip on the shoulder can be a good piece of motivation. I don't spend the time enough to know how good the other players available at the time are, but taking a flyer pick at this point, in someone that has a lot of skill, and might grow in to a "normal" sized D, is well worth it. Chances are, there will be 3rd, 4th, and 5th rounders that outperform some of the 1st rounders. Does that make every GM an idiot for not drafting in the right order? Drafting your future players isn't science. You look at what you need, and what value there is to be had with the pick you have. The whole draft is a crap-shoot. There are enough 1st round busts out there, even in NFL and NBA, to know there are no guarantees. You just do your best to scout out the right players for your team, work hard to develop them, and cross your fingers. I'm just glad we have a potential high-skill player in the mix that we won't have to overpay for to get on the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFastOne21 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Maybe he'll turn out like Lubomir Visnovsky.....Fantastic PP/OFD guy that can be responsible albeit non physical defensively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Ok, so of all top scoring d men in the NHL, 20% are under 6 feet tall. How many of those turned 18 years old a couple of months ago? How many of those top scoring d men you listed grew one,two or three inches -or more-from the time they were 17 or 18 years old ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The real answer is his older brother is an NHL All Star and Norris winner and Jordan has plenty of time to gain a couple of inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 The real answer is his older brother is an NHL All Star and Norris winner and Jordan has plenty of time to gain a couple of inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuck nit Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I find it interesting that the Canucks chose Patrick White 25th overall in the 2007 entry draft while Montreal chose PK in the second round at #43 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insomniac604 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 PK had a lot of great things to say about his personality. People drop a lot of spots these days due to size. He's young and has great mentors in his family. Give him a couple of years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashian Kassian Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I find it interesting that the Canucks chose Patrick White 25th overall in the 2007 entry draft while Montreal chose PK in the second round at #43 overall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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