Antonio Martin, 18 year old black teen, shot dead by cops in Berkeley, Missouri

[asian player]

Yea keep rioting and looting... That'all get them to hear ya

[Dazzle]

I recommend reading her twitter. It's twitrific.

Real stupidity out there for sure. >.>

[Pears]

This is a new level of stupid...

[Miltt]

This is a new level of stupid...

Not much of a thinker eh? Well I guess we need the unintelligent posts to balance out the rest of the posts. Good for you.

[Special Ed]

I get two things from this.

1. It's perfectly normal for teens to point guns at officers and the officers should not defend themselves.

2. Its a FACT that the white school shooters pointed their gun at police when captured.

Makes sense.

[Red Light Racicot]

Maybe its time too shoot Al Sharpton...

[freebuddy]

What does this have to do with Anonio Martin?

I was addressing Mr.As overt curiosity over police shootings by letting him know about the one in Las Vegas where a right wing white guy killed 2 cops to try to get his opinion on it, but of course he's only interested if it's a black shooter or victim.

[freebuddy]

What exactly is so funny?

Cause he's a racist idiot who gets his jollys whenever there's a black victim or shooter. Read enough of his posts and you'll understand why he posts this crap.

[freebuddy]

Typical racist white cops, won't even let a black man innocently aim a loaded gun at them.

where's the proof it was a gun and a loaded gun at that?

[Bill Sikes]

where's the proof it was a gun and a loaded gun at that?

I read that the gun was recovered at the scene, what was the cop supposed to do? Ask if it was loaded before shooting? Even if it wasn't a gun, if it looked like a gun the cop can't take chances.

[Bill Sikes]

The stat that jumps out for me is that a young black man is 21 more times likely to be shot by a policeman than a young white man.

Wish there was more people like you on this forum , people who are capable of posting and presenting their arguments in a rational manner.

Probably because young black men seem more likely to have the gansta/thug mentality and do something stupid resulting in their getting shot.

[EmployeeoftheMonth]

I was addressing Mr.As overt curiosity over police shootings by letting him know about the one in Las Vegas where a right wing white guy killed 2 cops to try to get his opinion on it, but of course he's only interested if it's a black shooter or victim.

So nothing than. Check. Just you trying to make a point in a thread about something serious and sad. That's makes you better than everything you've said about Mr. A how?

where's the proof it was a gun and a loaded gun at that?

If someone pointed a gun at you would you be asking if it was loaded? Stupid question...of course you wouldn't because that would be silly. Proof that it was a gun is in the video. Unless you think he was offering him an over ripe banana.

[Lockout Casualty]

I think this story is on point with the last few posts talking about pointing guns at cops and being fair game to get shot.

Joe O’Connor: Tragic police shooting of armed teens — that didn’t happen — says a lot about Canadian city

A kid is holding what appears to be a gun. Pointing it and pacing to his left, then right, before tucking the weapon into his waistband and scuffing at some snow with his shoes and sitting at a picnic table beneath a gazebo in a city park.

This was last month in Cleveland, Ohio. Tamir Rice, 12, doesn’t know someone has called 9-1-1 and described him as a “juvenile” to a police dispatcher while twice referring to the gun that he is carrying as “probably fake.”

The video, seen on screens across North America and around the world, captures what happened next: A police car pulls up. Two officers jump out, guns drawn.

Within a second, perhaps two at the most, Tamir Rice has been shot in the chest. He dies the next day.

The gun will indeed turn out to be a toy and Americans will ask themselves, again, how could this happen, and why does it always seems to happen here?

A kid is holding what appears to be a gun. Pointing it and pacing to his left, then right, before tucking the weapon into his waistband and scuffing at some snow with his shoes and sitting at a picnic table beneath a gazebo in a city park.

This was last month in Cleveland, Ohio. Tamir Rice, 12, doesn’t know someone has called 9-1-1 and described him as a “juvenile” to a police dispatcher while twice referring to the gun that he is carrying as “probably fake.”

The video, seen on screens across North America and around the world, captures what happened next: A police car pulls up. Two officers jump out, guns drawn.

Within a second, perhaps two at the most, Tamir Rice has been shot in the chest. He dies the next day.

The gun will indeed turn out to be a toy and Americans will ask themselves, again, how could this happen, and why does it always seems to happen here?

Instead, the officer dove for cover, drew his service revolver and shouted at the “males,” who turned out to be a couple of teenage boys, aged 14 and 15, to drop the firearm. They promptly did. The gun turned out to be a bb gun.

The boys were driven home. Police spoke to their parents. No charges were laid. And no headlines were written about a tragic shooting in Moncton, a city where, if anywhere in Canada, police could be forgiven for being a little quick on the trigger.

Remember the names of the dead? Constables Dave Ross, Fabrice Gevaudan and Douglas Larche, and the wounded, Darlene Goguen and Eric Dubois. And the date, June 4, when Justin Bourque committed the worst mass police shooting in Canadian history.

Ever since, Moncton RCMP have been receiving calls from a spooked, hyper-vigilant public, that keeps mistaking toys and other objects for lethal weapons, and keeps seeing the kids waving them around in the park as the next Bourque — and then dial 9-1-1 to report it. Police respond to every call.

“Sometimes it is not even a firearm,” Sgt. Janes says. “The community has a heightened sense of sensitivity with respect to these types of incidents as a result of June 4, along with the police…

“It is hard, for me anyway, to compliment your own force. It sounds like you are bragging and putting down other forces. But I think it goes to the training of our guys. You know, we have these talks on a weekly basis with respect to being vigilant out there.

“But, at the same time, looking at all the threat cues.”

He means looking for what is actually there, right in front of you. Last Sunday, it was two idiot teens in a park. One pointing what looked to be a gun at a police officer. And nothing happened.

In Cleveland, Tamir Rice stood up from a park bench and was shot dead.

It is a tragic story.

It is not Moncton. For that, we can all be proud.

National Post

http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2014/12/23/joe-oconnor-tragic-police-shooting-of-armed-teens-that-didnt-happen-says-a-lot-about-canadian-city/

Man, glad these cops don't have the same mentality. Police training is there for a reason, and maybe part of that reason is to avoid shooting people who may appear to be a threat, but aren't.

[etsen3]

Probably because young black men seem more likely to have the gansta/thug mentality and do something stupid resulting in their getting shot.

The stat that jumps out for me is that a young black man is 21 more times likely to be shot by a policeman than a young white man.

Wish there was more people like you on this forum , people who are capable of posting and presenting their arguments in a rational manner.

Black people are also much more likely to be stopped and searched for absolutely no good reason whatsoever, and also arrested for drug crimes despite similar usage rates to white people. When peoples' dads/moms etc. are incarcerated or treated like criminals even if they're not, you can see how this perpetuates a cycle of poverty and crime. Even if this one time, it was the kid's fault, it doesn't discount the millions of other black people who are treated as criminals even when they have done nothing wrong.

This doesn't mean that every white person is PERSONALLY responsible for the black community's problems, the problem is a societal one, not a personal one. However we must recognize that the mostly-white ruling class very often does things that put minorities at a disadvantage, and that white people often don't understand the challenges that many black people have. People like Bill Sikes show that racism and white privilege are alive and well, they are just more cloaked in order to be politically correct.

Also we need to all stand up for our own rights to go about our lives without coming under suspicion of the law. Racial profiling wouldn't be possible if police officers would only target people who were known to be undertaking suspicious activities. This can be accomplished through better training and a change in culture through government and law enforcement. Programs like stop and frisk and the "War on Drugs" need to go.

[Lockout Casualty]

Black people are also much more likely to be stopped and searched for absolutely no good reason whatsoever, and also arrested for drug crimes despite similar usage rates to white people. When peoples' dads/moms etc. are incarcerated or treated like criminals even if they're not, you can see how this perpetuates a cycle of poverty and crime.

This doesn't mean that every white person is PERSONALLY responsible for the black community's problems, the problem is a societal one, not a personal one. However we must recognize that the mostly-white ruling class of our countries very often does things that put minorities at a disadvantage, and that white people often don't understand the challenges that many black people have. People like Bill Sikes show that racism and white privilege are alive and well, it's just more cloaked in order to be politically correct.

Also we need to all stand up for our own rights to go about our lives without coming under suspicion of the law. Racial profiling wouldn't be possible if police officers would only target people who were known to be undertaking suspicious activities. This can be accomplished through better training and a change in culture through government and law enforcement. Programs like stop and frisk and the "War on Drugs" needs to go.

Well said.

I think some people forget (or pretend it doesn't factor in) that less than 100 years ago black people were still being lynched. Only 50 years ago they were finally able to vote on par with white folks. For 40 years black families have been decimated by the war on drugs, which disproportionately affects black communities.

Of course, all of that is white liberals' fault. We're keeping the black man down by trying to level the playing field and using them for... something. Ambien would have more info on this.

[Buddhas Hand]

Probably because young black men seem more likely to have the gansta/thug mentality and do something stupid resulting in their getting shot.

maybe we shouldn't hate collingwood or blame religion on JC

or marvel at the rascist kids who love public enemy

Tism

Which black rapper is your fave ?

[Buddhas Hand]

Black people are also much more likely to be stopped and searched for absolutely no good reason whatsoever, and also arrested for drug crimes despite similar usage rates to white people. When peoples' dads/moms etc. are incarcerated or treated like criminals even if they're not, you can see how this perpetuates a cycle of poverty and crime. Even if this one time, it was the kid's fault, it doesn't discount the millions of other black people who are treated as criminals even when they have done nothing wrong.

This doesn't mean that every white person is PERSONALLY responsible for the black community's problems, the problem is a societal one, not a personal one. However we must recognize that the mostly-white ruling class very often does things that put minorities at a disadvantage, and that white people often don't understand the challenges that many black people have. People like Bill Sikes show that racism and white privilege are alive and well, they are just more cloaked in order to be politically correct.

Also we need to all stand up for our own rights to go about our lives without coming under suspicion of the law. Racial profiling wouldn't be possible if police officers would only target people who were known to be undertaking suspicious activities. This can be accomplished through better training and a change in culture through government and law enforcement. Programs like stop and frisk and the "War on Drugs" need to go.

Great post esten.

What i do believe is that change starts with the individual , and I truly believe that one person can make a difference , even in todays world.

[WilliesStache14]

You were at the scene, eh?

Tell us the "facts"

at what point did I say I knew the facts? I said the people who showed up to protest are clueless about the facts.

as was everyone else at that point as the incident had just happened

try reading it helps alot

[Grapefruits]

where's the proof it was a gun and a loaded gun at that?

You must be kidding? There is NO way to see if a handgun is loaded or not from a distance, and a handgun was recovered at the scene. But I'm sure those racist pigs planted it right?

[DonLever]

The stat that jumps out for me is that a young black man is 21 more times likely to be shot by a policeman than a young white man.

Wish there was more people like you on this forum , people who are capable of posting and presenting their arguments in a rational manner.

Stats also show that while Blacks only make of 13% of the US population, Blacks commit 50% of the murders in the US.

Try to explain that one away.

It is time for the Black community to look within themselves to solve their problems rather to blame racism for everything.

from the Economist:

Black Americans are only 13% of the population, but over 50% of murder victims. Among black men between 20 and 24, the murder rate is over 100 per 100,000.

And just because someone agree with you does not mean they are rational. Like the guy who wanted to know if the gun was loaded!