TheRussianRocket. Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 SCENARIO: It's a week or so from trade deadline. Canucks are playing well and are in a playoff spot, around 6th place in the conference. Back East, the Sens are doing bad and are in the bottom 5 in league standings. Canucks offer this TO VANCOUVER: Kyle Turris TO OTTAWA: Vancouver 1st Round Pick 2015 the 2015 draft class expected to be a deep one with a handful of top talented potential. Players with the ability to change the state of a franchise in an instant. If the Sens are already not doing well, trading away their #1 centre in Turris would be a significant blow but would ideally be an addition by subtraction. Why? Common sense would tell you they'd become an even weaker team for the time being and could fall further down the league rankings upping their odds of landing the 1st overall pick. Ontop, they'd get a pick around the midway point of the draft which would just bolster their youth movement especially in a deep class like 2015. If the Sens did this, they'd have to suck it up for the remainder of the season but come draft day, they get even a top 3 pick which would be very likely, they're in luck. If they land 1st overall, they've hit the jackpot. There's a ton of centres the Sens could take: McDavid is said to be ahead of Crosby at the same stage and truly is "the next one", a generational player. Also have Eichel, who respectively will go 1-2 behind McDavid, a beast centre getting compared to the likes of Ryan Getzlaf. Mathew Barzal, a very intelligent player compared to RNH. Travis Konecy, an explosive offensive player, Colin White, Kyle Connor, etc. Could make a deadly 1-2 punch in the future MikaZ. They can also take a dman if they like. Noah Hanifin who is better than Aaron Ekblad compared as a Pietrangelo type, or Oliver Kylington who is a elite offensive dman compared to Erik Karlsson but much better defensively....ontop of that, a 13-20 pick from us would be substantial. Canucks throw away a very valuable pick in a deep draft but get Turris, a BC boy, who is 25 and yet to enter his prime. Would be a perfect #2 centre and would make this team real deep. A bit of cap would have to be shed to bring him in but Sestito and/or Hansen gone would do the trick. Would get a lot of years of productive service out of Turris and can make the transition of the the Sedins' (Hank at centre) easier and not have to rush the youngsters if need be. Turris also has a very cap friendly contract for a number of years. Daniel - Henrik - Vrbata Burrows - Turris - Kassian Higgins - Bonino - Jensen Matthias - Richardson - Vey Dorsett Hamhuis - Bieksa Edler - Tanev Stanton - Corrado Sbisa, Weber Miller Lack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex425 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Turris is already a top 6 player who was a 3rd overall pick and still has potential. I don't think a 1st from a playoff team would be good enough. Sure they could be lucky and pick up a franchise player but unlikely that they even get a 1st liner in the top 14-30. More likely to get 2nd liners/plug-in 1st liners or a 2nd pairing defenseman who can be a 1st pairing defenseman besides a top Defenseman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gretzky_Sedins Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I wouldn't do that.. we need to keep as many picks as we can so we can rebuild on the fly.. although turris is an enticing player i wouldn't trade our 2015 1st round pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdatb Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 ottawa rejects. turris is worth more than a 2015 first to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil_314 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We can do the old roster player replacement, prospect and 2nd instead of giving the 1st. Bones, Horvat? Or what would the Sens need? (I would be happy if Bones and Bo could get it done, since we'd add more quality up the top and the roster gets trimmed down. However at the same time it's unlikely that they'd just give Kyle away since he's still young and they can build around him for years to come.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 Turris is already a top 6 player who was a 3rd overall pick and still has potential. I don't think a 1st from a playoff team would be good enough. Sure they could be lucky and pick up a franchise player but unlikely that they even get a 1st liner in the top 14-30. More likely to get 2nd liners/plug-in 1st liners or a 2nd pairing defenseman who can be a 1st pairing defenseman besides a top Defenseman. If this was a normal draft true but trading Turris would make then lose more and get a lower pick which has chances of being 1st overall and a 15+ pick in this deep of a draft is no joke. I think it'd be a fair trade for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnScott Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 They just picked 10th ovr (well, they didn't but their pick was at 10th ovr) and that was with Spezza. They lost their 1C and shouldn't finish top 20 of the league with or without Turris. At picks 7-10 next year you could see centers like Strome or Konecny, who could potentially give them a GREAT 1-2 center situation in the future. If the trade happened, we'd likely finish with our pick around 20th ovr, meaning they'd lose Turris (3rd ovr) and get a player who likely won't be better than him either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plum Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ottawa doesn't do it, they'll finish bottom 5 in the league even with Turris. They don't want to break up the duo of Turris-ZIbanejad. I wouldn't do that.. we need to keep as many picks as we can so we can rebuild on the fly.. although turris is an enticing player i wouldn't trade our 2015 1st round pick Turris is a young 2nd line centre who is about to play on the 1st line for Ottawa, he can become that 1st line guy this year. Unless our pick is a top 5 pick, we do that trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 If we're in 6th in the West by the deadline that'd project as a 20th overall or likely even lower. That's not enough value for Ottawa to consider giving up Turris. Then consider our side, where we already have Henrik, Bonino, Vey, Richardson and Matthias all as capable centers and then Gaunce, Horvat, McCann, Cassels, etc. in the wings. Where would Turris fit for us, and we don't have someone comparable who could step in for the Senators and help them now to offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2SKATES1STICK Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 I love how you actually put that much thought into it, Like you actually expect the Sens to trade away the player they just replaced Spezza with as the #1C for a pick that probably won't play for at least two full seasons from the trade, and would be drafted lower than the player who's not only developed and proven and signed to a cheap contract but actually playing for the next two years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toews Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Zibanejad is more attainable than Turris for a 1st round pick but as it stands its too much of a risk for both teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Don't see this one. Turris is pretty much a solid top 6 centre, who still has potential to be a top line centre. Now... And even if they tank, there is still the lottery. Even if they finish dead last; there is no McDuarantee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombieksa Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Maybe for Horvat, Matthais, 1st. But probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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