tas Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 22 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Lol excuses excuses excuses. You know other teams who have even marginal coaching use the preseason to work out kinks right? Rather than using it as a 7 game exercise to justify keeping plugs over young players. yeah? working out kinks with petey and quinn? oh right, they missed the first half. working out kinks with brock? oh right, he missed the second half. before last night's game, the Canucks had a pp% that would have been top 3 on the NHL last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, CanucksJay said: WHat's not in question? whether hunt is better than burroughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IBatch Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 34 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Good. If they won't put the effort on there should be a consequence. Green the "softie" screaming and yelling and his guys... i can't wait to see what the next generation of coaches decide to do to motivate their millionaire players. Edited October 20, 2021 by IBatch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, tas said: yeah? working out kinks with petey and quinn? oh right, they missed the first half. working out kinks with brock? oh right, he missed the second half. before last night's game, the Canucks had a pp% that would have been top 3 on the NHL last year. And a penalty kill that would not win them games against a junior b team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: And a penalty kill that would not win them games against a junior b team. yeah it's almost like their 3 main penalty killers have yet to be available to them, whoda thunk the pk would get off to a rough start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wallstreetamigo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, tas said: yeah it's almost like their 3 main penalty killers have yet to be available to them, whoda thunk the pk would get off to a rough start? Lol good teams have more than 3 guys who can actually pk moderately effectively when needed. Our special teams are garbage from the system to the execution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwags Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 It's one thing to say it, it's another to follow up. I hope for some fire next game, made all the more easy going against a winless Chicago. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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N4ZZY Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: The Rangers scooped him up. Too bad because he would have been the perfect coach for this group. oh that's right. Too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Qwags said: It's one thing to say it, it's another to follow up. I hope for some fire next game, made all the more easy going against a winless Chicago. Yep. Walk the walk. Talk is cheap. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devron Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Qwags said: It's one thing to say it, it's another to follow up. I hope for some fire next game, made all the more easy going against a winless Chicago. Exactly if there isn’t already some concern there sure will be tomorrow if we play anything like we did yesterday. It tough that was such a let down that I’m not very optimistic and I usually am 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 33 minutes ago, wallstreetamigo said: Umm nhl level skill at even one thing? Easy now. Give him time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alt kilgore Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, Rindiculous said: Burroughs better be in the game instead of Schenn tomorrow. Also, lotto line looked decent at the end of the game should go with that. I like Burroughs. I think we really need him. And I'd agree if it was a choice, most times I'd choose Burroughs at this point for a 5/6 R hand. But for some types of more physical games Schenn should go in. I don't get all the Schenn hate on here. No he's not the fleetest of foot. But he's not a pylon. He can skate. More importantly, he is one of, if not the only one on the team, that can put a little fear into opponents. He hits, and clears the front of the net well with his size. I know plus minus is not a complete indicator of a defenseman's value or reliability, as the top pairings will get the tougher assignments, but still, this is our D plus minus stats now for this season; Bowey . can’t find it. But a -19 career average. Myers -3 Hunt -3 OEL -2 Burroughs -1 Hughes -1 Poolman -1 Rathbone 0 Schenn 0 From my eye test he's looked fine. I don't know what others are looking at. And its great to see that rare event when a Canuck defenseman pastes an opponent into the boards. And I love how he is always primed to step in if any Canuck on the ice is mistreated by an opponent. I am a fan of Luke Schenn. I think if enough other players can remain healthy, and Green can use him more sparingly through the season, he'll be fresher, and invaluable in the post season. I could even see a Hughes / Schenn rematchup in the physical intensity of NHL playoffs. Edited October 21, 2021 by kilgore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N4ZZY Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, IBatch said: Good. If they won't put the effort on there should be a consequence. Green the "softie" screaming and yelling and his guys... i can't wait to see what the next generation of coaches decide to do to motivate their millionaire players. Coaching professionals is hard. You have a crew that just about makes a millions of dollars over years. Some in a span of a year, others over the span of their careers. They're so privileged. How do you get these players to play the right way. Not only are they privileged in just about every aspect of their life, but some of them are even entitled (worse). It's tough. So you punish them. LOL. I hope that practice was so hard, that they don't want another like it. Win in Chicago, and everything resets and is fine. Do this enough times though, and Green could lose the room too. Tough gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 34 minutes ago, Devron44 said: I can be a character guy with a positive attitude. Where do I sign up If I could sign you up. I would, Devron. You'd be good for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tas Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 Just now, wallstreetamigo said: Lol good teams have more than 3 guys who can actually pk moderately effectively when needed. Our special teams are garbage from the system to the execution. nothing is perfect in a cap world, especially 4 road games into a season without a complete roster yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EternalCanuckFan Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 With all the turnover in personnel, I was expecting the team to take some time to find chemistry (which, IMHO, has been evident in the first few games), but the game last night was definitely a bit disconcerting with the lack of urgency in their game. They were so-so in the 1st but then the wheels fell off. Lack of urgency has been a theme with the team over the years even if they have had spurts where that's been OK. I get the mantra of trusting in the process but the team really needs to step up its sense of urgency from puck drop every single game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 9 minutes ago, -Vintage Canuck- said: Why is Dickinson talking about creating a culture of hard work and dedication? Shouldn't that already be in place or at least already being implemented in preseason? Lockwood was working hard and showed a lot of dedication to making McDavid lose his gourd. Where did that get him? Gadjovich showed massive improvement in his skating and positioning. Yet he was waived. One would think that there would already be a culture in place by now, seeing as how the coaching staff has been here for 3 years, minus Brown. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallstreetamigo Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 10 minutes ago, tas said: nothing is perfect in a cap world, especially 4 road games into a season without a complete roster yet. We are missing Sutter and Hamonic. Now Hughes which is a big loss. The other 2 aren’t anything other than replacement level at this point. Its hard to imagine this team ever being closer to a full lineup than they have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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