aGENT Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: More like $&!#ty cap management for years happened. Relying on the cap to increase every year is just stupid. We had cap to re-sign him before the pandemic despite "$&!#ty cap management". We didn't after. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 1 minute ago, aGENT said: We had cap to re-sign him before the pandemic despite "$&!#ty cap management". We didn't after. We had the cap either way other than Benning: 1. Relied on a huge cap increase, and 2. Prioritized trying to get OEL and his horrible contract and signing Holtby and Virtanen. 3. Could not find any way to move out one of his many terrible contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Toffoli and Gaudette would help this team far more than any of the plugs and fillers and overpriced vets Benning seems to be in love with. This team can't score or even generate good chances consistently. The minute he signed Pearson the Toffoli screw up looked even worse. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 47 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Toffoli and Gaudette would help this team far more than any of the plugs and fillers and overpriced vets Benning seems to be in love with. This team can't score or even generate good chances consistently. The minute he signed Pearson the Toffoli screw up looked even worse. To you maybe... not to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, wallstreetamigo said: Toffoli and Gaudette would help this team far more than any of the plugs and fillers and overpriced vets Benning seems to be in love with. This team can't score or even generate good chances consistently. The minute he signed Pearson the Toffoli screw up looked even worse. Gaudette trending at -32 / 82 game season not really crying about that guy leaving Toff yes but Holy Moly the Goalie does our bottom six ever look identical right now what is that saying about trying the same thing over and over again? Ol' Jimmer has identified what our bottom six will look like, just has not decided which pieces he likes best 5'11" 188, 0-0-0-2--21 its the perfect formula Tyler Motte C 24 6 3 9 14 0 1995-03-10 25 St. Clair, MI 5.10 192 Antoine Roussel L 35 1 3 4 37 4 1989-11-21 30 Roubaix, France 5.11 199 13 Jayce Hawryluk C 21 1 1 2 9 -4 1996-01-01 24 Yorkton, SASK 5.11 196 44 Tyler Graovac C 5 0 0 0 0 -1 1993-04-27 27 Brampton, ONT 6.05 208 56 Marc Michaelis L 8 0 0 0 2 -3 1995-07-31 25 Mannheim, Germany 5.11 187 15 Matthew Highmore C 9 0 0 0 2 -2 1996-02-27 24 Halifax, NS 5.11 188 72 Travis Boyd C 10 0 0 0 0 -4 1993-09-14 26 Hopkins, MN 6.00 190 24 Jimmy Vesey L 11 0 0 0 0 -7 1993-05-26 27 Boston, MA 6.03 202 clearly Gro and Vesey are too tall Rooster is a + player so they are out Motte scores too much, must be a top 6er Edited May 5, 2021 by lmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, spur1 said: To you maybe... not to me. Pearson at 3.25 or Toffoli at 4.25. Its not even a comparison at this point. I immediately dismiss the opinion of anyone who cannot admit that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, wallstreetamigo said: Pearson at 3.25 or Toffoli at 4.25. Its not even a comparison at this point. I immediately dismiss the opinion of anyone who cannot admit that. Admit what? Edited May 5, 2021 by spur1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Buzzsaw* Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 5 hours ago, aGENT said: The plan was to re-sign him. Then a global pandemic happened. Every other team had to deal with the pandemic. The difference with the Canucks is they had no cushion at all due to Benning's poor management. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, spur1 said: Admit what? That chasing OEL to the point of letting Toffoli walk (without even really talking to him or his agent) and then conpounding it by re-signing Pearson to the same total term for a million less and Virtanen as well was a seriously bad set of decisions by Benning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Every other team had to deal with the pandemic. The difference with the Canucks is they had no cushion at all due to Benning's poor management. This x 1 billion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: That chasing OEL to the point of letting Toffoli walk (without even really talking to him or his agent) and then conpounding it by re-signing Pearson to the same total term for a million less and Virtanen as well was a seriously bad set of decisions by Benning. What the heck does Pearson and his contract for next year have to do with not signing TT? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, spur1 said: What the heck does Pearson and his contract for next year have to do with not signing TT? Had he signed Toffoli, with the emergence of Hoglander this year, Pearson would not have been necessary in the top 6 and as such they could have traded him or signed him to a contract more in line with 2 of his last 3 years of 3rd line level production and being decidedly average at anything rather than ignoring those 2 years and signing him based on last years career year. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Had he signed Toffoli, with the emergence of Hoglander this year, Pearson would not have been necessary in the top 6 and as such they could have traded him or signed him to a contract more in line with 2 of his last 3 years of 3rd line level production and being decidedly average at anything rather than ignoring those 2 years and signing him based on last years career year. but but but he is a glue guy Jimmy can't trade a glue guy the team would fall apart Edited May 5, 2021 by lmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, lmm said: but but but he is a glue guy Jimmy can't trade a glue guy The problem is Pearson as a 3 year solution actually just holds back Horvat from centering a true scoring line. Pearson is an ok player but severely streaky offensively. If this is what they want Horvat to be, then find a couple of talented wingers to put in the top 6, split up EP and Miller to center the top 2, and use Horvat as the shutdown 3C. Its a waste of Horvat really. Miller-EP-Podkolzin Hoglander-Horvat-Boeser Pearson-3C-Lind Or some version of this with an actual elite defensive 3rd line center would give those top 2 lines more chance to create offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 Just now, lmm said: but but but he is a glue guy Jimmy can't trade a glue guy The problem is Pearson as a 3 year solution actually just holds back Horvat from centering a true scoring line. Pearson is an ok player but severely streaky offensively. If this is what they want Horvat to be, then find a couple of talented wingers to put in the top 6, split up EP and Miller to center the top 2, and use Horvat as the shutdown 3C. Its a waste of Horvat really. Miller-EP-Podkolzin Hoglander-Horvat-Boeser Pearson-3C-Lind Or some version of this with an actual elite defensive 3rd line center would give those top 2 lines more chance to create offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lmm Posted May 5, 2021 Share Posted May 5, 2021 4 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: The problem is Pearson as a 3 year solution actually just holds back Horvat from centering a true scoring line. Pearson is an ok player but severely streaky offensively. If this is what they want Horvat to be, then find a couple of talented wingers to put in the top 6, split up EP and Miller to center the top 2, and use Horvat as the shutdown 3C. Its a waste of Horvat really. Miller-EP-Podkolzin Hoglander-Horvat-Boeser Pearson-3C-Lind Or some version of this with an actual elite defensive 3rd line center would give those top 2 lines more chance to create offense. I don't think Pearson or Lind are fast enough to be elite shut down guys and Podkolzin probably bolts like every other Russian to play here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 1 hour ago, lmm said: I don't think Pearson or Lind are fast enough to be elite shut down guys and Podkolzin probably bolts like every other Russian to play here In a perfect world we dont have Pearson in that role but hey we are stuck with him for another 3 plus years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spur1 Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 hours ago, wallstreetamigo said: Had he signed Toffoli, with the emergence of Hoglander this year, Pearson would not have been necessary in the top 6 and as such they could have traded him or signed him to a contract more in line with 2 of his last 3 years of 3rd line level production and being decidedly average at anything rather than ignoring those 2 years and signing him based on last years career year. Nice fantasy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 4 hours ago, lmm said: I don't think Pearson or Lind are fast enough to be elite shut down guys and Podkolzin probably bolts like every other Russian to play here There’s a statistical chance Vasili does bolt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted May 6, 2021 Share Posted May 6, 2021 5 hours ago, *Buzzsaw* said: Every other team had to deal with the pandemic. The difference with the Canucks is they had no cushion at all due to Benning's poor management. It’s a great excuse for anything these days. Why did you sleep with my sister? Pandemic. Why are you chasing me with a splitting maul? Pandemic buddy. Stand still. Where did you just shove that pen? Pandemic, ma’am. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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