Sly_Paragon Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Sedins are Canucks for life. They may not win the cup as first liners but, as 2nd or 3rd liners behind the rookies Horvat, Virtanen, Shinkaruk and Boeser they may pull it off. I have a very good feeling of the new generation of players coming in. Linden and Benning have a vision and plan in place. Cup drought in Van will end soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lethunder Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Only way I see them going anywhere is if it's the last year of their deal and they plan on going back to Sweden when it expires. It would be at the deadline and we'd retain salary to move them to a contender for one last crack at the cup while getting some solid picks/prospects back. This is of course if they're still playing at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Standing_Tall#37 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Sedins are Canucks for life. They may not win the cup as first liners but, as 2nd or 3rd liners behind the rookies Horvat, Virtanen, Shinkaruk and Boeser they may pull it off. I have a very good feeling of the new generation of players coming in. Linden and Benning have a vision and plan in place. Cup drought in Van will end soon. We're at least 5-10 years off of competing for a cup. Within a few years we'll be wondering when we'll even be contending for a playoff spot. It's not negative, it's just the realalistic natural cycle of things. All teams go through it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longsuffering Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Martin St. Louis did the honourable thing and retired. Maybe the Sedins should too.... a graceful exit rather than the slow torture of going through years of rebuilding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxieMan98 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 The sedins will retire canucks, and you can take that to the bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 Omg. Do many of the posters in this thread even watch the Sedin's in the playoffs? This team should have started a rebuild a few years back, and while they have value as top players, the Sedin's should be traded to a preferred team if they are willing to do so, and not just for them, but for the sake of the Canucks team. The Sedin's are a known quantity in the playoffs and they have an inability to compete as effective as they do during regular season, probably because the Canucks have become a one line team essentially. Relying on the Sedin's to carry this team has been a failure. That kind of expectation was and is still unrealistic. I would love to have the Sedin's stick around and retire here, but that should be considered an unrealistic and silly romantic expectation during a serious rebuild as this team requires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M A K A V E L I 96 Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 I would love to have the Sedin's stick around and retire here, but that should be considered an unrealistic and silly romantic expectation during a serious rebuild as this team requires. If the team is in a real rebuild, the cap isn't an issue and there's no reason to trade them. You want them to be here for a rebuild so that their work ethic and experience helps the younger players, which is more valuable than a late 1st or whatever they get in return from a contending team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 What contender has $14m in cap space??? Anaheim: http://www.generalfanager.com/teams/anaheim-ducks 17 million in space with 21 signed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nave Posted July 2, 2015 Share Posted July 2, 2015 They'll play until 40 and retire Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoast Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 That would be pretty crazy to see them go to Anaheim ,good chance at a cup.Maybe get nick Ritchie after all lol.But as I've said all along they will fade out in Van. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well, with all that is going on and the direction of this team clearly heading to rebuild, doesn't look like it will be competitive for the next 2-3 years. Q: will Benning and Linden give the Sedins a choice to go to a contender (one that can afford their salary). Out of respect, not ask them to waive NTC but just do the right thing for the Sedins. One of three options: 1.) In two seasons, at the start of their final years here, the Sedins will sit down with management and offer a "Mats Sundin". They will agree to go to another team (a contender) with the goal of them winning the Cup, while playing with that team over the entire season. This will give the other team their best chance to organize their budget to accommodate the addition of $14 million on their cap. It also would be something which I believe the Sedins, like Sundin, would feel was an honorable thing to do, rather than being parachuted in to a winning situation about which they had no input. 2.) In two and a half seasons from now, the Sedins will have have a discussion with the team management. At that time, assuming the team is looking like they will not make the playoffs, they will express their desire to be traded (to a contender at the deadline). This will be awkward for other teams to try and fit them in, but things can be done. With some retention (it's only for the end of the season), and the taking back of a bad contract or two (these will also be only for the short term), the Sedins could be whisked away to a new area code. 3.) The Sedins say, "Ga suga ett agg!" (or words to that effect) to folks who want to have them traded, and they finish off their careers here. regards, G. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoomba Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Likely scenario is they get traded as rental players to a team who feels they can win the cup that year. Then they can re-sign with Vancouver before retiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenDrinkin Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 After this contract, I think they will sign one year contracts until they retire. Some here think that all they want is to win a cup, but I think all they want is to play here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 A while back someone made a proposal on HF that had the Sedins 50% salary retained to the Ducks for like three firsts, Ritchie and Theodore. Was kinda interesting. Would never happen though. What contender has $14m in cap space??? Anaheim could pull it off possibly, and Nashville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintPatrick33 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 In 3 years, we can be in a position to win if Bo, Jake, Shinkaruk and a few other guys turn into primetime players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well, with all that is going on and the direction of this team clearly heading to rebuild, doesn't look like it will be competitive for the next 2-3 years. Q: will Benning and Linden give the Sedins a choice to go to a contender (one that can afford their salary). Out of respect, not ask them to waive NTC but just do the right thing for the Sedins. If they're playing even close to their current level in the final year of their contract trade them at the trade deadline for two 1st, two 2nd and two prospects and we retain 5.5m of their contracts. At 1.5 each at the deadline virtually any team could fit them in. I'd prefer they retire Canucks as they not only deserve it, they've earned it. But if they want one more shot at the cup this scenario could work for a contender that wants that push over the top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 If they're playing even close to their current level in the final year of their contract trade them at the trade deadline for two 1st, two 2nd and two prospects and we retain 5.5m of their contracts. At 1.5 each at the deadline virtually any team could fit them in. I'd prefer they retire Canucks as they not only deserve it, they've earned it. But if they want one more shot at the cup this scenario could work for a contender that wants that push over the top. You aren't allowed to retain that much salary. 50% is the max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggins Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 You aren't allowed to retain that much salary. 50% is the max. Well now that sucks. Even retaining 50% equals a 7m combined cap hit. A team would only need around 2.3m cap space available to take on both Sedins at the trade deadline of their final year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LuckyLuciano Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 They're going to bring Lord Stanleys mug home to Vancouver within next three years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 Well now that sucks. Even retaining 50% equals a 7m combined cap hit. A team would only need around 2.3m cap space available to take on both Sedins at the trade deadline of their final year. Yeah its definitely still workable, and if its something they are into cause they want a shot at the cup, then I think we have to do it. The return would be monstrous, considering the ridiculous amount of depth two Sedins for the price of one would bring. Anaheim could easily fit them. Could you imagine Anaheim with both Sedins added? They'd be disgustingly good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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