cripplereh Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nuxnation said: Yea. Let the young guys play. Save the money. Move myers out even and weaponize the cap. Yes and I forgot Rathbone in there. We have many D men like ten, two extra per spot. We'd have to trade a LD or Rd to accommodate the new guy we either sign or trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVasili Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 For some of these guys who might be looking to up their value on a shorter contract, the offer to play with Quinn Hughes has got to be an attractive proposition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 With all the noise out there that the Canucks have a trade option with San Jose, they may be waiting to verify that they are going to be able to sign who they want in the UFA market before they take steps to free up the 6 million cap hit. If their target falls through, then it doesn't make sense to push to move him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 57 minutes ago, MattWN. said: 100% A 6'7 RHD is going to have value, especially when you're getting him for peanuts. Myers would be a great bottom pairing guy playing a sheltered role, especially in a more competent system. It's when he's playing 18-22 minutes a night against tough matchups that he is a train wreck. Worse players get dealt at the deadline for some high value. He's even a decent #4/2nd pair guy with an appropriate (defensive) partner to cover for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: What about? QH - Schenn Clifton - Hronek xx Myers I think there will be some trades available as teams need to move pieces around and expect some value UFAs available post July 1 - 5 frenzy Schenn and Clifton are both solid defensively both are physical, and both might be open to 2 - 3 year contracts Clifton is interesting…thought he was a righty though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattWN. Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, VegasCanuck said: With all the noise out there that the Canucks have a trade option with San Jose, they may be waiting to verify that they are going to be able to sign who they want in the UFA market before they take steps to free up the 6 million cap hit. If their target falls through, then it doesn't make sense to push to move him. That, or waiting for San Jose to move EK to open the space for Myers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5nothincanucksohno Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Clifton is interesting…thought he was a righty though? I think you are right, would likey have to be him or Schenn then Edited June 29, 2023 by 5nothincanucksohno 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillipBlunt Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 54 minutes ago, Nuxnation said: Yea. Let the young guys play. Save the money. Move myers out even and weaponize the cap. Letting the young guys play is one thing if the young guys are incredibly talented and are naturally acclimating to the NHL. Fact is, if you have an inexperienced defense, those savings will mean nothing, when they're getting walked by more experienced teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, 5nothincanucksohno said: I think you are right, would likey have to be him or Schenn then Maybe if the Myers trade happens we could look at both. Clifton’s scouting report calls him a ‘mobile depth defensemen,’ also like that he’s on the younger side at 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasCanuck Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 17 minutes ago, MattWN. said: That, or waiting for San Jose to move EK to open the space for Myers. Possible....and, they want all the first round picks that they'll get from moving EK, to give to us for Myers.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bure2Win Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) On 2/24/2022 at 1:40 AM, Dazzle said: People talk about Myers and his big contract, but the reality is that the Canucks need him. There's no other replacement. Oh i think there is...... Edited June 29, 2023 by Bure2Win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bure2Win said: Oh i think there is...... Hronek effectively replaced Myers, no? It will be Huggy’s partner (tbd) and Hronek playing top 4 RD minutes. Myers should be playing bottom pairing this season. Unless it’s Huggy Hronek… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballisticsports. Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 hours ago, DownUndaCanuck said: The UFA pool is shrinking, I worry if we trade Myers we won't have anyone to replace him just yet. We already need 1 top-4 defenceman, ideally two, let's not make it 3 unless we can make some savvy trades. Mayfield is surely re-signing with NYI. Graves doesn't want to play in Canada. That leaves Dumba, Klinberg, Dumoulin, Soucy, Holl and Clifton (and some old guys I won't bother mentioning). I worry we're going to throw 6x6 at Klinberg or a bit less at Dumba and end up with the same problem we have with Myers down the line. If there's any world in which we can get Graves and Mayfield for 10M I'd do it but I doubt they're coming here. Even one would turn this team into a playoff team. Neither, and we're struggling with just 2 proper NHL top-4 defencemen. I for one will be glad when the pool has emptied out Never been a fan of overpaying for long term retirement contracts Unless they just want to be here for far less than market value and term, I think we should have learned our lesson by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 14 minutes ago, Ballisticsports. said: I for one will be glad when the pool has emptied out Never been a fan of overpaying for long term retirement contracts Unless they just want to be here for far less than market value and term, I think we should have learned our lesson by now Yeah, the more we can address our needs via trade, the better. Forbort at $3M, Peeke at $2.75M… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Yeah, the more we can address our needs via trade, the better. Forbort at $3M, Peeke at $2.75M… There's all sorts of teams still in a cap crunch.... TBL, CAL, VGK, LAK, DAL, TOR, EDM, MIN, COL... here's hoping we can pull a piece or two from some of them for pennies on the $. Edited June 29, 2023 by aGENT 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 5 minutes ago, aGENT said: There's all sorts of teams still in a cap crunch.... TBL, CAL, VGK, LAK, DAL, TOR, EDM, MIN, COL... here's hoping we can pull a piece or two from some of them for pennies on the $. Deadline to waive players for buyout is tomorrow at noon, so I’ll expect a few cap clearing trades in the morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Just now, Kenny Powers said: Deadline to waive players for buyout is tomorrow at noon, so I’ll expect a few cap clearing trades in the morning Have to have them on waivers today IIRC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Lasso Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 2 minutes ago, aGENT said: Have to have them on waivers today IIRC Oh, was it? Surprised we only saw the one then…Bailey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Vintage Canuck- Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 8 minutes ago, aGENT said: Have to have them on waivers today IIRC 5 minutes ago, Kenny Powers said: Oh, was it? Surprised we only saw the one then…Bailey? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVasili Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 1 hour ago, PhillipBlunt said: Letting the young guys play is one thing if the young guys are incredibly talented and are naturally acclimating to the NHL. Fact is, if you have an inexperienced defense, those savings will mean nothing, when they're getting walked by more experienced teams. Not to mention, with our injury luck, the young guys will get plenty of opportunity anyway. Key is to have enough depth that we aren't playing the guys that shouldn't even be in our future plans. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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