Warhippy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Actual footage shows him lifting his hand towards the officer, the officer falling backwards and then what we can assume are the 3 shots fired. Ironically in a near empty parking lot there are/were dozens of witnesses out of nowhere. The damning issue for the officer is that he had left his dash cam off and his personal camera to be worn at all times was also turned off which will turn into a hot button issue for both defense and civil rights individuals. The damning part for the anti cop crowd...if this kid pointed a damned gun at the cop, the gun is going to be lying no less than 2 feet away from him. Not that this is going to stop the usual crowd from stirring up crap via racial digs or pro gun nonsense. Might be best to take a wait and see approach but we know that isn't possible for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taxi Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Retaliation for the 2 cops that were killed Sadly it will go back and forth Wtf? Do you honestly think police officers in St. Louis would randomly execute a black person to avenge two police officers killed in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You might enjoy this, about a right wing white guy who shot 2 cops in Vegas a few months ago: Las Vegas revolution shooters IDd as right-wing conspiracy nuts with a deathwish Travis Gettys 09 Jun 2014 at 11:32 ET A man who gunned down two police officers and a woman Sunday in Las Vegas left behind social media postings that show his concerns over Benghazi, chemtrails, gun control laws, and the governments treatment of rancher Cliven Bundy. Neighbors identified Jerad and Amanda Miller as the suspects who shot the officers execution-style as they ate lunch at a pizza restaurant, and then shot a woman outside a Walmart in the same plaza. The couples apartment was searched Monday morning, and authorities in Lafayette, Indiana, confirmed that Las Vegas police had contacted them about the case. [updates added below, showing the couple's postings on right-wing websites such as InfoWars and Breitbart.] Witnesses said the couple announced the shootings were the start of a revolution and draped the victims bodies with American Revolution-era Gadsden flags bearing the slogan Dont tread on me that have become symbols of the Tea Party movement. The couple exchanged gunfire with police as they pursued them into the store, but Amanda Miller apparently shot her husband to death before turning the gun on herself. Jerad Millers last Facebook post, made Saturday, hinted at the couples plans. The dawn of a new day. May all of our coming sacrifices be worth it, he posted. A shirtless, crying Jerad Miller posted a video in July 2013 professing his love for Amanda Miller before he began serving a jail term. Im going to miss your smile and your laugh, and the way you can always bring a smile to my face eventually, no matter how crabby of a mood Im in because of the New World Order and sh-t, he said. I just wish we could wake up our families, I wish we could live in a happy-go-lucky world and not have to worry about none of this. I wish we didnt have to go through this sh-t, but we do. Neighbors said Jerad Miller claimed he had gone to the Bundy ranch but was asked to leave, and he made similar claims on YouTube. I was out there but they told me and my wife to leave because I am a felon, Miller commented April 19. They dont seem to understand that they are all felons now for intimidating law enforcement with deadly weapons. So dont tell you that they need people. We sold everything we had to buy supplies and quit our jobs to be there 24/7. How dare you ask for help and shun us dedicated patriots! He was quoted on air by KRNV-DT from the Bundy ranch, suggesting the scofflaw ranchers supporters would respond with violence if it was initiated by federal authorities. I feel sorry for any federal agents that want to come in here and try to push us around or anything like that, Jerad Miller said. I really dont want violence toward them, but if theyre going to come bring violence to us, well, if thats the language they want to speak, well learn it. The suspects names, along with screen shots of their social media postings, were initially reported by Bob Schooley on Twitter, although he removed them late Monday morning. Amanda Miller set stricter privacy settings than her husband on her own Facebook page, although publicly available photos show the couple dressed as the Joker and Harley Quinn and visiting various sites along the Las Vegas Strip. Another photo shows Amanda Miller holding a pair of books Shooters Bible and Extreme Survival she received last Christmas from her grandmother, and she posted a pair of photos of herself firing an AK-47 at a shooting range in December. Her photos also document the couples January move from Indiana to Nevada, where Jerad Miller worked as a street performer. Amanda Miller indicated on Facebook that he had previously rented costumes until his boss was arrested, so the couple made their own costumes and dressed up as the comic book villains to earn tips from tourists. Jerad Miller outlined his political views, which were largely based on conspiracy theories promoted by Fox News and Alex Jones, in his social media postings, and he posted frequently about firearms and violent revolution. We can hope for peace, he posted June 2. We must, however, prepare for war. We face an enemy that is not only well funded, but who believe they fight for freedom and justice. Those of us who know the truth and dare speak it, know that the enemy we face are indeed our brothers. Even though they share the same masters as we all do. They fail to recognize the chains that bind them. To stop this oppression, I fear, can only be accomplished with bloodshed. Jerad and Amanda Miller posted comments at InfoWars, Breitbart A May 28, 2012, post on Jones InfoWars site appears to have been made by Jerad Miller, who expressed frustration with his arrest on drug charges and vowed he would rather die than be labeled a criminal. I am like a wild coyote, he wrote, using the user name Jerad and a Gadsden flag as his avatar. You corner me, I will fight to the death. He goes on to say hes broken hearted to see other Americans placated by materialism and celebrity worship as they submitted to tyranny. So, do I kill cops and make a stand when they come to get me? the post continues. I would prefer to die than sit in their jail, when I have done nothing to hurt anyone. That post attracted an appreciative comment from another InfoWars user, Amanda, whose profile uses the same maiden name Woodruff as Amanda Miller, along with the same birth year and hometown as the shooting suspect. Jerad, baby, I love you with all my heart and Ill stand behind you no matter what, wrote Amanda, whose avatar appears to be Amanda Miller. Its true that its not fair that i cant have a gun because you live with me. I know its not right that my rights get taken away from me because I live in the same home as you but I would love to see them try and enforce that. My love for you is deep and forever and f-ck what they have to say cause they have no right to do what they say is not right. The InfoWars user Amanda also claims the same job head of the needlepoint department for Hobby Lobby as Amanda Millers Facebook profile. The InfoWars user Jerad also complains in a 2012 post that he hadnt seen a dentist in 14 years because he lacks insurance, Medicaid, and a job. How the Gov. spends billions of dollars on the war on drugs and all these missles and bombs to kill people, posted Jerad, who indicates that he was 29 the same age as Jerad Miller at the time. I think about all that money that could do to helping people instead. Creating jobs, creating happy, healthy people. I dont want a hand out. I just need a foundation to stand on. One that wont be pulled out from under me as soon as i step up on it. Jerad also shared a short story hed written about a man who shot police as they marched against protesters, although it was apparently removed from InfoWars but remains visible in a cached version. Fiveteen bullets and fiveteen dead cops who failed to uphold their oath, Jerad wrote in a story posted June 20, 2012. His trust had been betrayed. Maybe now something will change, he thought. Maybe now they will see the error of their ways. The same InfoWars user complained that chemtrails were causing higher levels of respiratory illness, including strep throat and bronchidus, and he also warned that Im sure the floride isnt helping much either. A commenter who identified himself as Jerad Miller, using the same patriot avatar as the killers Facebook profile, commented April 27, 2013, on a Breitbart story on Vice President Joe Bidens claim that Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) might have won the 2008 election if the economy hadnt stalled. Jerad Miller complained in his Breitbart comment that President Barack Obama was exploiting gun violence to strip Americans of their Second Amendment rights. Watching the tyrant Obama stand on the graves of children to push this agenda has opened a lot of peoples eyes to how pathetic this push for gun control really is, Jerad Miller wrote. The fact that Obama may be baiting the next civil war with this action is disturbing. Millions would die in the event of civil war, many of them, would be unarmed civilians just speaking out against Obama and the (National Defense Authorization Act). He shared a viral image son his Facebook page suggesting the U.S. trade five Democratic lawmakers for a U.S. Marine who has been held for two months on weapons charges in Mexico after crossing the border with legally purchased firearms a suggestion jokingly made last week by Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY). Jerad Miller also shared a post by David Lory VanDerBeek, the Independent American Party candidate for Nevada governor, that suggested last months fatal shooting spree near the University of California, Santa Barbara, was a false flag operation enacted by the government to suppress gun rights. I see Obamas Socialist agenda of anti-2nd Amendment, pro-amnesty, Agenda 21 de-industrialization is in trouble, VanDerBeek posted. They need to grease the wheels of fear and politicizing a shooting in CA is not going to do it. People become numbed to the politics of shootings. That shooting spree, which left seven people dead and another seven wounded, prompted Jerad Miller to share a viral image that described that gunman as a liberal. So yet another liberal left-wing wack job goes on yet another fatal mass shooting spree because he couldnt get laid and thats the NRAs fault??? the caption reads. Jeez, its no wonder liberalisms regarded as a mental disorder. Amanda Miller posted frequently about the Bundy ranch standoff on her Google Plus page, where she also claimed she and her husband had moved to Nevada to support VanDerBeeks gubernatorial campaign. Jerad Miller reached out to VanDerBeek in the comments of Healthy Eating blog post on genetically modified organisms. I will see you soon, I will be in touch, Jerad Miller posted. My wife and I are planning to move to Nevada soon to help you in your resistance to tyranny. This is proof you are making an impact. Do not quit, my wife and I under your authority to receive training to protect you at all costs. We will take bullets to protect you to the best of our ability. We love you brother and all those who seek liberty. Neighbors said the couple spoke frequently about their guns and anti-government views, and they also made racist statements. They were handing out white-power propaganda and were talking about doing the next Columbine, said neighbor Brandon Moore. The couple did not associate with other residents of their apartment building, but they were well know to others. Yap, yap, yap, said neighbor Sue Hale. They were always running their mouths. Jerad Miller sketched out his interests with the groups and individuals he liked on Facebook, including Operation American Spring, Alliance Defending Freedom, the National Rifle Association, The Heritage Foundation, Rand Paul 2016, Three Percenter Nation, and Ron Paul. Amanda Miller also liked Ron Paul, Freedom Works, and Three Percenter Nation, in addition to various paranormal groups, Stop Amnesty, and Drudge Report. Jerad Miller posted a photo of himself Feb. 8 standing alongside former Sheriff Richard Mack, who promotes the posse comitatus idea that county sheriffs represent the supreme law of the land, during a libertarian sheriffs debate. He complained in a July 2013 video that the couples brainwashed family members would not help them during a dispute with their landlord, but one of those relatives disputed the characterization. Amanda was fine before you came around, said Julie Clites. Now she sits there doing everything you say because YOU have brainwashed her. Everyone of the grandkids has a future. Amanda married you and immediately lost hers. We wont help either of you because it is disgusting what you two believe in and stand for. Jerad Miller had been arrested numerous times since 2007 on weapons, battery, drug, criminal recklessness, and strangulation battery charges. Court records show he twice violated the terms of his in-house arrest on drug charges last year. He complained about his punishment in video, which also addresses surveillance by drones. Jerad Miller indicated in the video made before his jail term that the couple had bonded over their shared views. I know it feels like its you and me versus the world it kind of is you know, a bunch of zombies out there, a bunch of sheeple, just ignorantly working until their deaths, they dont even care where their money goes or nothing, he said. Im so glad youre not like that, baby, Im so glad that I found you.http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/06/las-vegas-shooters-idd-as-right-wing-conspiracy-nuts-with-a-deathwish/ What does this have to do with Anonio Martin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 What does this have to do with Anonio Martin? Holy crap did you actually read all that?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*VaNcOuVeRCaNuCkS* Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Wtf? Do you honestly think police officers in St. Louis would randomly execute a black person to avenge two police officers killed in NYC. Do I want to think that? No, but there are always a few or more bad apples on every police force Since more info has come out saying he pointed a gun at the cop then it was very well is justified Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Holy crap did you actually read all that?? Yeah. I don't know who's more dumb; me or freebuddy. At least I went in expecting some connection rather than just a vindictive little post to prove some ridiculously stupid point because someone is a bit insecure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhippy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Yeah. I don't know who's more dumb; me or freebuddy. At least I went in expecting some connection rather than just a vindictive little post to prove some ridiculously stupid point because someone is a bit insecure. I feel for you, the egg nog is in the fridge, rum on the counter. you've earned it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 So an ARMED black male was shot and killed by the police. IN AMERICA?? Whoooooooaaa!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliboy Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Antonio Martin, 18 year old black teen, shot dead by cops in Berkeley, Missouri..... While he was doing what? Robing? Killing? Raping?..... All of the above? Serious question... Cause it does matter. Ohh wait he just pointed a gun at the cops... Do that and your dead... The world is better off without him. Yes! If you point a gun at the cops you're going to get shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ambien Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 So an ARMED black male was shot and killed by the police. IN AMERICA?? Whoooooooaaa!!!!Typical racist white cops, won't even let a black man innocently aim a loaded gun at them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raoul Duke Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Typical racist white cops, won't even let a black man innocently aim a loaded gun at them. Might as well have been wearing hoods. Bastards. I'm going to throw a brick through a store now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lockout Casualty Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Typical racist white cops, won't even let a black man innocently aim a loaded gun at them. The amount of schadenfreude in this thread is disgusting, especially from this guy. Is it me, or am I missing where people are blaming racist white cops here? Couldn't be another straw man Ambien is going to beat senseless, could it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elvis15 Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 You were at the scene, eh? Tell us the "facts" See below... You First! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeydew Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Freebuddy with his tinfoil hat on again! Caution!!!! This is going to send weird ripples to a town that is still recovering from the recent riot I wonder how this would play down? I'm pretty sure there's someone in Ferguson probably planning retaliation against this cop. Never ending hate cycle, there needs to be someone with balls to say this is enough and actually do something about it rather to be a bystander criticizing on what's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NucksPatsFan Posted December 24, 2014 Author Share Posted December 24, 2014 Why would you post all of these terrible sources? Because they were the only sources at the time of the incident. Pretty sure it went on for a handful of hours before the major news networks woke up, had their coffee and realized something was happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmployeeoftheMonth Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 I feel for you, the egg nog is in the fridge, rum on the counter. you've earned it What the hell is the egg nog for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Intoewsables Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 When do we get to start looting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMohammadman Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 If he did infact point a gun at the cops, then he completley deserves getting shot. Wheher he's black, white, or purple. Im a big anti-racism guy and anti-discrimination supporter, but I think if this guy had been white, the reaction would be much different for many people and it would have not been as much of a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOgRook Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 ^ I'm with you Mo. This is Darwin's theory at work. Any moron who points a gun at a cop gets what he gets. If he was white we woulda been talking like "oh well one less dumb redneck to populate to world" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzle Posted December 24, 2014 Share Posted December 24, 2014 Shouldn't be any controversy here. How did the kid get the gun in the first place? That's the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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