Ryan Strome Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 1 minute ago, Violator said: The first ships are gonna cost more its just like hiring someone without experience after a while that person should be experienced and should be able to train the next person.costs will go down when the infastructure is in place and suppliers are in a grove.we shouldnt give up on what we are currently building because we ignored that industry. This interesting considering our economy was at its best when Canada was building all it's own military equipment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: This interesting considering our economy was at its best when Canada was building all it's own military equipment. Its cost us more than its saved. Look at the fast ferries the originals were failures but if we built more they would have cost less and created and industry that bc needs badly. Edited June 2, 2018 by Violator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Canada needs to rebuild itself. So silly to be selling raw resources without doing a fair amount of processing them. So much economic and revenue growth missed out on. Edited June 2, 2018 by gurn spelling 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Violator said: Its cost us more than its saved. Look at the fast ferries the originals were failures but if we built more they would have cost less and created and industry that bc needs badly. Absolutely we should develop more things here and sell them around the world. Canada atm is upgrading New Zealand navy ships that is the first time Canada has done this for another country in a long time. Canada is a very high tech advanced country we should make money off our intellectual qualities. Another example would be the chinook helicopters we bought off Boeing. We upgraded those to an advanced level now we get royalties off all those variants sold world wide. Our lavs built in Canada and thousands sold around the world. Edited June 2, 2018 by Ryan Strome 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, gurn said: Canada needs to rebuild itself. So silly to be selling raw resources without doing a fair amount of processing them. So much economic and revenue growth missed out on. Canada needs to immediately slow down our sales of raw resources. Our governments have always gone after a quick buck. I would like to see so much more processed in Canada. Edited June 2, 2018 by Ryan Strome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Absolutely we should develop more things here and sell them around the world. Canada atm is upgrading New Zealand navy ships that is the first time Canada has done this for another country in a long time. Canada is a very high tech advanced country we should make money off our intellectual qualities. Another example would be the chinook helicopters we bought off Boeing. We upgraded those to an advanced level now we get royalties off all those variants sold world wide. Our lavs built in Canada and thousands sold around the world. Just like oil and gas we sell our finished manufactured stuff all over the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, Violator said: Just like oil and gas we sell our finished manufactured stuff all over the world. Canada needs to be selling refined oil but nobody wants refineries built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 2, 2018 Author Share Posted June 2, 2018 6 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Canada needs to be selling refined oil but nobody wants refineries built. I do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Just now, gurn said: I do. I do as well. I remember in BCs 2013?? Election there was talk about building the worlds most environmentally friendly refinery. Edited June 2, 2018 by Ryan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ryan Strome said: Canada needs to be selling refined oil but nobody wants refineries built. Wont happen chances are redwater will be the last new refinery built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 2 hours ago, Ryan Strome said: I agree with the Arrow Jimmy but the government has ruled that out unfortunately. I'm not sure how much you study jets but the Euro fighter is probably the best non stealth air superiority jet in the world. And let's be honest stealth capability is next to useless as the Russians can detect stealth aircrafts already. does it freak you out at all how much you and I are agreeing lately? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostsof1915 Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) Sigh. Could just have used A-4 Skyhawks, and helicopters. Edited June 2, 2018 by Ghostsof1915 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jimmy McGill said: does it freak you out at all how much you and I are agreeing lately? Just a little. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 1 hour ago, Violator said: Wont happen chances are redwater will be the last new refinery built. Dying industry. I am even surprised the Kinder line is being expanded.... industry will be over in 10 years..... 20 years tops.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violator Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 Just now, kingofsurrey said: Dying industry. I am even surprised the Kinder line is being expanded.... industry will be over in 10 years..... 20 years tops.... Try forty or fifty without ww3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 2, 2018 Share Posted June 2, 2018 8 minutes ago, Violator said: Try forty or fifty without ww3 Kinder Morgan investment...... JT would have been smarter to put into this new company.... called Blackberry - they make these real cool phones with keyboards...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted June 3, 2018 Author Share Posted June 3, 2018 New acquisition procedure further delays CSC decisionIan Keddie, Toronto - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly 29 May 2018A new naval acquisition procedure meant to ensure more complete bidder proposals will delay a planned decision on the Royal Canadian Navy’s (RCN) future warship for another three months, the Canadian government has said.Public Services and Procurement Canada (PSPC) originally planned on announcing a winning bid for the Canadian Surface Combatant (CSC) programme in the second quarter of 2018, but the PSPC now expects this decision to be made later in the year.The delay is a result of complications stemming from an amendment to the request for proposals (RFP) that requires greater feedback between potential bidders and the government, and adds a new acquisition wrinkle the PSPC could use for other future programmes." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 /\/\/\ Well that's just great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CBH1926 Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 On 5/31/2018 at 8:18 PM, Ryan Strome said: I think there was reports one was shot down or hit or something out of Syria. Hard to know what to believe though, you have Russia, U.S, Israel and Syria all telling different stories. Very true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Strome Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 (edited) Trade dispute could leave U.S. firms out of the running to sell military equipment to Canada U.S. President Donald Trump’s tirade against Canada and threats to punish the country could undermine efforts by American firms trying to sell fighter jets and other military equipment to the Canadian Forces, warn defence and industry analysts. Trump’s tariffs come at a time when European firms are courting the Canadian government, particularly on big-ticket defence items such as aircraft and warships One European firm, Airbus, has already been talking with Canadian officials to pitch its plan to build fighter jets in Quebec as it positions itself to win the $16-billion deal to replace CF-18 aircraft. An Italian aerospace firm, Leonardo, is looking at building helicopters in Nova Scotia as it moves towards negotiations for a search-and-rescue aircraft modernization project the Department of National Defence says will be worth between $1 billion and $5 billion. Trump has hit Canadian aluminum and steel with tariffs, claiming their import is a threat to national security. After the weekend G7 meeting and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s reaffirming that Canada would reciprocate with tariffs on specific U.S. products, Trump vowed more economic grief that will “cost a lot of money for the people of Canada.” Trump’s move comes at a time when European firms are courting the Canadian government, particularly on big-ticket defence items such as aircraft and warships. Billions of dollars in new purchases are potentially at stake and European firms had a strong presence at the recent CANSEC military equipment trade show in Ottawa. “Trump certainly isn’t helping U.S. defence companies who want to sell to Canada,” said Martin Shadwick, a defence analyst in Toronto. “It would be very difficult at this point from a political optics point of view for the government to announce awarding contracts to any American firm.” Shadwick said whether that situation will continue for the next several years, when for instance the decision on new fighter jets is supposed to be made, would depend on any further actions by the president. Two U.S. aircraft, the Boeing Super Hornet and the Lockheed Martin F-35, are among the top contenders in that jet competition. The other three aircraft are from European companies. An earlier trade dispute with Canada has already backfired on Boeing and the Trump administration, costing the U.S. billions in fighter jet sales. Last year Boeing complained to the U.S. Commerce Department that Canadian subsidies for Quebec-based Bombardier allowed it to sell its civilian passenger aircraft in the U.S. at cut-rate prices. As a result, the Trump administration brought in a tariff of almost 300 per cent against Bombardier aircraft sold in the U.S. In retaliation, Canada decided against buying 18 new Super Hornet fighter jets from Boeing. That deal would have been worth more than US$5 billion. Christyn Cianfarani, president of the Canadian Association of Defence and Security Industries, said it is too early to determine the impact of the U.S. tariffs on the domestic defence industry. “Tariffs are never good for trade or business,” she added. “CADSI is monitoring the issue and consulting our members to better understand the potential impact to Canadian firms, both in terms of the direct impact of any tariffs and the more indirect, long term impact on supply chains and market access,” she said. There is growing concern that Canadian aviation firms could be hurt by Trump’s aluminum tariffs. The Aerospace Industries Association of Canada did not respond to a request for comment. But its counterpart in the U.S. has voiced concern that American aerospace companies could feel pain. In March, the U.S. Aerospace Industries Association noted it was deeply concerned about Trump’s tariffs on steel and aluminum as it “will raise costs and disrupt the supply chain, putting U.S. global competitiveness at risk.” “There is also a significant threat for retaliation from other countries towards American made products,” the association noted in a statement. Canada is the largest exporter of aluminum and steel to the U.S. http://montrealgazette.com/news/politics/trade-dispute-could-leave-u-s-firms-out-of-the-running-to-sell-military-equipment-to-canada/wcm/b3279136-5980-4d9b-9fe9-919034c4d735 Edited June 15, 2018 by Ryan Strome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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