Boudrias Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Buddy of mine knew Trotz back in Dauphin, Manitoba. Nothing but good things to say about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Hiring Trotz is a no brainer. Fire Torts today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Nooo way. He's a great coach but not the coach we need. We need Tortorella. He actually cares and he brings emotion. We need thatHe brings too much emotion and despite his promises when hired can't contain that emotion which results in embarassing out bursts and undisciplined play by players following his lead. Trotz if you ever watched him on the bench is an emotional guy but he keeps that emotion in check enough to be level headed when needed and win the respect of his players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 He brings too much emotion and despite his promises when hired can't contain that emotion which results in embarassing out bursts and undisciplined play by players following his lead. Trotz if you ever watched him on the bench is an emotional guy but he keeps that emotion in check enough to be level headed when needed and win the respect of his players. Too much emotion isnt possible. You want emotion. I think he's a great coach. He actually cares. Too much maybe but that's way better then not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Langdon Algur Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 Too much emotion isnt possible. You want emotion. I think he's a great coach. He actually cares. Too much maybe but that's way better then not enough.The Canucks horrible play after he lost against Calgary say's too much emotion (as in unable to control yourself and lead your team with a level head) is possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 The Canucks horrible play after he lost against Calgary say's too much emotion (as in unable to control yourself and lead your team with a level head) is possible. I disagree, I think that's a coincidence. The players should be pumped up from that. Especially if they are pissed off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K. Chesterton Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 Benning and Trotz! Make it happen Linden! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Marchand Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 The Canucks horrible play after he lost against Calgary say's too much emotion (as in unable to control yourself and lead your team with a level head) is possible. The Canucks were blowing chunks well before that. They had 1 win in the entire month before that game. They won 3 of 4 until losing 7 straight after that. His 15-day suspension had more to do with the team's total meltdown than the tantrum itself. The players were even praising Torts after that game. None of their post-game interviews suggested that he lost the room at that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dasein Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 I heard Trotz wouldn't leave Nashville to coach another team, and would just stay in the city. I don't have sources though. Can't remember where I heard it - I think TSN. Wouldn't be surprised if Trotz doesn't return to hockey immediately - make a year or two hiatus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vladimirpuck Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Fire Torts, hire Trotz! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldnews Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 I heard Trotz wouldn't leave Nashville to coach another team, and would just stay in the city. I don't have sources though. Can't remember where I heard it - I think TSN. Wouldn't be surprised if Trotz doesn't return to hockey immediately - make a year or two hiatus. "I'm just sitting and watching and Im just hoping that the right situation would come around where I would be a candidate." "I welcome any challenge in the NHL and that doesnt scare me at all. Ive never been scared of a Canadian market even when I was younger and more naive. Maybe 10 years ago I would say I was ready, but probably wasnt, but a lot of water has gone under the bridge and Ive dealt with a lot of markets on both sides of the border. I understand the media. I get it. Im prepared for anything and thats what experience brings you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millerdraft Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 OK, first coaching candidate right there. The only reason they won any games was because of his coaching. The question is whether he would be able or willing to coach a more uptempo style if he had the players to do so. I'm all for Trotz if he can implement a higher scoring puck possession system into the Canucks. Real classy guy, would be good for the Canuck's image as well. Would be a great coach but we don't need a defensive style coach again There's already two threads on this in General Hockey. But no, Trots is a good coach but I'm not sure he's right for our team. As much as he hasn't had a lot to work with he hasn't had a lot of success either and we need someone that can coax more offence out of our team (even if we might benefit from the defensive upgrade). People who label Tortz with a 'defensive' style don't seem to know much about the circumstance of what he had to deal with in Nashville. Your race car anology is great. Problem Tortz had to deal with was other teams steeling the tires off his car every off season. Top that with ownership saying he could only have so much gas to run a 500 mile race. Beauty of Tortz is he is a western Canadian who already knows what it takes to play in the West. As others have said, Trotz had very little to work with in terms of player personnel, he also was able to get a lot out of players who for lack of a better word...suck. Martin Erat: 58 points in 71gp in 2011-2012 Sergei Kostitsyn: 50 points 77 gp, Martin Erat 50 points in 64 gp 2010-2011 J.P Dumont: 65 points in 82gp 2008-2009 2007-2008 season two players had 72 point seasons, Jason Arnott and J.P Dumont, also Radulov had 58 points in his 2nd year as a pro. The caliber of players he was given throughout his tenure was, modest to say the least. Outside of Radulov he never had any dynamic top 6 player, look at Chicago, they have 4 of those players and they average around 70-80 points each. Trotz was able to get 60-70 point seasons from plugs like Erat, Dumont. Yes he does emply a defensive minded style of hockey, but I don't believe it's a defense first at all costs mentallity. It's also hard to argue against him being one of the top coaches in the world...if you have a chance of employing one of those coaches, I think you jump on it. I doubt anyone really thinks this team is going to challange for the cup next year, if anything, we'll be fighting desperately just for a playoff spot, would it not be worth it to take a chance on a coach of this caliber to see what he can bring to the table? One more upside of Trotz, he is more than willing to play young players, and seems to develop them quite well. Hornqvist, Smith, Wilson, Jones, Ellis, Jarnkrok, Radulov. As for true top end talent, when the Preds had Kariya, he put up 85 point and 76 point seasons in his two years with them...those are offensive numbers. Wonder what he would do with this offense. And if he could salvage our defensive group. Couldn't do any worse than torts But I think this hire will be the last chance for this core. Important hire. Just like the GM 10th in '05/'06: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20052006&gameType=2&viewName=goalsFor 5th in '06/'07: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20062007&gameType=2&viewName=goalsFor 12th in '07/'08: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20072008&gameType=2&viewName=goalsFor 8th in '11/'12: http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.htm?season=20112012&gameType=2&viewName=goalsFor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 If there`s anyone that can get through to Edler, it's Trotz. Look what he's done in Nashville with all their good young D-men. His calm approach is exactly what Edler could use IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Got a feeling Trotz will sign in Washington. Bring in a defensive system which the players will need to ever be a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownUndaCanuck Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 I'd be happy to play a boring Trotz brand of hockey if it meant we'd win games. We've lost all the skill we once had and now have a team full of plugs and grinders, with a solid blueline and good young goalies - VERY similar to Nashville's playoff teams of old, with a couple of veteran leaders who can score 1 or 2 goals to break a tight game open. All due respect to Tortorella but his style hasn't fit in Vancouver at all. Our team is better suited to Trotz. Either make trades to fit Tortorella's fast opportunistic offence from forechecking with quicker, more skilled forwards or give in and match our current team easily to Trotz's style of play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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