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aliboy Posted June 19, 2020 Share Posted June 19, 2020 (edited) Jody Vance is saying that the Toronto Star is reporting that #34 Matthews has tested positive for COVID-19 but the story isn't there, so may have been pulled. Edited June 19, 2020 by aliboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 19, 2020 Author Share Posted June 19, 2020 2 hours ago, mll said: This can shut down hockey quick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Canuck Surfer said: This can shut down hockey quick... If it happens when play resumes it could. This actually isn’t the worst thing to happen now. This will give them a good test for their protocols and identify any risks that they may have overlooked. It would be interesting to see how these players were infected. Whether it was passed by other staff members or they brought it in themselves. Basically they’ve got about 3 weeks to dial their safety measures in. I would imagine players will be much better protected once they reach their hub cities rather than in current cities like Tampa. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, DeNiro said: If it happens when play resumes it could. This actually isn’t the worst thing to happen now. This will give them a good test for their protocols and identify any risks that they may have overlooked. It would be interesting to see how these players were infected. Whether it was passed by other staff members or they brought it in themselves. Basically they’ve got about 3 weeks to dial their safety measures in. I would imagine players will be much better protected once they reach their hub cities rather than in current cities like Tampa. This year is toast. Put a fork in it. Playing sports during a Pandemic viral infection makes zero sense. I get it that fans are missing sports.... but surely it is not risking the lives of our atheltes and their families during these difficult times. STAY SAFE everyone. These times will pass. Hug your loved ones.... life is precious. Edited June 20, 2020 by kingofsurrey 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 7 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: This year is toast. Put a fork in it. Playing sports during a Pandemic viral infection makes zero sense. I get it that fans are missing sports.... but surely it is not risking the lives of our atheltes and their families during these difficult times. STAY SAFE everyone. These times will pass. Hug your loved ones.... life is precious. A 0.001% chance of dying? They have a higher chance of getting hit by a bus on their way to the rink. Enough with the fear mongering. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingofsurrey Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, DeNiro said: A 0.001% chance of dying? They have a higher chance of getting hit by a bus on their way to the rink. Enough with the fear mongering. Tell that to Austin Mathews..... People are programmed to protect the ones they love. Enough with the putting your life saving on roulette black........ The restart of our economy needs to be slow and steady. Go join a Trump rally if you don't see the risk in starting up to quickly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 44 minutes ago, kingofsurrey said: Tell that to Austin Mathews..... People are programmed to protect the ones they love. Enough with the putting your life saving on roulette black........ The restart of our economy needs to be slow and steady. Go join a Trump rally if you don't see the risk in starting up to quickly... Austin Mathews will be fine. Probably on the ice in 3 weeks. The restart of the economy and what the NHL has planned are two completely separate things. They’ve gone through extensive planning to make sure that once the season resumes players will be kept safe. The players that are at risk right now are ones in states that have started opening up too soon. Get them out of there and you solve the problem. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-Money Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 In my Chel team’s messenger thread today: Guy - “Matthews just tested positive” Me - “Best NHL cover curse ever!” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, Canuck Surfer said: This can shut down hockey quick... Or the opposite effect. Teams/the league want their players to be safe. Players testing positive shows that they haven't been. The league has no control over players until they enter their protocol. Phase 2 is voluntary and many are still training outside of it. Sweden never went in lockdown. Players have been skating in groups for months now. Minnesota is the state with the most NHLers. The Wild don't have ice up because none wish to enter the NHLs protocol. It's significantly more restrictive than what players can do outside of it. NHLers including Boeser are skating in groups at rinks all over town. It feels unlikely that they would all be virus free. The risk of spread is probably higher than in the NHL protocol, where there is testing and very strict social distancing measures. Would think that teams want to get their players back in the fold and tested. The bubble they intend to set up is very restrictive and probably safer than what some players have been doing up to now. If the league doesn't resume players can continue to do whatever they want. They are probably not going to self-isolate - several haven't despite the NHLs recommendation. There will be rinks open where they can continue to skate and train in groups. There's no testing and likely not the same sanitisation process at these rinks vs the NHLs either. Those are often shared facilities. They are more exposed than they would be in the NHLs bubble. Edited June 20, 2020 by mll 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 Per McKenzie on Insider Trading the league would be announcing testing results rather than teams going forward. Players and teams won't be disclosed. 11 players tested positive on over 200 tested in phase 2. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mll Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mackcanuck said: Feels unrealistic. Phase 2 is voluntary. Only 200 players have been tested. Assuming each team brings in 30 players, there's over 500 more that are not in phase 2 and haven't been tested. Would think that many more players are going to test positive. For the bubble to be safe they have to ensure that anyone entering the bubble is virus free. They need the testing and the necessary quarantine time. Not all players had the same access to ice. There's the risk of injury if training camp is too short after such a long time off. Edited June 20, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 32 minutes ago, mll said: Feels unrealistic. Phase 2 is voluntary. Only 200 players have been tested. Assuming each team brings in 30 players, there's over 500 more that are not in phase 2 and haven't been tested. Would think that many more players are going to test positive. For the bubble to be safe they have to ensure that anyone entering the bubble is virus free. They need the testing and the necessary quarantine time. Not all players had the same access to ice. There's the risk of injury if training camp is too short after such a long time off. I would imagine that’s all built into their plan. I really doubt they think that no more players test positive. The full scale testing and the quarantining will happen in phase 3, which sounds like around July 10th. That means players should be travelling to their cities and getting tested next week in case they need to quarantine 14 days before camp. Once training camps start that’s when things need to be in full lockdown. Meaning limited contact with the public, masks everywhere but practice and workouts, and regular testing. The fact that transmission is very low for people who are asymptomatic makes it easier to contain spreads. Auston Mathews didn’t even spread it to Andersen and they lived together. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DeNiro said: I would imagine that’s all built into their plan. I really doubt they think that no more players test positive. The full scale testing and the quarantining will happen in phase 3, which sounds like around July 10th. That means players should be travelling to their cities and getting tested next week in case they need to quarantine 14 days before camp. Once training camps start that’s when things need to be in full lockdown. Meaning limited contact with the public, masks everywhere but practice and workouts, and regular testing. The fact that transmission is very low for people who are asymptomatic makes it easier to contain spreads. Auston Mathews didn’t even spread it to Andersen and they lived together. Except the league can't force players to enter phase 2. It's only at phase 3 scheduled for 10 July that testing will happen for everyone. A player in the US can stay where he is and travel to his US team only for 10 July. Staal and Parise are skating in Minnesota but not as part of phase 2. There's also no ice at the Wild's because none of the NHLers skating in Minnesota are looking to enter phase 2. Weber was telling Montreal media maybe last week that he was not looking to return to Montreal because he had access to all he needs in Kelowna. Maybe those positive cases changes things and some might elect to enter the protocol to get tested. Some players are still undecided to return and want more details before taking a decision. It's unlikely that the league will be able to test everyone before the start of phase 3. Edited June 20, 2020 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, mll said: Except the league can't force players to enter phase 2. It's only at phase 3 scheduled for 10 July that testing will happen for everyone. A player in the US can stay where he is and travel to his US team only for 10 July. Staal and Parise are skating in Minnesota but not as part of phase 2 - they aren't being tested. There's also no ice at the Wild's because none of the NHLers skating in Minnesota are looking to enter phase 2. Weber was telling Montreal media maybe last week that he was not looking to return to Montreal because he had access to all he needs in Kelowna. Maybe those positive cases changes things and some might elect to enter the protocol to get tested. Some players are still undecided to return and want more details before taking a decision. It's unlikely that the league will be able to test everyone before the start of phase 3. You’re right they can’t force them to, but the players are going to have take it upon themselves to get tested at the very least before they travel to their home cities. With the latest outbreak I would think the reality maybe hit home a little more. If they want to take part in training camp they’re going to have to make sure they’re not infected well beforehand. Otherwise you risk missing all of training camp, and even worse infecting your teammates. Edited June 20, 2020 by DeNiro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 If I was Tampa Bay I would be arranging to have training camp in Kelowna right about now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuck Surfer Posted June 20, 2020 Author Share Posted June 20, 2020 14 hours ago, mll said: Or the opposite effect. https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/afl/australian-rules-afl-game-postponed-as-player-found-coronavirus-positive/ar-BB15K8bQ?ocid=spartanntp As soon as someone with direct contact with a player tests positive things shut down quickly. And as you say later? The players have not been in a safety bubble. There will be players & staff consistent with the general public. Test positive... It takes 2 or 3 weeks for the community transmissions to fully surface. The illness to run its course. 16 hours ago, DeNiro said: A 0.001% chance of dying? Your math is out of context. In America 5% of the population has tested positive. Over 120,000 people dead having already been hit by a bus so to speak... Depending on where, 0.5 to 5% of confirmed cases die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted June 20, 2020 Share Posted June 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, Canuck Surfer said: https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/afl/australian-rules-afl-game-postponed-as-player-found-coronavirus-positive/ar-BB15K8bQ?ocid=spartanntp As soon as someone with direct contact with a player tests positive things shut down quickly. And as you say later? The players have not been in a safety bubble. There will be players & staff consistent with the general public. Test positive... It takes 2 or 3 weeks for the community transmissions to fully surface. The illness to run its course. Your math is out of context. In America 5% of the population has tested positive. Over 120,000 people dead having already been hit by a bus so to speak... Depending on where, 0.5 to 5% of confirmed cases die. I threw out a random number, in all likehood the chance of dying is probably lower than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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