zejono Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I just noticed that the 2006 draft was so deep and in each round there great players that play today. Also it funny to see how we picked Grabner at 14 and then Giroux was drafted later at 22. Are there any other years that had a lot of depth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaku Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 5 minutes ago, zejono said: I just noticed that the 2006 draft was so deep and in each round there great players that play today. Also it funny to see how we picked Grabner at 14 and then Giroux was drafted later at 22. Are there any other years that had a lot of depth? 2003 draft was insanely deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thejazz97 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 They're all pretty deep when you consider that there's ~210 players taken every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milk and honey Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not as good as 2003 but 2001 was really good too. A good number of steals in the later rounds as well. 2013 was said to be the deepest draft in a long time. We see if that is true but so far looks promising. Even guys who haven't touched the NHL yet like our own Cassels and a couple others. I have read that they are looking quite good in junior/NCAA/Europe leagues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 43 minutes ago, Jaku said: 2003 draft was insanely deep. That's what she said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2013 another deep draft imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justdean10 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I think it depends on what you mean by deep? 2009/2010 have the highest percentage of players to at least play a game in the NHL since at least the early 90s.. but I would say talent wise 2003 was probably the deepest. I believe it's the only year every player drafted in the first round have played a game in the NHL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Not that I am here trying to stirr up stuff. But let me share with you all the drafting list of players we could have gotten in the 1st round if we had great scouting like we do today. (This list starting from 2008 near the start of Gillis' reign.) 2008 (10th Hodgson) Myers 12th Karlsson 15th Eberle 22nd 2009 (22nd Srcoder) Marcus Johansson - 24th Ryan O'Reilly - 33rd Silfverberg - 39th 2010 (25 traded to FLA Howden) Coyle 28th Etem 29th Faulk 37th 2011 (29th Jensen) Jenner 37th Gibson 39th Saad 43rd 2012 (26th Gaunce) Pearson (30th) Dansk (31st) McCabe (44th) 2013 (10th Horvat) Nichushkin 10th Domi 12th Now personally. These are just some of the names that stood out too me. Jensen and Gaunce may still turn out to be solid nhlers. But the first few years where we had dismal drafting records really shows our holes. Imagine adding even just 1-2 of the quality players we missed out on between 2008-2010. This team's complexion would look much different. Bo is turning out to be a heck of a hockey player. I personally would of gone with Nichushkin but honestly I knew very little of the prospect outside of their highlight reels and basic jr stats. Gaunce looks to be a piece you build a cup contender with. (Really think hes future C/A material. Very mature for his age). Jensen the verdict is still out on. Might be packaged and I suspect he will be for other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 That list is just something to ponder over. If we are patient perhaps we can hit more of those quality players. Thankfully the youth upcoming thru the systems these days seem to be of a higher caliber. So it should in theory be easier to find good talent late in rounds even if we do reasonably well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmilyM Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 2 minutes ago, Rush17 said: Not that I am here trying to stirr up stuff. But let me share with you all the drafting list of players we could have gotten in the 1st round if we had great scouting like we do today. 2008 (10th Hodgson) Myers 12th Karlsson 15th Eberle 22nd 2009 (22nd Srcoder) Marcus Johansson - 24th Ryan O'Reilly - 33rd Silfverberg - 39th 2010 (25 traded to FLA Howden) Coyle 28th Etem 29th Faulk 37th 2011 (29th Jensen) Jenner 37th Gibson 39th Saad 43rd 2012 (26th Gaunce) Pearson (30th) Dansk (31st) McCabe (44th) 2013 (10th Horvat) Nichushkin 10th Domi 12th Conversely, it could've also gone like this: 2008 (Hodgson 10th): Kyle Beach 11th 2009 (Schroeder 22nd): Philippe Paradis 27th 2010 (traded 25th): Mark Visentin 27th 2011 (29th Jensen): David Musil 31st 2012 (26th Gaunce): Brady Skjei 28th So, it could have been a lot worse :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gstank29 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 3 minutes ago, EmilyM said: Conversely, it could've also gone like this: 2008 (Hodgson 10th): Kyle Beach 11th 2009 (Schroeder 22nd): Philippe Paradis 27th 2010 (traded 25th): Mark Visentin 27th 2011 (29th Jensen): David Musil 31st 2012 (26th Gaunce): Brady Skjei 28th So, it could have been a lot worse :D Or if you were Edmonton it could have gone 2008 Eberle: John Carlsson 2009 Magnus Paajarvi: Ryan Ellis 2010 Taylor Hall: Tyler Seguin 2011 RNH: Landeskog 2012 Yapkov: Ryan Murray(was the consensus number 2 pick) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homersexual Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I'm sure the Penguins hate to be reminded of the 2006 draft year. Drafted Staal instead of Toews. How many cups would Crosby and Towes have in Pittsburgh today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruilin96 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 I once go back and look at previous drafts and I saw we drafted Bryan Allen with the 4th overall pick in 1998... and I also saw we drafted a Russian guy (forgot his name) in the 2nd round when Duncan Keith was still available and I could go on and on... but rest is history, all we could hope for is no more these stupid draft busts we did and build from strong drafts in the future... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Biestra Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1990 was a deep draft. We took Nedved 2nd overall and soon thereafter, like everyone in the first four, wished we hadn't let Jagr slip to 5th. 1979 and 1980 were deep. 1983 and 1984 were pretty insane as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 51 minutes ago, homersexual said: I'm sure the Penguins hate to be reminded of the 2006 draft year. Drafted Staal instead of Toews. How many cups would Crosby and Towes have in Pittsburgh today. 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Boudreau Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 Well if we are talking modern day current NHL. Most franchise players were drafted in 03' that is the measuring stick for every draft. 2013 looks promising but going back it proves how first rounders have a double edged sword they gets tons of opportunities to show they can play but have pressure to develop more rapidly. It's almost better to be taken after the first round in hockey or go undrafted because there is no pressure on you to develop at a certain if you develop it is a bonus. First rounders flame out and then you have guys like Johnny Gaudrea who were given time to develop in college and now he is the next best small skilled player after Patrick Kane in the entire NHL. Nobody drafted him earlier because of his size. Even with the NFL and NHL being more open to smalller, faster, more skilled players players still get judged first and foremost on physical size and not talent and mental aptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lock Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 1 hour ago, homersexual said: I'm sure the Penguins hate to be reminded of the 2006 draft year. Drafted Staal instead of Toews. How many cups would Crosby and Towes have in Pittsburgh today. I'm not so sure about that actually. That would have meant they'd have Crosby, Malkin, and Toews. Although it brings up a thought: like with selecting Staal, they'd end up with 3 centers. Would that have pushed Toews to the 3rd line like what happened with Staal? And, if this was the case, would Toews be considered more like Staal while Staal ends up being more of a star than he is? It's a funny thought really more than anything. The team you join can make all the difference. It was a completely different situation in Pittsburgh than it was in Chicago at that time despite both clubs having gone through a long stretch of bad hockey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rush17 Posted December 13, 2015 Share Posted December 13, 2015 13 hours ago, EmilyM said: Conversely, it could've also gone like this: 2008 (Hodgson 10th): Kyle Beach 11th 2009 (Schroeder 22nd): Philippe Paradis 27th 2010 (traded 25th): Mark Visentin 27th 2011 (29th Jensen): David Musil 31st 2012 (26th Gaunce): Brady Skjei 28th So, it could have been a lot worse :D Yeah very true. Just wanted to shed some light of what could have been with good drafting. Maybe give us some insight and patience well we let our stud scout JB do his work. Nux had worst drafting record in the league during gillis reign. So adding one of the best scouts should over time help us find more quality players. Tbh i was estatic when hodg was drafted after that wjc performance. 10 points or something was a leader for points in tourney. Clearly he was mis handled though. He blames our old medical staff but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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