Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 I was just reading ( the province?) someone saying Tanev is problably not worth it to Dallas to trade their 3rd overall for Tanev AND our 5th overall !!!! To trade up 2 spots it is going to cost us Tanev +???? ....no way I would do that.... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: I was just reading ( the province?) someone saying Tanev is problably not worth it to Dallas to trade their 3rd overall for Tanev AND our 5th overall !!!! To trade up 2 spots it is going to cost us Tanev +???? ....no way I would do that.... Ahah must of misread or just an insane writer.. Hypothetically say we trade Tanev for #3 and we take Makar there tanev value >>>>> Makar for Dallas as makar is a minimum 2 years away the like 3 to make the league and 4/5 to make an impact if everything pans out and he develops well in uni. Tanev is is a top pairing shutdown d one of th best in the league on a cap friendly deal and a good age to match a Dallas core that wants to win now. #5 value is almost = to #3 trade value too on top of that we we only need to add to the deal to pay the premium that comes with the prestige of a top 3 pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 If we were to draft Makar I would be more comfortable doing it if we get Dallas pick so our other pick could take a safer C like Vilardi or Glass. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, R3aL said: Ahah must of misread or just an insane writer.. Hypothetically say we trade Tanev for #3 and we take Makar there tanev value >>>>> Makar for Dallas as makar is a minimum 2 years away the like 3 to make the league and 4/5 to make an impact if everything pans out and he develops well in uni. Tanev is is a top pairing shutdown d one of th best in the league on a cap friendly deal and a good age to match a Dallas core that wants to win now. #5 value is almost = to #3 trade value too on top of that we we only need to add to the deal to pay the premium that comes with the prestige of a top 3 pick. Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal reports the Dallas Stars have their eyes on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Chris Tanev. The Stars own the No. 3 overall pick in this month's entry draft and have been open about their willingness to move it for a current NHL player. Matheson doesn't believe Tanev is worth the third overall pick and wonders if the two teams could flip picks in a deal for Tanev. The Canucks own the fifth overall pick and would move up two spots in such a deal. Follow Jim Matheson @NHLbyMatty Dallas likes Canucks' Chris Tanev, second-pairing NHL D, but he can't be worth No. 3 overall pick in draft, right? Maybe a flip of picks too 5:41 PM - 13 Jun 2017 1515 Retweets 1515 likes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 2 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal reports the Dallas Stars have their eyes on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Chris Tanev. The Stars own the No. 3 overall pick in this month's entry draft and have been open about their willingness to move it for a current NHL player. Matheson doesn't believe Tanev is worth the third overall pick and wonders if the two teams could flip picks in a deal for Tanev. The Canucks own the fifth overall pick and would move up two spots in such a deal. Follow Jim Matheson @NHLbyMatty Dallas likes Canucks' Chris Tanev, second-pairing NHL D, but he can't be worth No. 3 overall pick in draft, right? Maybe a flip of picks too 5:41 PM - 13 Jun 2017 1515 Retweets 1515 likes If that were to happen I would be outraged unless hischier fell to 3, and even then thatbwould be pretty crazy to give up to move up 2 spots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Was this forum down for everyone else for a couple of days? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R3aL Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 Just now, Sugar baby watermelon said: Was this forum down for everyone else for a couple of days? Yea second time - both really long down times 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Sugar baby watermelon said: Was this forum down for everyone else for a couple of days? Yup... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar baby watermelon Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 7 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Yup... That was way too long, haha, I kept checking periodically throughout the day. Hacked maybe? worst time to shut them down for maintenance or whatever with the ED and draft coming up 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicklas Bo Hunter Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, R3aL said: If that were to happen I would be outraged unless hischier fell to 3, and even then thatbwould be pretty crazy to give up to move up 2 spots he doesn't say that it will be 5th overall as the pick being flip flopped. could easily be something like Tanev+ 33+ 112 for 3rd overall+ 39+ 132 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocksterh8 Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, R3aL said: If that were to happen I would be outraged unless hischier fell to 3, and even then thatbwould be pretty crazy to give up to move up 2 spots 7 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal reports the Dallas Stars have their eyes on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Chris Tanev. The Stars own the No. 3 overall pick in this month's entry draft and have been open about their willingness to move it for a current NHL player. Matheson doesn't believe Tanev is worth the third overall pick and wonders if the two teams could flip picks in a deal for Tanev. The Canucks own the fifth overall pick and would move up two spots in such a deal. Follow Jim Matheson @NHLbyMatty Dallas likes Canucks' Chris Tanev, second-pairing NHL D, but he can't be worth No. 3 overall pick in draft, right? Maybe a flip of picks too 5:41 PM - 13 Jun 2017 1515 Retweets 1515 likes Wrong, Tanev is absolutely worth the 3rd overall pick and here's why. He is one of the BEST defensive D's in the entire league, exactly what Dallas needs if the want in the play off's next year. Had rave reviews from McDavid and his D partner at Worlds. It's a weaker draft this year He would make Dallas a whole lot better instantly. Jim holds the cards in this deal. Tanev straight up for the 3rd or nothing. Dallas needs Tanev more than Canucks need the 3rd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rollieo Del Fuego Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 minute ago, Rocksterh8 said: Wrong, Tanev is absolutely worth the 3rd overall pick and here's why. He is one of the BEST defensive D's in the entire league, exactly what Dallas needs if the want in the play off's next year. Had rave reviews from McDavid and his D partner at Worlds. It's a weaker draft this year He would make Dallas a whole lot better instantly. Jim holds the cards in this deal. Tanev straight up for the 3rd or nothing. Dallas needs Tanev more than Canucks need the 3rd. Well....I agree but I do think it would take Tanev plus say the #55 pick to entice Dallas to part with the #3 pick and keep our own #5 pick...I would do that and maybe throw in a 7th round pick if needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 26 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal reports the Dallas Stars have their eyes on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Chris Tanev. The Stars own the No. 3 overall pick in this month's entry draft and have been open about their willingness to move it for a current NHL player. Matheson doesn't believe Tanev is worth the third overall pick and wonders if the two teams could flip picks in a deal for Tanev. The Canucks own the fifth overall pick and would move up two spots in such a deal. Follow Jim Matheson @NHLbyMatty Dallas likes Canucks' Chris Tanev, second-pairing NHL D, but he can't be worth No. 3 overall pick in draft, right? Maybe a flip of picks too 5:41 PM - 13 Jun 2017 1515 Retweets 1515 likes Well, I guess it's a good thing that it isn't up to Jim Matheson then, isn't it? Maybe he'd be good with Tanev to Edmonton with a swap of first rounders... regards, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 1 hour ago, ForsbergTheGreat said: I don't see vilardi getting pass the av's to be honest. and I don't buy the hype on the kid dominating the AJ, i personally like Walsh or Ferraro better, exact same skill sets, both were able to dominate lesser leagues, and less of a risk taking them since they will be in the 50-70 range. Exposure is the main thing that sets them apart take away his 4 points game in WJAC and he's a mid to late first round pick. I'll be very disappointed if the take Makar at #5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollumpus Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 11 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Well....I agree but I do think it would take Tanev plus say the #55 pick to entice Dallas to part with the #3 pick and keep our own #5 pick...I would do that and maybe throw in a 7th round pick if needed. Is taking one of their cap dump goalies still part of the package? If so, then there should be no swap of picks. And they have to add. A lot. regards, G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 On 6/12/2017 at 9:06 AM, 73 Percent said: I'm bored. Give me a price you'd be okay with and a price you wouldn't be okay with. According to Devils fans on HF: #5 + Horvat #5 + two of Tanev, Juloevi, Boeser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 10 minutes ago, stawns said: I'll be very disappointed if the take Makar at #5 I'm not saying I like Makar that much myself, but if JB took him I think it's a reflection of the weak draft imo. Otherwise, there would be absolutely NO way you leave one of Mittelsdat, Glass, Vilardi, Heiskanen, on the table - which is what will happen if Makar is taken at 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaudette Celly Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 48 minutes ago, Rollieo Del Fuego said: Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Journal reports the Dallas Stars have their eyes on Vancouver Canucks defenceman Chris Tanev. The Stars own the No. 3 overall pick in this month's entry draft and have been open about their willingness to move it for a current NHL player. Matheson doesn't believe Tanev is worth the third overall pick and wonders if the two teams could flip picks in a deal for Tanev. The Canucks own the fifth overall pick and would move up two spots in such a deal. 1. Give up Tanev to get the same guy you might have gotten without the trade. 2. Matheson's been around long enough to know Tanev's worth FAR more than a two-position swap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SID.IS.SID.ME.IS.ME Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 4 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: According to Devils fans on HF: #5 + Horvat #5 + two of Tanev, Juloevi, Boeser Well that settles it. The most trusted and authoritative voices in hockey have spoken and we now know the values involved. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanuck Posted June 14, 2017 Share Posted June 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, Hutton Wink said: According to Devils fans on HF: #5 + Horvat #5 + two of Tanev, Juloevi, Boeser LOL - I know you didn't make that up HW, but that's a complete joke. In a weaksauce draft like this year where even the top guys are possibly only 2nd line forwards at best they want that... Guess I can't blame them - I'd be asking for OVERPAYMENT too if I was JB and got GIFTED that pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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