JohnScott Posted July 4, 2014 Author Share Posted July 4, 2014 Pretty good but i got a feeling that Shinkaruk has the possibility of becoming a first liner. My dream for shinkaruk: Become an elite scoring winger. Me too. That's why I gave him a '+'. It means that he could become one. Shinkaruk+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glory_Days Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Good list, a minus sign would have been cool to show where some players might end up if they don't meet, let alone exceed expectations, but with the format laid out as it is, that would just be cumbersome. Basically I just want a bunch of - - - added to Dane Fox I do feel he has a huge outside shot of being a 2nd liner, I'll reiterate, HUGE outside shot, with possibility of being a decent 3rd/4th liner, or he ends up being horrible and not even worthy of an NHL spot. I'm still glad we took the chance on Fox though, signing that didn't cost us anything, and if at the very least all he does is help our Utica depth for the next couple of years, still a good signing. I think Eriksson could have a +, think he has an outside shot of being an NHL starter, maybe not with us...not sure if list is limited to their potential as a whole, or potential within Canucks organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred65 Posted July 4, 2014 Share Posted July 4, 2014 Although I can't recall his name but a recent Leaf signing bought himself out from a KHL contract...I believe the figure was $500K. Vcr will look at Tryamkin at the prospects camp to get a handle on his skill level and you would have to think if he shows well $500K is not going to get between them and adding a defenseman to the roster...it would be cheap at twice the price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeanBeef Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 Still no Friesen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnScott Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 [uPDATE] Added Friesen (http://www.eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=31568) and the "minus" option "- = PLAYER COULD MOVE DOWN ONE RANKING" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saucypass Posted July 5, 2014 Share Posted July 5, 2014 I think Markstom can have a - AND a + because I believe he still has the potential to become a starter or even an elite starter one day. But there is also a high risk that he could end up being a depth goalie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnScott Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share Posted July 5, 2014 [uPDATE] Gave Markstrom a "+ -" Added "+ -" feature: "+ - = PLAYER COULD MOVE UP OR DOWN ONE RANKING" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter.S-Kerouac Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Subban and Forsling could use a bump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tangerines Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Point being... I think McCann sould have ++. I have a feeling he is going to pass Horvat on the depth chart. My crystal ball tells me he will rip it up next year. We might have Toews lite here ladies and gents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike0099 Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Wow, our prospect pool really lacks a #1 C and D. Hope that one of them can surprise and turn to a #1 in the future regardless of C or D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 6, 2014 Share Posted July 6, 2014 Hutton has first pairing potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 you're completely missing Hutton as a Red d-man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Hutton has first pairing potential. you're completely missing Hutton as a Red d-man... Wow you guys are placing a lot of hope in Hutton. For a 5th round pick, giving him top 4 potential is already significant. Shinkaruk, Horvat, McCann, Virtanen and Jensen (like almost every 1st rounder) all have better 1st line potential than Hutton has top pairing potential. Not saying it's impossible, but it is a really long shot, realistically we should place him as a top 4 potential, at most. Speaking of Hutton, anyone knows if he plans to attend canucks (prospect) camp? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oregon.Duck Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Wow you guys are placing a lot of hope in Hutton. For a 5th round pick, giving him top 4 potential is already significant. Shinkaruk, Horvat, McCann, Virtanen and Jensen (like almost every 1st rounder) all have better 1st line potential than Hutton has top pairing potential. Not saying it's impossible, but it is a really long shot, realistically we should place him as a top 4 potential, at most. Speaking of Hutton, anyone knows if he plans to attend canucks (prospect) camp? Eh, who knows, he could be our #1 at some point. Not every defenceman puts up numbers like Hutton did. He was up for the Hobey and going to Harvard shows that he has the IQ. I'm intrigued as I think he has a ton of upside. Edit: Misread quoted post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Did you see Hutton at last years prospect camp? He looked like a man among boys, bigger than most and way faster. He had a few end to end rushes that looked unstoppable literally skating around people with his head up and in control. Benny is going to be a beast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Eh, who knows, he could be our #1 at some point. Not every defenceman puts up numbers like Hutton did. He was up for the Hobey and going to Harvard shows that he has the IQ. I'm intrigued as I think he has a ton of upside. Edit: Misread quoted post. General IQ and hockey IQ are completely different things. Like I said, not saying it's impossible, but if Hutton deserve to be labelled on the depth chart as a top pairing, then we need to bump Shinkaruk, McCann, Horvat, Virtanen to potential 1st line as well. I think this chart is not base on potential, but more on realistic projection of where they will end up. Otherwise, they should all be labeled potential 1st line/1st pair, since Datsyuk and Zetterberg beat the odds of being very late picks who became great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canucks155 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Wow, we've got lots of 2nd line talent/ 2nd pair dman talent, but we lack 1st line/1st pair talent. Hopefully guys like Shinkaruk and Virtanen can reach their ceilings. Same w/ Tanev and Corrado on defense. At the same time, however, you've got to keep in mind that 1 or 2 of the prospects will be a bust. That's just the way hockey works. Either way, the future doesn't look so bleak after the last 2 drafts we've had. I'd sure love to add McDavid or Eichel to that prospect list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timberz21 Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Did you see Hutton at last years prospect camp? He looked like a man among boys, bigger than most and way faster. He had a few end to end rushes that looked unstoppable literally skating around people with his head up and in control. Benny is going to be a beast! LOL, thats what they said about Ekblad, yet everyone argued that he would only be a #2 and we should take reinhart (if we would have tradeD). He's not the first prospect to be more develop than others, which sometimes explains the difference in performances at that ages. If anything, we could argue that the only reasons Hutton looks so good is because of his faster developement (physically) than the others. Once the others catch up, Hutton will look ordinary. Now i'm not writting off Hutton, i'm just saying we should calm down before labelling him as our savior and future 1st line pair. I'm sure he'll be a good defenseman, and if he's a 1st pairing one day, well thats a bonus. Not really counting on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 If our prospects made up our roster: Fox-Gaunce-Vey Shinkaruk-Horvat-Jensen Virtanen-McCann-LaBate Kenins-Cassels-Beattie Lain Cederholm-Andersson Subban-Tommernes Tryamkin-McNally Forsling Markstrom Demko I'm not putting Corrado on this list because he's full-time NHL now, but otherwise, looks pretty decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avelanch Posted July 8, 2014 Share Posted July 8, 2014 Wow you guys are placing a lot of hope in Hutton. For a 5th round pick, giving him top 4 potential is already significant. Shinkaruk, Horvat, McCann, Virtanen and Jensen (like almost every 1st rounder) all have better 1st line potential than Hutton has top pairing potential. Not saying it's impossible, but it is a really long shot, realistically we should place him as a top 4 potential, at most. Speaking of Hutton, anyone knows if he plans to attend canucks (prospect) camp? all you have to do is watch a couple Maine Games and you'd see he oozes with 1st pairing future. he IS his team, the entire offence runs through him, and he's great defensively. easily the best player on the ice for his team night in and night out, and usually for both teams. 5th round pick or not, the kid will be a first pairing d-man for us in the future. He's a man among boys in the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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