This Management is the "New England Patriots" of NHL

[bd71]

What are the comparables? I'm genuinely curious why you think this and even want it to be true. I'll take the winning but not the way the Patriots have.

Belichick was on his third stretch of being a head coach (although he never actually coached a game for the Jets) when he started with the Pats and hadn't had a lot of success prior. Belichick screwed over the Jets to take the job and the Pats ended up having to give the Jets a first round pick. Belichick then received a $500,000 fine in 2008 for spy-gate and lost another first round pick. Again this year the Pats were heavily punished for cheating and lost their first for 2016 and fourth for 2017 and Brady for four games.

That's just what they have been publicly admonished for. There is all kinds of speculation that the cheating goes much deeper. Read "Spygate The Untold Story" for more details.

The stats on the Pats is troubling. The fumble stats since the rule changes on ball inflation defy reality. Home win stats etc.

I want the Canucks to have solid character but in no way would I want them to carry themselves like Belichick or the Pats have over the years.

But this is not to discourage your posting. Good post.

[TOMapleLaughs]

Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

Weweweweweweeeeh.

Don't you guys get tired of making the same posts? They're just as tired as the #FireBenning posts, honestly.

Simply, we're not the Pats of the NHL until we start winning multi-championships. Until then, we're the Bills or Vikings.

[SabreFan1]

Weweweweweweeeeh.

Don't you guys get tired of making the same posts? They're just as tired as the #FireBenning posts, honestly.

Simply, we're not the Pats of the NHL until we start winning multi-championships. Until then, we're the Bills or Vikings.

Until the Canucks lose 4 consecutive championship games/series, you will never know the pain... WIDE RIGHT.

[McBackup]

Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

Agreed, I hate this fan base. So embarrassing, time and time again.

K. Have fun with your new teams and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[bd71]

Until the Canucks lose 4 consecutive championship games/series, you will never know the pain... WIDE RIGHT.

It still hurts me to this day. I was a season ticket holder until last year but I miss that pain of wide right. The last few years and now the reign of the Pegulas is far worse. Destroyed the Sabres and are now about to do the same to the Bills. I know I go against the grain of the fanbase here but I truly can't understand the ownership of the Bills and Sabres. Terry and Kim make me miss the last years of Ralph and Tom and that says something.

And that is another reason why I want the Canucks to have nothing to do with being like the Patriots. When your team gets cheated by them for 15 years it's hard to have any kind of positive feelings for that club.

[Raoul Duke]

The Canucks are the Seattle Mariners of the NHL

Pretty much. Or the LA Clippers. Cincinatti Bengals.

[Dr. Crossbar]

Hey I am with you Jerry I feel the same way. 2011 was great but nothing beats the 94 run. To me that was the team I can never forget. 2011's team was skilled but lacked the "Character" of 94's team. Your anology with the Pats makes me realize what JB is trying to do. If its to bring to this city a team similar to 94's I am all for that.

Couldn't agree more. 94 proved that anything can happen. The Pats' success proved that an organization can turn around after four decades. All the naysaying is unnecessary.

[SabreFan1]

It still hurts me to this day. I was a season ticket holder until last year but I miss that pain of wide right. The last few years and now the reign of the Pegulas is far worse. Destroyed the Sabres and are now about to do the same to the Bills. I know I go against the grain of the fanbase here but I truly can't understand the ownership of the Bills and Sabres. Terry and Kim make me miss the last years of Ralph and Tom and that says something.

And that is another reason why I want the Canucks to have nothing to do with being like the Patriots. When your team gets cheated by them for 15 years it's hard to have any kind of positive feelings for that club.

We're polar opposites on the issues. I'm more worried about Rex hurting the Bills than I am of the Pegulas doing anything to them. Rex seems to want to make the Bills the Jets 2.0 version. All Terry has done so far is to write cheques and try to bring in Bill Polian. He's staying out of everybody's way.

As for him ruining the Sabres, that only happened because he was a fan who bought his hometown team and couldn't bear to part with Darcy Regier and Lindy Ruff. Rumour has it that Kim Pegula told Terry several times that Darcy needed to go. He just didn't do it until it was too late. It took the fans chanting "Fire Darcy" during home games for Terry to do it.

Terry's learned his lessons since then. If you watched him up on the draft stage with Eichel and the Sabres front office brass, you saw a much more subdued owner who knew that his place wasn't supposed to be front and centre. He and Ted Black even stayed away from the press conferences.

[JeremyCuddles]

But the patriots have multiple championship rings

He said management is New England, not the Canucks are New England. People with low reading comprehension take everything too literal.

[We Are All Cynics]

But the patriots have multiple championship rings

That's right. Who says cheaters never prosper?

[NucksFanInOz]

Wait wait wait... Let me get this straight. Bill Belichick is actually Willie D, and the Sedins combined create Tom Brady? Do they know how to play hockey? Does this mean we have to find a way to deflate pucks? I don't think this all adds up.

[SabreFan1]

Wait wait wait... Let me get this straight. Bill Belichick is actually Willie D, and the Sedins combined create Tom Brady? Do they know how to play hockey? Does this mean we have to find a way to deflate pucks? I don't think this all adds up.

[Dr. Crossbar]

[link]http://www.patriots.com/news/2014/12/24/patriots-spurs-follow-similar-paths-success[/link]

Thought I'd post this here ...Patriots, Spurs Follow Similar Paths to Success. (Link above)

Remember when Linden went down to San Antonio to meet with the Spurs? Obviously he took something away.

Reading this article, there are a few interesting nuggets that ring familiar with what Linden and Benning are trying to do. LONG way to go but there may be a few things to consider.

This caught my eye ...

"Having a locker room that is dominated by the right kind of people and the right makeup is just as important as talent if you want to sustain championship level football or basketball,'' said Pioli, now assistant general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. ''The key (was) to make sure that we went out and got players that loved and were willing to commit to football the way that the head coach would. And that's what San Antonio does."

This below also caught my eye. Thought of Kassian and how Benning said he thought Montreal could be the team where Kass can be the player HE THINKS he can be ...

"The Spurs and the Patriots have a collection of guys that are over themselves,'' said Los Angeles Clippers coach Doc Rivers, who became friendly with Belichick while coaching the Boston Celtics. ''Pop talks about that all the time, and so does Belichick: `I need guys to be over themselves and about the team."

Totally forgot that Linden met with the Spurs. Thought some things in this article sounded familiar as related to our plan. Who knows. Interesting nonetheless.

[SaintPatrick33]

[link]http://www.patriots.com/news/2014/12/24/patriots-spurs-follow-similar-paths-success[/link]

Thought I'd post this here ...Patriots, Spurs Follow Similar Paths to Success. (Link above)

Remember when Linden went down to San Antonio to meet with the Spurs? Obviously he took something away.

Reading this article, there are a few interesting nuggets that ring familiar with what Linden and Benning are trying to do. LONG way to go but there may be a few things to consider.

This caught my eye ...

"Having a locker room that is dominated by the right kind of people and the right makeup is just as important as talent if you want to sustain championship level football or basketball,'' said Pioli, now assistant general manager of the Atlanta Falcons. ''The key (was) to make sure that we went out and got players that loved and were willing to commit to football the way that the head coach would. And that's what San Antonio does."

This below also caught my eye. Thought of Kassian and how Benning said he thought Montreal could be the team where Kass can be the player HE THINKS he can be ...

"The Spurs and the Patriots have a collection of guys that are over themselves,'' said Los Angeles Clippers coach Doc Rivers, who became friendly with Belichick while coaching the Boston Celtics. ''Pop talks about that all the time, and so does Belichick: `I need guys to be over themselves and about the team."

Totally forgot that Linden met with the Spurs. Thought some things in this article sounded familiar as related to our plan. Who knows. Interesting nonetheless.

Thank you for bringing up Linden's spurs visit. I suppose it got lost in the shuffle admist all of the offseason hoopla, but that trip just reaffirmed my faith in Linden trying to create the best organization from the top down. We as fans rarely know what goes on behind the scenes, and good organizations are able to create a successful environment that maximizes the potential of the players.

[Dr. Crossbar]

Thank you for bringing up Linden's spurs visit. I suppose it got lost in the shuffle admist all of the offseason hoopla, but that trip just reaffirmed my faith in Linden trying to create the best organization from the top down. We as fans rarely know what goes on behind the scenes, and good organizations are able to create a successful environment that maximizes the potential of the players.

No worries. I thought it was worth bringing up. I read a number of articles on the Spurs success and started to see a few similarities in terms of some of the change. Linden didn't reveal too much about his meeting but this is interesting given our early stage. He is committed to building a winning franchise. You can see the new culture taking shape.

[Riviera82]

We're gonna have to find the NHL's version of Tom Brady.

[Dr. Crossbar]

We're gonna have to find the NHL's version of Tom Brady.

You're right! Benning needs to get the Brady via a big move or create the right conditions for our Brady to emerge.

[bd71]

We're polar opposites on the issues. I'm more worried about Rex hurting the Bills than I am of the Pegulas doing anything to them. Rex seems to want to make the Bills the Jets 2.0 version. All Terry has done so far is to write cheques and try to bring in Bill Polian. He's staying out of everybody's way.

As for him ruining the Sabres, that only happened because he was a fan who bought his hometown team and couldn't bear to part with Darcy Regier and Lindy Ruff. Rumour has it that Kim Pegula told Terry several times that Darcy needed to go. He just didn't do it until it was too late. It took the fans chanting "Fire Darcy" during home games for Terry to do it.

Terry's learned his lessons since then. If you watched him up on the draft stage with Eichel and the Sabres front office brass, you saw a much more subdued owner who knew that his place wasn't supposed to be front and centre. He and Ted Black even stayed away from the press conferences.

I agree with you on Rex. He is building a team for the 90s. Big front 7 on D and a ground and pound game. So not the way to win anymore.

I think Terry has gotten better but he seems to be in on everything still. Rex met with him in Boca. Players meet with him. I don't like it. I also really don't like the way he makes his living so I'm kind of biased.

Kim scares me. I think she's running the sports teams,

[TimberWolf]

Wow. After the OP made a very intelligent post with great insight, all the idiots on this board STILL find a way to slander Benning.

God I hate this idiotic, clueless fan base. Around 97% of our fans have literally no idea what's going on.

Funny how comments that slam the fanbase are usually the most upvoted.

[VanGnome]

Troll?! I don't even know what that means?! I had to wait to be approved by admin--so yes I did "just join".

I'm a 40 year old father of twin boys, who grew up in Prince George and was raised in YVR. I played a myriad of competitive sports and hockey at a high level. I'm not just talking out of my a$$.

I was there in 1994 and in 2011 (meaning physically present at the hockey games) and I'm passionate about sport in general and my beloved Canucks.

I've been following close and had wanted to share my perspective and opinion. If "trolling" means that I have a life...than yes I'm a "troll". My twins have been active in competitive sports and Montessori since 3 years of age so registering and commenting are the last things I want to do.

It's a holiday week here and I took this opportunity to voice my opinion--I've worked hard for this free time. I take offense to a**holes like yourself who make totally baseless and insidious comments...

Zero fu**s given if you ban me. I know what it takes to be successful. I guess you really are the spineless mungs that burned my city down--again. Pathetic. I'm glad you could put your joystick down and stop gaming (or viewing free porn) to state your comments.

Genius.

To the true fans: Canucks will trump the Hawks as far as dynasty or legacy is concerned. More importantly, for everyone involved...we will have a quality, competitive, durable product for decades. Resulting in: Championships.

What a waste of time. Go, Canucks, go!

As a father myself, and a free thinking individual, I will say this: we are all free to choose what we will for our children. That said, after having done the research, and my wife having dealt directly as a peer with students that came from the Montessori educational system... well, my daughter WON'T be participating.

Regarding the OP, I agree with parts of what your saying. The Vancouver Canucks culture the past decade really has not been the greatest. Every iteration of the team really has been predicated on building around the Sedins. As the centerpieces of this team, the Sedins really have done a fine job, considering they really haven't a quality line mate for any consistent or meaningful period of time for the duration of their careers; Burrows has been the "best fit" and that's saying a lot.

What I'm getting at, is the concept of building around the Sedins really has been a fallacy, and it's the persistence of that fallacy that has landed the team in the mess it's presently in. Among the miss management of assets, player retention and poor drafting, the Canucks the past 10 years have resembled a stock exchange ticker more than a natural bell curve.

Linden and Benning are beginning to correct that, and focusing on getting players into the organization that regardless of their position on the depth chart, they can get their job done. The height of the Sedins success is due in large part of the ingenious coaching of Alain Vigneault than the team that Burke/Nonis/Gillis "built" around them, not to discredit or discount their own abilities and what they're capable of.

It's a little saddening to see some of the responses, it's almost as if the majority of posters here don't even have a high school level education; when people can't distinguish between metaphorical and literal comparison, it's a sad day indeed.