420since1974 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I truly wish that people who make trade proposals involving players with NMCs &/or NTCs would explain their reasoning. The Canucks have 6 forwards, 3 defensemen, and 1 goalie with these clauses in their contracts. Why would these players waive those clauses in their contracts that they tried so hard to get in the first place? I'm not suggesting that it never happens, but you can't just ignore it, and assume that they will waive. Many of the trade proposal threads on this MB fail to take this into account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRussianRocket. Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There's new management & times have changed since those guys got their NTC/NMC's. There's a new vision, new structure, new everything and we aren't a powerhouse like we once were. Players understand and will be okay to move. It just gives them power to be okay with where they want to go so it's not like they get flipped to Buffalo and are in shock. Case in point Garrison. Hometown kid, signed not too long ago, team sucks, new management, new vision, ask him to leave and he left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 There's new management & times have changed since those guys got their NTC/NMC's. There's a new vision, new structure, new everything and we aren't a powerhouse like we once were. Players understand and will be okay to move. It just gives them power to be okay with where they want to go so it's not like they get flipped to Buffalo and are in shock. Case in point Garrison. Hometown kid, signed not too long ago, team sucks, new management, new vision, ask him to leave and he left. This pretty much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 For every Garrison who reportedly did not fuss about waiving, there is a Kesler or Iginla who will make trades difficult. I'm just suggesting that those posting trade proposals explain why they that feel a particular player will waive his NMC or NTC. Whether you agree with the clauses or not, they cannot realistically be ignored when proposing a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 You'd be much better trying to source out why Prospect A on another team with 0 or less than 100 full NHL games under his belt is worth A 1st a roster player and a prospect based on their "potential" Yet any and all of our prospects need to be included in the most basic deals to even get a John Scott... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 I'm with you on that Warhippy. This is just a pet peeve of mine, people proposing trades without considering all of the issues involved in actually making a trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 As long as they factor some logic with a trade. Like a team they might want to go to, I'm ok with it. Or a team that's doing well in the standings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Old Orca Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I have to question people that start rumors and not just suggestions on these boards not this one but say tsn and SN that say ex. Benning tried to move Burrows and Burrows nixed the deal. Why do they write stuff like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420since1974 Posted November 13, 2014 Author Share Posted November 13, 2014 Ghostsof1915 That's exactly the type of justification I'd like to see. Maybe they want to play close to their summer home, or where their wife's parents live, some kind of logic at the very least. Just not automatically assume that they will waive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c00kies Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I think the biggest thing to mention is which kind of NTC they have. If they have a clause that allows them to pick 5 teams they'll accept a trade to, it's unlikely they accept to a bottom-feeder like Edmonton, Buffalo, or Carolina. I know that a full NTC would also make it unlikely, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 higgins and hansen have limited no trade clauses i think if van asks them to be traded they have to give a five team list or am i wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuktravella Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 hamhuis as good as he is defensively has no offense and looks horrible out there this yr hes someone we shoukd trade to a contender hamhuis and hansen would get us a young puckmoving stud like pulock or bowey and some draft picks this team needs more speed and youth hamhuis looks like a senior citizen on skate out there no leg movement tanev is a stud tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I wish people would put tags on their threads in this subforum, but that doesn't always happen either. EDIT: and of course the mods have helped you out with that now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Burrows 14 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 hamhuis as good as he is defensively has no offense and looks horrible out there this yr hes someone we shoukd trade to a contender hamhuis and hansen would get us a young puckmoving stud like pulock or bowey and some draft picks this team needs more speed and youth hamhuis looks like a senior citizen on skate out there no leg movement tanev is a stud tho Hamhuis, our best and most consistent d man? That one who made team Canada? Ya I wouldn't trade him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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