BI3KSA- Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 what can he be blamed for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 ok, well then by that rational every other team in the NHL who has performed poorly and been booed in their stadium should have star players with hurt feelings then too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckfan85 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 http://m.theglobeand...?service=mobile It was Wednesday, April 3, 2013. The NHL trading deadline had come and gone, and hockey agent Gilles Lupien was sitting in Montreal, watching his star client talk to the cameras in Vancouver. For 19 years, Lupien had represented Roberto Luongo. He had guided the Vancouver Canucks goaltender's every move from the time Lupien, a former NHL player himself, took a wide-eyed 15-year-old Luongo to an NHL entry draft just so the youngster could get a taste of what might one day be possible for him. Lupien had been sitting with Luongo and his parents – Antonio and Pasqualina – in Pittsburgh in 1997 when the then 18-year-old goalie went fourth overall to the New York Islanders. He had been with him through trades to the Florida Panthers and, in 2006, to the Vancouver Canucks. And he had been right beside him, of course, when Roberto Luongo signed that 12-year $64-million (U.S.) deal that would take the goalie right through to the 2021-22 season, at which point he would be 43 years old and could look back on what everyone then believed would be a Hockey Hall of Fame career. With luck, he would have a Stanley Cup ring or two to go with the Olympic gold medal he helped Canada win in the 2010 Vancouver Winter Games. But now, here was Luongo, on the eve of turning just 34, telling the world: "My contract sucks." Lupien started laughing. He laughed and he laughed. And then, first opportunity, he phoned Luongo and laughed again, both of them. "Roberto," Lupien told his star client, "you just said what [Canucks general manager Mike] Gillis has been saying all along!" Gillis had indeed been saying it, couched in different words, for some time. The Canucks had tried, and failed, to trade their former captain and, for years, No. 1 goaltender. The media had been saying the contract was the problem, the fans had come to believe so, and the one to blame, obviously, had to be the player who signed the deal. "Every team knows your contract," Lupien told Luongo. "It's not your contract that's the problem – it's what they're asking for." Unable to make the trade he wanted, Gillis had shifted to other drastic measures. He fired coach Alain Vigneault and brought in a coach notorious for slagging his own players in the media, John Tortorella. He dealt the goalie widely presumed to be the Canucks' new No. 1, Cory Schneider, to the New Jersey Devils for the ninth pick in the June draft, which he then used to take a centre, Bo Horvat of the London Knights. He announced that the goaltender of the future Canucks is, once again, Roberto Luongo. This week Lupien and Luongo spoke again on the telephone. There was no laughter this time, but no tears, either. Luongo, 34, with nine years and $40.5-million remaining on a legally binding contract, was switching agents. Lupien was fired, J.P. Barry and Pat Brisson of CAA Sports were taking over. "I was shocked," Lupien says. "But I understood, too. "He said, 'Gilles, I want to take a new path – what do you think?' Maybe another guy they'd listen." The conversation threw Lupien back nearly 20 years. After Lupien's own NHL career (five seasons with Montreal Canadiens, Pittsburgh Penguins and Hartford Whalers) ended, he had slowly built himself into a significant players' agent. An early client was journeyman goaltender Jean-Claude Bergeron, who had brief stints in Montreal, Tampa Bay and Los Angeles. It fell to Lupien to let Bergeron know that he had made the calls but no one was interested. It was over. "You're like a doctor telling me I'm going to die," Bergeron told Lupien. "We've tried all the treatments and nothing is working. Well, I'm going to see another doctor, try another pill. I need hope – do you understand, Gilles?" Lupien did, and does again. "How can I be mad?" Lupien says. "I really do understand. Roberto has a lot of guts. He was telling me 'I need a new message. I need new hope.'" Lupien himself has new hope out of this – hope that the soap opera that has become Roberto Luongo and the Vancouver Canucks might soon finally be over. "I played on a team [Montreal] with nine Hockey Hall of Famers," he says. "I've never seen a star treated like that. I think personally he's been treated like a piece of paper, a fourth-line player." Lupien believes that in being so public for so long about the possibilities of a trade, the team undermined its own player. The media turned on Luongo, the fans turned on him, and there was no escape. He was like "a cornered rat," Lupien says. "I'm in net," Lupien says of the goaltender he considers almost a son. "There's a guy at the red line with the puck and the fans start to boo me. The people aren't behind you. The newspapers aren't behind you. But you have to stop the puck. "It's not like a forward who can pass the puck when people start to boo. It's not like a fourth liner who only gets out every once in a while. You have to stop every puck or else." "It's almost impossible for him to perform under those circumstances." Lupien says it could have been handled differently. A decade ago in Montreal, he says, then GM Bob Gainey called out those who were ripping Canadiens defenceman Patrice Brisebois, calling them "gutless bastards" and saying "We don't need those people – we don't want those people." "In Vancouver," Lupien says, "they didn't say a word." The fired agent says he understands the business, both from Gillis's point of view and from Luongo's, but he feels strongly that there was never any need for such drawn-out drama and angst over the possibility of a trade. "It's okay to say you're going to trade someone," he says, " but then trade him. If I want to sell my car, and I want to get a good price for it, I don't say my car is always in the garage. There's something wrong with it. No one will want to buy it. You either say your car is the best car you ever had – or you say nothing." The same day the hockey world learned that Lupien had been let go, Luongo learned that he was one of five goalies invited to the Team Canada orientation camp in late August. Lupien will have a client there – Corey Crawford of the Stanley-Cup-winning Chicago Blackhawks – but he will still be cheering for the client who fired him. He wants to see Luongo back at the Olympics. "Just to show them how good he is." RoyMacG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Yea the fans weren't booing the whole team, they were just booing Luongo... I don't get what is so hard to understand about this. When you have the people you're busting your hump for treat you like crap and throw you under the bus and tell you that your'e not good enough, you might find it hard to perform as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cigano Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 The contract. He is just as much to blame as Gillis and Luongo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 if i was getting paid 6.7 million a year i wouldnt give a crap what people said, especally if i was getting pay to do my favorite job. He knew what he was getting into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I disagree 100%. The contract was designed by Gillis to lower our cap hit, he offered it, Lu had final say he accept it. Lu and his agent did not hold him hostage. If they forced the GM into a bad contract for the Organization, more proof of how bad of a GM Gillis is. Gillis said it is "unlikely" Lu is here next season not too long ago, pretty much assuring Lu gets traded. He didn't move him. All on Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentfortyfour Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Now is it just me or has GMMG said in the past he left all on ice decisions to the coach, this would include which goalie to play each night then right? So maybe coach AV had a lot to blame with the Luongo soap opera, and the whole flip a coin BS. How much of this was his fault. Maybe with him gone and a clear number one and two goalie we can eliminate that whole distraction and Luo can just play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbal23 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 No I'm pretty sure you would give a crap especially if you know that other people would be more than happy to have you and pay you even more money to do your job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 This. I don't get why people are tipy toeing around the main issue that it wouldn't have got to this point without just cause. It's not like the coaching staff woke up one morning and decided their franchise goalie wasn't fit to carry Corys jockstrap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hahaha was driving and typing on my phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I disagree 100%. The contract was designed by Gillis to lower our cap hit, he offered it, Lu had final say he accept it. Lu and his agent did not hold him hostage. If they forced the GM into a bad contract for the Organization, more proof of how bad of a GM Gillis is. Gillis said it is "unlikely" Lu is here next season not too long ago, pretty much assuring Lu gets traded. He didn't move him. All on Gillis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
messier's_elbow Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 If Luongo holds out we should rebuild, but should Gillis be the man to do it? Meh. BTW I dont think Lu will hold out. He likes money, and I bet his wife just adores it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bissurnette Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 I didn't know you were an expert about my life and how I feel about being paid to do what I love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 This is a joke right? Lupien is a joke. That was the funniest article I've ever read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angry Goose Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Hey Luo- no one said professional sports was going to be easy. Hey MG- no one said managing a professional hockey team was going to be easy. Case closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 That's funny, I don't recall the fans booing Luongo. And of course Lupien doesn't want to admit that the anchor contract was the problem-he negotiated it. But nobody wanted any part of that contract. It was obvious from the beginning of the whole process.b Bobby was never going anywhere. He was being naive in the extreme to get his hopes up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 Yea the fans weren't booing the whole team, they were just booing Luongo... I don't get what is so hard to understand about this. When you have the people you're busting your hump for treat you like crap and throw you under the bus and tell you that your'e not good enough, you might find it hard to perform as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonberries Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 There may have been a light smattering of boos on nights when his play sucked, but the fans never really got on him. Lupien is full of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amish Rake Fighter Posted July 26, 2013 Share Posted July 26, 2013 zxb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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