captaincowbasher Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 I know this might be a stretch but i feel the Club would be better served if next year the Sedins anchored the second line, therefore we would need a 1st line center, so... Trade- Edler(no trade clause I know) + Hansen and our 2nd 2016 for M.Duchene. Colorado might consider this as Edler still holds great value and slots into their 1st pair Right side. Hansen would look great playing on the Right side with Soderberg. Mackinnon of course takes the first line center with Landeskog on his right. The 2nd rd pick is self explanatory. Canucks do this because they can sign UFA Eriksson to play along side Duchene and i would honestly move McCann to the Left side and folks this line becomes our 1st line. Extremely fast, electric, talented and something for us to get excited about. Sutter moves to the wing with the Sedins and this team is starting to look really deep. Horvat, Baertschi and Jake on the third line and I think we have a legit chance to compete. Boeser is on his way and would look amazing on Duchene's right side in a couple of years. This trade does exactly what this Club needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Why make a weak defense already weaker by trading your most experienced all/round defenseman? Just get PLD and the succession plan will have begun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincowbasher Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fanuck said: Why make a weak defense already weaker by trading your most experienced all/round defenseman? Just get PLD and the succession plan will have begun. Know I realize they could get Dubois, but he's honestly 2 maybe even 3 years away so whats there to get excited about? 2-3 more years of the Sedins slowing down even more and they keeping eating up the most minutes but that's OK because they're the best we got. This is my whole point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaincowbasher Posted May 7, 2016 Author Share Posted May 7, 2016 1 minute ago, captaincowbasher said: Know I realize they could get Dubois, but he's honestly 2 maybe even 3 years away so whats there to get excited about? 2-3 more years of the Sedins slowing down even more and they keeping eating up the most minutes but that's OK because they're the best we got. This is my whole point... Hutton will be that much better and with the tournament he's in now he'll be even more confident, he will sot in and Hammer's comming back so we're ok on the right side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 East or west is the "right side" if one looks North? Need agreement on this first... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Jay 22 Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 We aren't getting Duchene without giving up at least 1 of Horvat/Boeser/Hutton/McCann/Virtanen/5th overall. Sorry. I like the idea, but this deal really gives no motivation for the Avs to pull the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Blue Jay 22 said: We aren't getting Duchene without giving up at least 1 of Horvat/Boeser/Hutton/McCann/Virtanen/5th overall. Sorry. I like the idea, but this deal really gives no motivation for the Avs to pull the trigger. I would happily do 5th overall pick + hansen +Sbisa for Duchenne + COL 2nd sedin sedin Eriksson Bartschi Duchenne Sutter Burrows Horvat Etem Gaunce Granlund Dorsette Virtanen, Mccann in utica as 1st/2nd line players a trade like that allows us to perfectly transition our forward group in to the next generation future Beartschi Duchenne Boeser Mann Horvat Virtanen Gaunce Granlund Etem ---- Cassels ------ pretty solid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 49 minutes ago, captaincowbasher said: I know this might be a stretch but i feel the Club would be better served if next year the Sedins anchored the second line, therefore we would need a 1st line center, so... Trade- Edler(no trade clause I know) + Hansen and our 2nd 2016 for M.Duchene. Colorado might consider this as Edler still holds great value and slots into their 1st pair Right side. Hansen would look great playing on the Right side with Soderberg. Mackinnon of course takes the first line center with Landeskog on his right. The 2nd rd pick is self explanatory. Canucks do this because they can sign UFA Eriksson to play along side Duchene and i would honestly move McCann to the Left side and folks this line becomes our 1st line. Extremely fast, electric, talented and something for us to get excited about. Sutter moves to the wing with the Sedins and this team is starting to look really deep. Horvat, Baertschi and Jake on the third line and I think we have a legit chance to compete. Boeser is on his way and would look amazing on Duchene's right side in a couple of years. This trade does exactly what this Club needs. if i'm colorado, i want tanev, horvat and van's 1st pick.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 1 minute ago, smithers joe said: if i'm colorado, i want tanev, horvat and van's 1st pick.... Thats a ridiculous overpayment. In the last 2 years Duchene hasnt even made 60 points in either season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, BI3KSA- said: Thats a ridiculous overpayment. In the last 2 years Duchene hasnt even made 60 points in either season. that's what i would want...not edler, not hansen..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BI3KSA- Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 Just now, smithers joe said: that's what i would want...not edler, not hansen..... They can want that all they want but they would never get that value from us or anyone else. Massive overpayment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pears Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 We could get this guy for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 4 minutes ago, Pears said: We could get this guy for free $10, 000, 000.00 + per season. Fixed that for ya! But I know what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 cdc'ers always make trade proposals that are for players they want, giving up players they want to move...it doesn't happen that way...benning would have to go to colorado's gm and ask him who he'ld want for that players...then decide if he was willing to make that deal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 26 minutes ago, smithers joe said: if i'm colorado, i want tanev, horvat and van's 1st pick.... wow that is one way to absolutely shut down a trade proposal JB: Hi i am calling on Duchenne COL GM:I don't care who you are calling about, just give me your franchises' 2 best assets and say throw in a top pairing d man. Deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 21 minutes ago, smithers joe said: that's what i would want...not edler, not hansen..... Ryan Johansen did not even land 3 top assets. He landed a single young d man who could be an absolute stud but is not a stud yet and may never be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 1 minute ago, Canucks Curse said: wow that is one way to absolutely shut down a trade proposal JB: Hi i am calling on Duchenne COL GM:I don't care who you are calling about, just give me your franchises' 2 best assets and say throw in a top pairing d man. Deal? that's how it works......when the canucks wanted barry pederson from boston, boston wanted sedlebauer...canucks were convinced that he would be a super star, they said no...boston ended up taking cam neely.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 2 minutes ago, smithers joe said: that's how it works......when the canucks wanted barry pederson from boston, boston wanted sedlebauer...canucks were convinced that he would be a super star, they said no...boston ended up taking cam neely.... I don't get it, how does matt duchenne = horavt + a 5th overall + a top pairing d man???? (horvat has already hit 40 pints (19 less than duchenne) as a 20yr old while playing minimal PP time and with no good wingers, is better defensively than duchenne and is a future captain) smithers joe - the trades that have happened involving players arguably better than duchenne - Johansen, Jeff Carter (in his prime), Rick Nash, Phill Kessel, etc came nowhere near the return value of horvat, a 5th and tanev if you are proposing a trade for a player who is less than these but asking for much more than I do not know how to help you come back to earth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 6 minutes ago, smithers joe said: that's how it works......when the canucks wanted barry pederson from boston, boston wanted sedlebauer...canucks were convinced that he would be a super star, they said no...boston ended up taking cam neely.... at the time cam neely was underperforming, bo and tanev are not, I do not see your reasoning, plus you just asked for 3 top assets and in your example, the neely trade was neely and the 3rd overall pick 2 top assets, for 1 good player..where are u bro? smithers? I am sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithers joe Posted May 7, 2016 Share Posted May 7, 2016 your missing the point...trades are made when both sides are happy with the deal..benning can't go into a trade by telling the other gm, who he would give them for this player...they will discus different options...i'm saying that cdc just make trades that they feel would be great for their team...i wouldn't trade horvat and tanev but colorado could want someone that we don't want to give up..it isn't rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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