DJB Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1st 10 seconds I thought it was going to be like that the whole game. Then they fell apart and it was like watching a clown show until the 3rd. Horvat was horrible, but did get a wee bit of redemption for the goal. Dickenson? C’mon man. Skate hold the puck. Gets a break and just muffs it. Dickenson and Horvat can go as far as I’m concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 13 minutes ago, hammertime said: Brock TIME ON ICE FACEOFFS G A +/- S SM BS PN PIM HT TK GV SHFT TOI PPTOI SHTOI ESTOI FW FL FO% 0 0 -1 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 18 16:51 4:53 0:00 11:58 0 0 0.0 I'm sorry to beat a horse here but when Brock doesn't produce he literally does nothing else time and time again straight 0's even when he's producing it's 0's and a goal 0's and and assist. It's not enough considering his contract expectations. Other than his goal, I didn't think Horvat looked great either again. Really making it tough to figure out what to do moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post -Vintage Canuck- Posted February 22, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 59 minutes ago, TNucks1 said: wonder if theres a clip out yet, tried looking on sportsnet. @4petesake posted it a few minutes ago above, but I think seeing a picture of the moment makes it more funny: 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wai_lai416 Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, hammertime said: Brock TIME ON ICE FACEOFFS G A +/- S SM BS PN PIM HT TK GV SHFT TOI PPTOI SHTOI ESTOI FW FL FO% 0 0 -1 3 1 0 0 0 0 1 1 18 16:51 4:53 0:00 11:58 0 0 0.0 I'm sorry to beat a horse here but when Brock doesn't produce he literally does nothing else time and time again straight 0's even when he's producing it's 0's and a goal 0's and and assist. It's not enough considering his contract expectations. *shrug despite his down year he's still on pace for 26 goals.. and assist would obviously be down when ur other winger is not EP and most night it's pearson chiasson dickinson.. add a competent winger on there he probably get 7 more assist and closer to his season avg from previous years.. Miller's line in general don't produce much 5v5. they have what? 21 goals or something between them 5v5? just like EP's assist is down significantly since his wingers rarely scores.. most of the assist on the PP with go to hughes miller and sometimes EP.. so stat wise obviously boeser is going to suffer.. not saying he's good or he's bad.. but if you are saying he useless if he doesn't have a point.. that can be said about a lot of players on this team.. and we are suppose to get a haul for Boeser because he's useless if he doesn't get on the score sheet? CDC mentality Bo and Boeser are useless... but they'll fetch a haul coz they are useless?? 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, MrCanuck94 said: Other than his goal, I didn't think Horvat looked great either again. Really making it tough to figure out what to do moving forward. Well, if people think Horvat isn't playing well, why would they advocate moving him? You don't sell low on a player like Horvat, that's ridiculous 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, stawns said: Well, if people think Horvat isn't playing well, why would they advocate moving him? You don't sell low on a player like Horvat, that's ridiculous The same goes for Boeser, though I'm admittedly okay with trading him If he's struggling this much, do we really get back the kind of value folks are proposing we move him for? Our players can't be simultaneously awful and worth grade A returns 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Well, if people think Horvat isn't playing well, why would they advocate moving him? You don't sell low on a player like Horvat, that's ridiculous Just because they're not playing well doesn't mean they magically lost all their value. Teams have been scouting these players for years, they know what they're getting. Some teams may value Bo and Brock highly and some may not. Just may be time for us to move on if the fit isn't right, which is up for discussion. This team clearly needs change and more play drivers within higher $ players. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, Coconuts said: The same goes for Boeser, though I'm admittedly okay with trading him If he's struggling this much, do we really get back the kind of value folks are proposing we move him for? Our players can't be simultaneously awful and worth grade A returns Boeser is far more contract related than Bo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stawns Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, MrCanuck94 said: Just because they're not playing well doesn't mean they magically lost all their value. Teams have been scouting these players for years, they know what they're getting. Some teams may value Bo and Brock highly and some may not. Just may be time for us to move on if the fit isn't right, which is up for discussion. This team clearly needs change and more play drivers within higher $ players. If he's not playing well, which is bink anyway, do you really think teams are t going to offer less? I think it's moit anyway as Bo carries far too much weight for this team to let him go. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 Just now, stawns said: If he's not playing well, which is bink anyway, do you really think teams are t going to offer less? I think it's moit anyway as Bo carries far too much weight for this team to let him go. Really? Other than the 'C', what makes Bo untouchable? It's becoming more and more clear that Miller is the one we can't let go. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, stawns said: Boeser is far more contract related than Bo. Agreed, but even so CDC isn't seeing anything the management of others teams aren't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Viper007 Posted February 22, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, MrCanuck94 said: Really? Other than the 'C', what makes Bo untouchable? It's becoming more and more clear that Miller is the one we can't let go. Bo is a playoff performer. He usually rises up to the challenge when the games are real big. 1 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_lai416 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Coconuts said: The same goes for Boeser, though I'm admittedly okay with trading him If he's struggling this much, do we really get back the kind of value folks are proposing we move him for? Our players can't be simultaneously awful and worth grade A returns boeser according to cdc is useless when he doesn't get on the score sheet and struggled at times this season.. along with his contract status and that RFA QO hanging in the air.. CDC is expecting teams to line up and offer 1st, B prospect + more .. in reality he's probably worth maybe a player like zacha and a late pick.. which is a great deal for whatever team trades for him and terrible deal for the canucks as they'll need to find a top line winger to play with Miller since everyone is adovating we sign him to his retirement contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinatcc Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Viper007 said: Bo is a playoff performer. He usually rises up to the challenge when the games are real big. Don't you have to make it to the playoffs first before being considered as a playoff performer ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Viper007 said: Bo is a playoff performer. He usually rises up to the challenge when the games are real big. Hard to worry about playoffs when we're struggling to even make it there. Again, I like Horvat, I really do, but I wonder if we're getting too attached to some players and it's causing us to stay in mediocrity. Seeing him be not even close to a difference maker when the team needs him is hard to not notice. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coconuts Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 1 minute ago, wai_lai416 said: boeser according to cdc is useless when he doesn't get on the score sheet and struggled at times this season.. along with his contract status and that RFA QO hanging in the air.. CDC is expecting teams to line up and offer 1st, B prospect + more .. in reality he's probably worth maybe a player like zacha and a late pick.. which is a great deal for whatever team trades for him and terrible deal for the canucks as they'll need to find a top line winger to play with Miller since everyone is adovating we sign him to his retirement contract. Nailed it, we likely don't get the value back for Boeser we'd have gotten in previous seasons Unless he goes on an absolute heater leading up to the deadline we'd be selling low, and even if he does his contract bit likely still hurts his value Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, wai_lai416 said: boeser according to cdc is useless when he doesn't get on the score sheet and struggled at times this season.. along with his contract status and that RFA QO hanging in the air.. CDC is expecting teams to line up and offer 1st, B prospect + more .. in reality he's probably worth maybe a player like zacha and a late pick.. which is a great deal for whatever team trades for him and terrible deal for the canucks as they'll need to find a top line winger to play with Miller since everyone is adovating we sign him to his retirement contract. Like I mentioned before, even if they're struggling, guys like Boeser still have value due to their pedigree. Just because they're not a fit here doesn't mean other GMs won't value them. We're up against the cap and need to find the pieces we want to move forward with and which ones we need to move to bring in younger assets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrCanuck94 Posted February 22, 2022 Share Posted February 22, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Coconuts said: Nailed it, we likely don't get the value back for Boeser we'd have gotten in previous seasons Unless he goes on an absolute heater leading up to the deadline we'd be selling low, and even if he does his contract bit likely still hurts his value If management does decide to trade him, it may be risky to wait into the offseason with the whole contractual process. I don't think his value will be hurt too much based on his pedigree. Edited February 22, 2022 by MrCanuck94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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