Gurn Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 So the Cap is going to be $83 mill next season. 1 How many teams will no longer be in cap trouble? 2 How much harder will it be for the Canucks to utilize their cap space to take back bad contracts in return for draft picks and prospects. Just seems so Canuck luck, finally have huge cap room but now everyone has some space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewbieCanuckFan Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 A question to consider is are there any teams struggling to get to the cap floor? Pssstttt...we’ve got this guy Loui. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tre Mac Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I cringe at that cap space that Benning and Aqualinni will have this summer: Little Things Del Zaster Dr. Schaller Gags Put whatever spin you want on it, the UFA signings have been atrocious under Bennings regime. If only they had a voice of reason in the front office to preach patience... We all know patience will get thrown out the window this summer and they'll overpay for players that'll come here and do sweet @#$% all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodycanuckleheads Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 25 minutes ago, gurn said: 2 How much harder will it be for the Canucks to utilize their cap space to take back bad contracts in return for draft picks and prospects. Ummm, that's always been impossible. We have Aquilini as an owner. He'll never allow us to give up and take on other team's trash. We'll get more players like Beagle, Schaller, Gagner, Loui, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, gurn said: So the Cap is going to be $83 mill next season. 1 How many teams will no longer be in cap trouble? 2 How much harder will it be for the Canucks to utilize their cap space to take back bad contracts in return for draft picks and prospects. Just seems so Canuck luck, finally have huge cap room but now everyone has some space? I think we're now out of the phase where we want to collect bad contracts. We currently have 9 mil well under-utilized for this season and next with Gags and Loui. We can handle 1 if Loui doesn't improve offensively but another big anchor would hurt us going forward. With 34 mil tho we could potentially go after a guy like Myers but man thats risky too, if you give him 7+ which he'll want if he doesn't pan out thats going to sting. We do need some defensive upgrades tho so it'll be an interesting off season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 7 minutes ago, Tre Mac said: I cringe at that cap space that Benning and Aqualinni will have this summer: Little Things Del Zaster Dr. Schaller Gags Put whatever spin you want on it, the UFA signings have been atrocious under Bennings regime. If only they had a voice of reason in the front office to preach patience... We all know patience will get thrown out the window this summer and they'll overpay for players that'll come here and do sweet @#$% all. I hope we use our cap room for EK, and a real number one goalie. (Would like a knuckle dragger like Reaves too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Just now, Alflives said: I hope we use our cap room for EK, and a real number one goalie. (Would like a knuckle dragger like Reaves too.) EK is going to stay put, he's on the record as being "very happy" there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Jimmy McGill said: EK is going to stay put, he's on the record as being "very happy" there. I heard that too. I'm hoping Evander does something really stupid around EK's wife. Come on Evander! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Don't be surprised if Bobby Lu hangs them up in the next season or 2 and that has cap repercussions for the Canucks. Depending on the contracts that Boeser and EP sign, the recapture penalty could be the highest paid Canuck for the 2021-22 season. Retirement year 2019 3 years at $2.9m 2020 2 years at $4.3m 2021 1 year at $8.5m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: Don't be surprised if Bobby Lu hangs them up in the next season or 2 and that has cap repercussions for the Canucks. Depending on the contracts that Boeser and EP sign, the recapture penalty could be the highest paid Canuck for the 2021-22 season. Retirement year 2019 3 years at $2.9m 2020 2 years at $4.3m 2021 1 year at $8.5m With the new Seattle team coming, and a new CBA too, will teams get a couple buyouts? IF so, could we buy out our portion of Loui's contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 14 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: Don't be surprised if Bobby Lu hangs them up in the next season or 2 and that has cap repercussions for the Canucks. Depending on the contracts that Boeser and EP sign, the recapture penalty could be the highest paid Canuck for the 2021-22 season. Retirement year 2019 3 years at $2.9m 2020 2 years at $4.3m 2021 1 year at $8.5m No chance Luongo doesn't go on LTIR if he doesn't finish his contract. With his injury history, it's a slam dunk, so I have 0 worries about the cap recapture penalty. So far there's been 0 contracts like these without the player going on LTIR instead of retiring. Luongo isn't going to be the first with his bad hips and knees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gurn Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: Don't be surprised if Bobby Lu hangs them up in the next season or 2 and that has cap repercussions for the Canucks. Depending on the contracts that Boeser and EP sign, the recapture penalty could be the highest paid Canuck for the 2021-22 season. Retirement year 2019 3 years at $2.9m 2020 2 years at $4.3m 2021 1 year at $8.5m I wonder if Canuck's management has any "insider info" regarding this penalty and whether the league will still uphold it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 6 minutes ago, gurn said: I wonder if Canuck's management has any "insider info" regarding this penalty and whether the league will still uphold it? No inside info needed because there's 0 chance the canucks will be hit with the recapture penalty. The NHL let hossa finish his contract on LTIR with his skin condition. There's no way they'll challenge luongo ending his career on LTIR when he has ample recent injury history. If he doesn't finish his contract, he'll go on LTIR with bad hips or knees. I'm not worried about luongo's contract at all with 0 players being forced to retire instead of going on LTIR. Zetterberg is just the latest example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuxfanabroad Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, gurn said: So the Cap is going to be $83 mill next season. 1 How many teams will no longer be in cap trouble? 2 How much harder will it be for the Canucks to utilize their cap space to take back bad contracts in return for draft picks and prospects. Just seems so Canuck luck, finally have huge cap room but now everyone has some space? Likely taking cues from The Fed. Since all countries just seem to rack up huge debt, just print into oblivion. Watch fiat curriencies become tp, yet Wall St keeps expanding like some ludicrous glutton. Got this runaway cap-number, yet watching games(especially in US markets) only see empty seats. "Grow the GAME!" they ranted. Something's rotten in Denmark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, Alflives said: With the new Seattle team coming, and a new CBA too, will teams get a couple buyouts? IF so, could we buy out our portion of Loui's contract? That's an interesting angle. Not sure how that would work, would still end up being a couple of million on the cap for 2-3 years I'd suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GritGrinder Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 30 minutes ago, FireGillis said: No chance Luongo doesn't go on LTIR if he doesn't finish his contract. With his injury history, it's a slam dunk, so I have 0 worries about the cap recapture penalty. So far there's been 0 contracts like these without the player going on LTIR instead of retiring. Luongo isn't going to be the first with his bad hips and knees. Hahaha...there is definitely a chance and its not anywhere near a slam dunk. Lu could easily finish this season healthy and the Panthers miss the playoffs and he decides he doesn't wanna come back at nearly 41 and retires. He probably only gets another 20-25 starts this season and his injuries lately haven't kept him out too long so trying to go on the LTIR could be problematic. Also Hossa and Zetterberg were helping out their current team with their LTIR "injuries", I doubt Lu gives a f**k about the Canucks and the Panthers penalty is much less than the Canucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireGillis Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 17 minutes ago, GritGrinder said: Hahaha...there is definitely a chance and its not anywhere near a slam dunk. Lu could easily finish this season healthy and the Panthers miss the playoffs and he decides he doesn't wanna come back at nearly 41 and retires. He probably only gets another 20-25 starts this season and his injuries lately haven't kept him out too long so trying to go on the LTIR could be problematic. Also Hossa and Zetterberg were helping out their current team with their LTIR "injuries", I doubt Lu gives a f**k about the Canucks and the Panthers penalty is much less than the Canucks. Hossa never went on IR ever before in the past with his skin condition. Zetterberg played 82 games last year. So finishing the year healthy is meaningless. Luongo will finish that contract or finish it on LTIR. No worries at all about it. I don't think Luongo would be petty enough to screw us because we sent him home to Florida, which made the wife happy and happy wife equals happy life! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JM_ Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 3 hours ago, Alflives said: I heard that too. I'm hoping Evander does something really stupid around EK's wife. Come on Evander! oh man.... lets not be that desperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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