ISS/CS Draft Rankings - 2014 NHL Entry Draft

[theminister]

Is 6 years enough time to tell accuracy?

2008 ISS Final Rankings

Name Pos Birthdate S/C Ht. Wt. Team League

1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/1990 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL

2 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/1990 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL

3 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/1990 R 6.00 172 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi

4 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/1989 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL

5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/1990 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL

6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/1989 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL

7 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/1989 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL

8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/1989 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.

9 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/1990 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL

10 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/1989 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL

11 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/1990 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL

12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/1989 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL

13 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/1990 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL

14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/1990 L 5.10 176 HV71 SweJE

15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/1990 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL

16 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/1990 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL

17 Petrov, Kirill LW 4/13/1990 L 6.03 198 Kazan RusDi

18 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/1990 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL

19 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/1990 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL

20 Dalpe, Zac C 11/1/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Penticton BCHL

21 Carlson, John RD 1/10/1990 R 6.02.2 212 Indiana USHL

22 Karlsson, Erik RD 5/31/1990 R 5.11 165 V. Frolunda SweJE

23 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/1990 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL

24 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/1990 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi

25 Deschamps, Nicolas C 1/6/1990 L 6.00.2 173 Chicoutimi QMJHL

26 Trivino, Corey C 1/12/1990 L 6.01 170 Stouffville OPJHL

27 Toews, David LW 6/7/1990 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS

28 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/1990 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL

29 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/1990 L 5.09.5 157 Roseau MN-HS

30 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/1990 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10401/iss_top302008_prospects_final/

[theminister]

How about 7 years?

2007 FINAL ISS RANKINGS: JUNE

1 Kane, Patrick RW 11/19/1988 L 5.09.5 160 London OHL

2 vanRiemsdyk, James LW 5/4/1989 L 6.03 200 USA Under-18 NTDP

3 Turris, Kyle C 8/14/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Burnaby BCHL

4 Cherepanov, Alexei RW 1/15/1989 L 6.00 183 Omsk RusE

5 Voracek, Jakub RW 8/15/1989 L 6.01.5 187 Halifax QMJHL

6 Alzner, Karl LD 9/24/1988 L 6.02 206 Calgary WHL

7 Gagner, Sam C 8/10/1989 R 5.11 191 London OHL

8. Mayorov, Maxim LW 3/26/1989 L 6.02 187 Leninogorsk RusS

9 Ellerby, Keaton LD 11/5/1988 L 6.04.5 186 Kamloops WHL

10 Backlund, Mikael C 3/17/1989 L 6.00 194 Vasteras SweAl

11 Esposito, Angelo C 2/20/1989 L 6.01 180 Quebec QMJHL

12 Gillies, Colto C 2/12/1989 L 6.03.5 189 Saskatoon WHL

13 Couture, Logan C 3/28/1989 L 6.00.5 195 Ottawa OHL

14 Petrecki, Nicholas LD 7/11/1989 L 6.03 213 Omaha USHL

15 Perron, David RW 5/28/1988 R 5.11.5 180 Lewiston QMJHL

16 Hamill, Zach C 9/23/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Everett WHL

17 Hickey, Thomas LD 2/8/1989 L 5.11 182 Seattle WHL

18 Eller, Lars LW 5/8/1989 L 6.00 198 V. Frolunda SweJE

19 McDonagh, Ryan LD 6/13/1989 L 6.01 200 Cretin-Derham USHSW

20 Blum, Jon RD 1/30/1989 R 6.00.5 160 Vancouver WHL

21 MacLean, Brett LW 12/24/198 R 6.01.5 196 Oshawa OHL

22 O'Brien, Jim C 1/29/1989 R 6.02 184 Minnesota WCHA

23 White, Pat C 1/20/1989 R 6.00.5 186 Grand Rapids USHSW

24 MacMillan, Logan 7/5/1989 L 6.01 172 Halifax QMJHL

25 Moller, Oscar RW 1/22/1989 R 5.11 179 Chilliwack WHL

26 Repik, Michal RW 12/31/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Vancouver WHL

27 Shattenkirk, Kevin RD 1/29/1989 R 5.11 193 USA Under-18 NTDP

28 Plante, Alex RD 5/9/1989 R 6.03.5 225 Calgary WHL

29 Cross, Tommy LD 9/12/1989 L6.03 195 Westminster USHSE

30 Sutter, Brandon c 2/14/1989 R 6.03 170 Red Deer WHL

[ForsbergTheGreat]

How about 7 years?

2007 FINAL ISS RANKINGS: JUNE

1 Kane, Patrick RW 11/19/1988 L 5.09.5 160 London OHL

2 vanRiemsdyk, James LW 5/4/1989 L 6.03 200 USA Under-18 NTDP

3 Turris, Kyle C 8/14/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Burnaby BCHL

4 Cherepanov, Alexei RW 1/15/1989 L 6.00 183 Omsk RusE

5 Voracek, Jakub RW 8/15/1989 L 6.01.5 187 Halifax QMJHL

6 Alzner, Karl LD 9/24/1988 L 6.02 206 Calgary WHL

7 Gagner, Sam C 8/10/1989 R 5.11 191 London OHL

8. Mayorov, Maxim LW 3/26/1989 L 6.02 187 Leninogorsk RusS

9 Ellerby, Keaton LD 11/5/1988 L 6.04.5 186 Kamloops WHL

10 Backlund, Mikael C 3/17/1989 L 6.00 194 Vasteras SweAl

11 Esposito, Angelo C 2/20/1989 L 6.01 180 Quebec QMJHL

12 Gillies, Colto C 2/12/1989 L 6.03.5 189 Saskatoon WHL

13 Couture, Logan C 3/28/1989 L 6.00.5 195 Ottawa OHL

14 Petrecki, Nicholas LD 7/11/1989 L 6.03 213 Omaha USHL

15 Perron, David RW 5/28/1988 R 5.11.5 180 Lewiston QMJHL

16 Hamill, Zach C 9/23/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Everett WHL

17 Hickey, Thomas LD 2/8/1989 L 5.11 182 Seattle WHL

18 Eller, Lars LW 5/8/1989 L 6.00 198 V. Frolunda SweJE

19 McDonagh, Ryan LD 6/13/1989 L 6.01 200 Cretin-Derham USHSW

20 Blum, Jon RD 1/30/1989 R 6.00.5 160 Vancouver WHL

21 MacLean, Brett LW 12/24/198 R 6.01.5 196 Oshawa OHL

22 O'Brien, Jim C 1/29/1989 R 6.02 184 Minnesota WCHA

23 White, Pat C 1/20/1989 R 6.00.5 186 Grand Rapids USHSW

24 MacMillan, Logan 7/5/1989 L 6.01 172 Halifax QMJHL

25 Moller, Oscar RW 1/22/1989 R 5.11 179 Chilliwack WHL

26 Repik, Michal RW 12/31/1988 R 5.10.5 180 Vancouver WHL

27 Shattenkirk, Kevin RD 1/29/1989 R 5.11 193 USA Under-18 NTDP

28 Plante, Alex RD 5/9/1989 R 6.03.5 225 Calgary WHL

29 Cross, Tommy LD 9/12/1989 L6.03 195 Westminster USHSE

30 Sutter, Brandon c 2/14/1989 R 6.03 170 Red Deer WHL

Imagine how good NYR's would be with Cherepanov on their roster. That kid was going to be a star

[Absent Canuck]

Kind of does. Where a player gets drafted is a hell of a lot less important than how good of a player they'll be.

That is a completely different dicussion. This thread is about the ISS rankings. This discussion is about how accurate the ISS draft rankings are.

If you want to tangent into something else, then start another thread.

The 'it doesnt matter where a player is drafted but only how good he is' thread.

That kind of discussion would tend to be fairly vague and subjective. By all means, have at it.

[Absent Canuck]

This is well thought out.

[Absent Canuck]

Is 6 years enough time to tell accuracy?

2008 ISS Final Rankings

Name Pos Birthdate S/C Ht. Wt. Team League

1 Stamkos, Steven C 2/7/1990 R 5.11.7 176 Sarnia OHL

2 Bogosian, Zach RD 7/15/1990 R 6.02 197 Peterborough OHL

3 Filatov, Nikita LW 5/25/1990 R 6.00 172 Moscow CSKA-2 RusDi

4 Doughty, Drew RD 12/8/1989 R 6.00.5 219 Guelph OHL

5 Pietrangelo, Alex RD 1/18/1990 R 6.03.2 206 Niagara OHL

6 Schenn, Luke RD 11/2/1989 R 6.02.2 216 Kelowna WHL

7 Boedker, Mikkel LW 12/16/1989 L 5.11.2 195 Kitchener OHL

8 Wilson, Colin (Fr.) C 10/20/1989 L 6.01 215 Boston Univ H.E.

9 Hodgson, Cody C 2/18/1990 R 5.11.5 185 Brampton OHL

10 Bailey, Joshua C 10/2/1989 L 6.00.5 188 Windsor OHL

11 Sbisa, Luca LD 1/30/1990 L 6.01.7 190 Lethbridge WHL

12 Boychuk, Zac C 10/4/1989 L 5.09.5 175 Lethbridge WHL

13 Beach, Kyle C 1/13/1990 R 6.03 203 Everett WHL

14 Tedenby, Mattias LW 2/21/1990 L 5.10 176 HV71 SweJE

15 Myers, Tyler RD 2/1/1990 R 6.07.2 204 Kelowna WHL

16 Colborne, Joe LW 1/30/1990 L 6.05 190 Camrose AJHL

17 Petrov, Kirill LW 4/13/1990 L 6.03 198 Kazan RusDi

18 Teubert, Colten RD 3/8/1990 R 6.03.5 185 Regina WHL

19 Robak, Colby LD 4/24/1990 L 6.03 194 Brandon WHL

20 Dalpe, Zac C 11/1/1989 R 6.00.5 170 Penticton BCHL

21 Carlson, John RD 1/10/1990 R 6.02.2 212 Indiana USHL

22 Karlsson, Erik RD 5/31/1990 R 5.11 165 V. Frolunda SweJE

23 Del Zotto, Michael LD 6/24/1990 L 5.11.7 211 Oshawa OHL

24 Grachev, Evgeny C 2/21/1990 R 6.03 202 Yaroslavl RusDi

25 Deschamps, Nicolas C 1/6/1990 L 6.00.2 173 Chicoutimi QMJHL

26 Trivino, Corey C 1/12/1990 L 6.01 170 Stouffville OPJHL

27 Toews, David LW 6/7/1990 R 5.10 175 Shattuck-St. MN-HS

28 Nemisz, Greg C 6/5/1990 R 6.03 197 Windsor OHL

29 Ness, Aaron LD 5/18/1990 L 5.09.5 157 Roseau MN-HS

30 Eberle, Jordan C 5/15/1990 R 5.10 174 Regina WHL

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/articles/10401/iss_top302008_prospects_final/

Predicting draft orders is a difficult business .

Hey look. There is your hero Mr Beach. The guy you claimed in hindsight you wouldnt draft until the third round.

[theminister]

Predicting draft orders is a difficult business .

Hey look. There is your hero Mr Beach. The guy you claimed in hindsight you wouldnt draft until the third round.

Please go back to ignoring me.

Thanks.

[aGENT]

That is a completely different dicussion. This thread is about the ISS rankings. This discussion is about how accurate the ISS draft rankings are.

If you want to tangent into something else, then start another thread.

The 'it doesnt matter where a player is drafted but only how good he is' thread. : :D

That kind of discussion would tend to be fairly vague and subjective. By all means, have at it.

Sure there Lennie.

[wshdrvvn]

you guys seriously need to lay off the draft threads. you've ruined each one thats popped up.

[Absent Canuck]

So Perlini gets 1 assist in 7 playoff games this year and people are interested in this at #6???? Sorry, I want guys that are at their best when the games matter.

I think the issue with Perlini is the inconsistency. He is loaded with talent but last year his totals were non existent . If there is one top prospect who is a complete question mark its Perlini in my opinion. He could end up an all star or in the ECHL.

[Rey]

you guys seriously need to lay off the draft threads. you've ruined each one thats popped up.

you guys seriously need to lay off the draft threads. you've ruined each one thats popped up.

Its okay. Absent Canuck just ko-ed everyone by posting in this thread. Everyone has gotten confused, and don't even know what to say.

How is the hell does projecting the NHL draft order, have to do with anything? Rankings are based on who the scouts think, will be a better player. It's not a damn mock draft. What Absent Canuck says defies logic. Complete mindblow.

There's no reason for anyone to continue. Good Game.

[Herberts Vasiljevs]

I know it's not a popular opinion on here, but one of the prospects I want the Canucks to draft at 6 is Fabbri.

Not many people in 2012 expected Hampus Lindholm to go as high as #6, but he did anyways and it's payed dividends for the Ducks.

Fabbri reminds me a lot off Gallagher on Montreal. He's not the biggest, but he plays the type of game you need to win in the playoffs. I'd much rather have smaller guys who are excellent forecheckers as opposed to big players like Rick Nash who play a perimeter game come. That what wins you playoff games, not this apparent myth that you only win in the playoffs entirely with size.

A centre with 1st/2nd line upside would make us very strong up the middle in prospects. Who knows, we may very well pick the second player in a row to win the OHL MVP

My top-10 rankings are:

Reinhart

Bennett

Ekblad

Nylander

Dal Colle

Draisaitl

Fabbri

Ehlers

Virtanen

Ritchie

After looking at the 2010 draft list that was accidentally revealed, organizational choices are much different than consensus pick from the likes of TSN. I could see Fabbri around 6/7 on some teams lists quite honestly.

[shiznak]

So Perlini gets 1 assist in 7 playoff games this year and people are interested in this at #6???? Sorry, I want guys that are at their best when the games matter.

Niagara was a terrible team, this year. 11 games under .500, yet they still made the playoffs and took North Bay to 7 games. I don think one single player stood out offensively.

When Perlini isn't scoring, he does all the little things to get the win.

[DollarAndADream]

However, ISS has a better track record. No one cares about, where they go in the draft. It's all about, who will be better. That's why ISS is on everything. That's why, your point is meaningless.

You got some odd comma placements.

[Canuck Surfer]

What is everyone's current thought on Julius Honka?

During the year I heard early 2knd round, then as high as 10 or 11? Summary of opinion by memory was 17.

Worth us trading to get a pick in this range?

[UFCanuck]

You got some odd comma placements.

What are, you talking about? That's how, everyone talks.

[motzaburger]

What is everyone's current thought on Julius Honka?

During the year I heard early 2knd round, then as high as 10 or 11? Summary of opinion by memory was 17.

Worth us trading to get a pick in this range?

I think if he doesnt get picked in the first round then he will go shortly in the 2nd. Seems to me he is rated a little farther back than some would think. Id like to snag him in the 2nd round for sure. That or Demko (#1 rated Goalie). We need some young goalies in our system.

[DeltaSwede]

I know it's not a popular opinion on here, but one of the prospects I want the Canucks to draft at 6 is Fabbri.

Not many people in 2012 expected Hampus Lindholm to go as high as #6, but he did anyways and it's payed dividends for the Ducks.

Fabbri reminds me a lot off Gallagher on Montreal. He's not the biggest, but he plays the type of game you need to win in the playoffs. I'd much rather have smaller guys who are excellent forecheckers as opposed to big players like Rick Nash who play a perimeter game come. That what wins you playoff games, not this apparent myth that you only win in the playoffs entirely with size.

A centre with 1st/2nd line upside would make us very strong up the middle in prospects. Who knows, we may very well pick the second player in a row to win the OHL MVP

My top-10 rankings are:

Reinhart

Bennett

Ekblad

Nylander

Dal Colle

Draisaitl

Fabbri

Ehlers

Virtanen

Ritchie

After looking at the 2010 draft list that was accidentally revealed, organizational choices are much different than consensus pick from the likes of TSN. I could see Fabbri around 6/7 on some teams lists quite honestly.

Don't get me wrong now, I really like Fabbri as well. The thing is, it would be a waste to pick him at six because he could be had later on in the first round. I think it would be fair to predict that the Canucks will trade for a second first round pick in this draft. New GM coming in, new President in place, both need to make a name for themselves and often newly appointed management make deals. This means that the Canucks have the chance to pick a very talented prospect at #6 and then pick Fabbri with the second first round pick. I think that would make a lot of sense because I do think there is risk surrounding Fabbris development. Safe pick at #6, high risk - high reward pick at #18-#24.

Come out of the first round with one of the picks ranked #3-#12 and Fabbri.

Great start for new management.

[riske1]

If anyone cares to read a few profies regarding Alex Tuch they might find him very interesting. Character plus kid. I like what I have read about him, however never personally seen him play. Doesnt seem like he has any poor attributes. He will be 6-4 220+ player. My pick.

[Gyllenhaal]

I think it would be wise to draft Thatcher Demko or any other goalie in this draft with our second or third pick. Lack is 26 and our 3 other goalies are 24, so by the time Demko or another goalie is entering the AHL those guys will be entering there prime.