J.I.A.H.N Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 These moves are made to create Cap space, for Miller, Horvat, Blueger and Severson in the 2023-2024 Season. It should be noted that Myers will be coming off the books, the year Roy's contract is up. This keeps our future Picks and allows us to continue to build. We gave a lot of winger strength, but totally over hauled our RHD. IMO, it is easier to replace Wingers than RHD..............Ok, read and blast away!............Note, we keep Miller! I will also say, that I have been really impressed with Lammikko, and feel he could easily move up with Blueger be winger, which we could then find a cheaper 4th line center. Boeser ($6,750,000) and Hamonic ($3,000,000) for Damon Severson (NJ) $4,166,666 X1 Cap Space Saved: - $5,583,333 Garland ($4,950,000) and Dickenson ($2,650,000) for Matt Roy (LA) $3,150,000 X 2 Cap Space Saved - $5,450,000 Hoglander ($891,667) and Motte (1,225,000) for Teddy Blueger (Pitts) $2,200,000 X 1 Cap Space Saved + $83,333 Poolman ($2,500,000) and Halak ($1,500,000) for Anton Stralman ($5,500,000 x 0) Cap Space Saved - $2,500,000 UFA Signings 2nd line - Winger.........................Domi 6 years @ $5,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 Miller ($5,250,000) Pettersson ($7,350,000) Podkolzin ($1,000,000) Pearson ($3,250,000) Horvat ($5,500,000) Domi ( $5,500,000) ..................... Blueger ($2,200,000) ........................ Highmore ($1,000,000) Lammikko (1,000,000) Lockwood ($1,000,000) $33,050,000 Hughes ($7,850,000) Roy ($3,150,000) OEL ($7,260,000) Severson ($4,1666,666) Rathbone ($1,000,000) Myers ($6,000,000) $30,466,666 Schenn ($1,000,000) Demko ($5,000,000) Martin ($1,000,000) $6,000,000 Total : $69,516,666 2022 - 2023 Cap $83,500,000 - $69,516,000 = $13,983,334 - Wingers $7,000,000 = $6,983,334 Cap space 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Blight Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: These moves are made to create Cap space, for Miller, Horvat, Blueger and Severson in the 2023-2024 Season. It should be noted that Myers will be coming off the books, the year Roy's contract is up. This keeps our future Picks and allows us to continue to build. We gave a lot of winger strength, but totally over hauled our RHD. IMO, it is easier to replace Wingers than RHD..............Ok, read and blast away!............Note, we keep Miller! I will also say, that I have been really impressed with Lammikko, and feel he could easily move up with Blueger be winger, which we could then find a cheaper 4th line center. Boeser ($6,750,000) and Hamonic ($3,000,000) for Damon Severson (NJ) $4,166,666 X1 Cap Space Saved: - $5,583,333 Garland ($4,950,000) and Dickenson ($2,650,000) for Matt Roy (LA) $3,150,000 X 2 Cap Space Saved - $5,450,000 Hoglander ($891,667) and Motte (1,225,000) for Teddy Blueger (Pitts) $2,200,000 X 1 Cap Space Saved + $83,333 Poolman ($2,500,000) and Halak ($1,500,000) for Anton Stralman ($5,500,000 x 0) Cap Space Saved - $2,500,000 UFA Signings 2nd line - Winger.........................Domi 6 years @ $5,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 Miller ($5,250,000) Pettersson ($7,350,000) Podkolzin ($1,000,000) Pearson ($3,250,000) Horvat ($5,500,000) Domi ( $5,500,000) ..................... Blueger ($2,200,000) ........................ Highmore ($1,000,000) Lammikko (1,000,000) Lockwood ($1,000,000) $33,050,000 Hughes ($7,850,000) Roy ($3,150,000) OEL ($7,260,000) Severson ($4,1666,666) Rathbone ($1,000,000) Myers ($6,000,000) $30,466,666 Schenn ($1,000,000) Demko ($5,000,000) Martin ($1,000,000) $6,000,000 Total : $69,516,666 2022 - 2023 Cap $83,500,000 - $69,516,000 = $13,983,334 - Wingers $7,000,000 = $6,983,334 Cap space Jan, you usually come out with these on Sunday nights....what's with the delay? Anyways, good proposal other than I think you have us overpaying for Blueger. I do not want to see us lose Hoglander. Your proposal also only includes a 21 man roster and I doubt the team would want to go that route. You also have not included the $2.4M in dead cap salaries for Holtby and Virtanen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 I agree with your selection of Canucks to be traded Wouldn't mind Severson, but not sold on the rest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucker 67 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 just my thoughts Garland and Poolman to NJ for (RD) Damon Severson Boeser to LA for (LW/RW) Adrian Kempe and (C) Gabriel Vilardi Motte to NYR for (RW) Vitali Kravtsov and pick Halak and Hamonic to TOR for (RD) Timothy Liljegren - TOR needs D and goaltending, and I believe they have cap space Miller - Pettersson - Podkolzin Kempe - Horvat - Kravtsov Pearson - Vilardi - Hoglander Highmore - Lammikko - Dickinson (maybe they can get him going) Ekman-Larsson - Severson Hughes - Schenn Rathbone - Myers Liljegren 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 your idea of Motte to NYR for Kravstov is very intriguing, nice idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 2 hours ago, NUCKER67 said: just my thoughts Garland and Poolman to NJ for (RD) Damon Severson Boeser to LA for (LW/RW) Adrian Kempe and (C) Gabriel Vilardi Motte to NYR for (RW) Vitali Kravtsov and pick Halak and Hamonic to TOR for (RD) Timothy Liljegren - TOR needs D and goaltending, and I believe they have cap space Miller - Pettersson - Podkolzin Kempe - Horvat - Kravtsov Pearson - Vilardi - Hoglander Highmore - Lammikko - Dickinson (maybe they can get him going) Ekman-Larsson - Severson Hughes - Schenn Rathbone - Myers Liljegren like them all. I'd even take Littleman to dumperoo Halak. Get er' done JR/PA and friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canucks Curse Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Miller + poolman to LA for Turcotte, Brock Faber, durzi resign motte off season - sign forsberg to whatever Pearson Petterson Garland Podz Horvat Boeser Motte Turcotte Hoglander Highmore Lammiko UFA with size and speed OEL-Myers Hughes Durzi Schenn Faber 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEGCanuck Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Nice try, but if I'm the decision maker, Domi is a non-starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Canucks Curse said: Miller + poolman to LA for Turcotte, Brock Faber, durzi resign motte off season - sign forsberg to whatever Pearson Petterson Garland Podz Horvat Boeser Motte Turcotte Hoglander Highmore Lammiko UFA with size and speed OEL-Myers Hughes Durzi Schenn Faber Well, I was trying to keep all our core, but it is hard IMO, I think we need to have that extra cap, which we could use it short term , but the truth is we need it long term for our other contracts.......... Where I was coming from, was not to weaken the team, but to rid the excess contracts, and strengthen our RHD in the process....I think I did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildcam Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 hours ago, J.I.A.H.N said: These moves are made to create Cap space, for Miller, Horvat, Blueger and Severson in the 2023-2024 Season. It should be noted that Myers will be coming off the books, the year Roy's contract is up. This keeps our future Picks and allows us to continue to build. We gave a lot of winger strength, but totally over hauled our RHD. IMO, it is easier to replace Wingers than RHD..............Ok, read and blast away!............Note, we keep Miller! I will also say, that I have been really impressed with Lammikko, and feel he could easily move up with Blueger be winger, which we could then find a cheaper 4th line center. Boeser ($6,750,000) and Hamonic ($3,000,000) for Damon Severson (NJ) $4,166,666 X1 Cap Space Saved: - $5,583,333 Garland ($4,950,000) and Dickenson ($2,650,000) for Matt Roy (LA) $3,150,000 X 2 Cap Space Saved - $5,450,000 Hoglander ($891,667) and Motte (1,225,000) for Teddy Blueger (Pitts) $2,200,000 X 1 Cap Space Saved + $83,333 Poolman ($2,500,000) and Halak ($1,500,000) for Anton Stralman ($5,500,000 x 0) Cap Space Saved - $2,500,000 UFA Signings 2nd line - Winger.........................Domi 6 years @ $5,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 Miller ($5,250,000) Pettersson ($7,350,000) Podkolzin ($1,000,000) Pearson ($3,250,000) Horvat ($5,500,000) Domi ( $5,500,000) ..................... Blueger ($2,200,000) ........................ Highmore ($1,000,000) Lammikko (1,000,000) Lockwood ($1,000,000) $33,050,000 Hughes ($7,850,000) Roy ($3,150,000) OEL ($7,260,000) Severson ($4,1666,666) Rathbone ($1,000,000) Myers ($6,000,000) $30,466,666 Schenn ($1,000,000) Demko ($5,000,000) Martin ($1,000,000) $6,000,000 Total : $69,516,666 2022 - 2023 Cap $83,500,000 - $69,516,000 = $13,983,334 - Wingers $7,000,000 = $6,983,334 Cap space Hoglander 22 - future top 6 winger speed and Motte 27 --- ---Blueger 27--6'0 never scored more then 22 points-- ---Never make that trade.. Motte --Will get you a 2nd rounder --Hoglander- way to young to be moving unless in a package for a great return..Also level entry contract... Boeser will get you way better return then Sevenson- -Never never --Crazyto make that trade... Need young RD man is the start...LA- NYR-- Col Need good asset back for a top 5 player like Boeser 25 and has already put up good numbers...Lead team in scoring last year... Canucks management team will make good trades... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 16, 2022 Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 3/14/2022 at 1:17 PM, J.I.A.H.N said: These moves are made to create Cap space, for Miller, Horvat, Blueger and Severson in the 2023-2024 Season. It should be noted that Myers will be coming off the books, the year Roy's contract is up. This keeps our future Picks and allows us to continue to build. We gave a lot of winger strength, but totally over hauled our RHD. IMO, it is easier to replace Wingers than RHD..............Ok, read and blast away!............Note, we keep Miller! I will also say, that I have been really impressed with Lammikko, and feel he could easily move up with Blueger be winger, which we could then find a cheaper 4th line center. Boeser ($6,750,000) and Hamonic ($3,000,000) for Damon Severson (NJ) $4,166,666 X1 Cap Space Saved: - $5,583,333 Garland ($4,950,000) and Dickenson ($2,650,000) for Matt Roy (LA) $3,150,000 X 2 Cap Space Saved - $5,450,000 Hoglander ($891,667) and Motte (1,225,000) for Teddy Blueger (Pitts) $2,200,000 X 1 Cap Space Saved + $83,333 Poolman ($2,500,000) and Halak ($1,500,000) for Anton Stralman ($5,500,000 x 0) Cap Space Saved - $2,500,000 UFA Signings 2nd line - Winger.........................Domi 6 years @ $5,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 3rd line - Winger.........................? Approx. $3,500,000 Miller ($5,250,000) Pettersson ($7,350,000) Podkolzin ($1,000,000) Pearson ($3,250,000) Horvat ($5,500,000) Domi ( $5,500,000) ..................... Blueger ($2,200,000) ........................ Highmore ($1,000,000) Lammikko (1,000,000) Lockwood ($1,000,000) $33,050,000 Hughes ($7,850,000) Roy ($3,150,000) OEL ($7,260,000) Severson ($4,1666,666) Rathbone ($1,000,000) Myers ($6,000,000) $30,466,666 Schenn ($1,000,000) Demko ($5,000,000) Martin ($1,000,000) $6,000,000 Total : $69,516,666 2022 - 2023 Cap $83,500,000 - $69,516,000 = $13,983,334 - Wingers $7,000,000 = $6,983,334 Cap space I like them all, but Im not sure why the Stralman trade happens - Stralman and Halak are both UFAs, so Phoenix would just be taking our Poolman contract. I imagine we have to give them something if we want them to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 16, 2022 Author Share Posted March 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: I like them all, but Im not sure why the Stralman trade happens - Stralman and Halak are both UFAs, so Phoenix would just be taking our Poolman contract. I imagine we have to give them something if we want them to take it. LOL I had to go back and think about it a bit, but I got it! Sucks getting old! So, in the end, we are giving Arizona Poolman for Halak's bonus money (I think we can do that!) Poolman is basically a neutral move in the sense that he will be a 3rd pairing DMan, but there just are not alot of RHD, so there is some value to him. His contract is not crippling, and Arizona is trying to shed cap, so this works for them............. I could be wrong, but that was the thought process.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: LOL I had to go back and think about it a bit, but I got it! Sucks getting old! So, in the end, we are giving Arizona Poolman for Halak's bonus money (I think we can do that!) Poolman is basically a neutral move in the sense that he will be a 3rd pairing DMan, but there just are not alot of RHD, so there is some value to him. His contract is not crippling, and Arizona is trying to shed cap, so this works for them............. I could be wrong, but that was the thought process.............. I heard on 650 the Coyotes are interested in Shea Weber's contract so they can use it to get to the cap floor. I don't know how much interest they have in guys they actually have to pay real money to. They would want Ferland, but his contract isn't insured. Benning Edited March 17, 2022 by Alflives Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.I.A.H.N Posted March 17, 2022 Author Share Posted March 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: I heard on 650 the Coyotes are interested in Shea Weber's contract so they can use it to get to the cap floor. I don't know how much interest they have in guys they actually have to pay real money to. True, but the still have house a team. Stralman is gone at the end of this year......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 3 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: True, but the still have house a team. Stralman is gone at the end of this year......... They are going for a serious tank to get Bedard. I wouldn't be suprised if they re-up Loui, Rooster, and the Dog. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eeeeergh Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 18 minutes ago, J.I.A.H.N said: LOL I had to go back and think about it a bit, but I got it! Sucks getting old! So, in the end, we are giving Arizona Poolman for Halak's bonus money (I think we can do that!) Poolman is basically a neutral move in the sense that he will be a 3rd pairing DMan, but there just are not alot of RHD, so there is some value to him. His contract is not crippling, and Arizona is trying to shed cap, so this works for them............. I could be wrong, but that was the thought process.............. I mean i dont think its too far off but I think Poolman is probably about 1m overpaid, catch is he still has a bunch of years left on his contract - thats why i think we'd have to give them a pick to take him 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boknows08 Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 I like some of your ideas but we cant trade guys such as Boeser and Garland just to create cap space. I like Severson but is a ufa soon and will want a hefty raise in a year. At the deadline; Motte, Schenn for Cal Foote+ Halak, Chiasson for picks Since we're in the race can't see much happening. In the off season; After seeing what Hertl just signed for Miller will want 8×9mill and we cant take the risk and giving that term, 4-5 years, yes definitely. Miller, Oel(retain a little), Hamonic for Carlo, Debrusk, Forbort, Vaakanainen, Beecher. Boston is looking for top 6 centre and top 4 lhd plus Oel said he would go there before. Myers for 3rd Use that 3rd, Dickinson, Poolman to Arizona Pearson has a NTC, maybe he'll waive Sign Kuzmenko, Scanlin, Livingston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
higgyfan Posted March 17, 2022 Share Posted March 17, 2022 (edited) I had some spare time this morning, so I decided to tweak this proposal. In the end, it surprised me how, just a few moves could improve the team, as well as provide more cap space + assets. Of course, like all proposes, it only works if the trades actually happen. TDL Capitals get Motte + Burroughs Nucks get Iorio(RD) Offseason New Jersey gets Boeser Van gets Zacka + Fotte LW + 2nd Seattle gets Myers Van gets Appleton + 2nd Pears(3.5) Miller(5.5) Garland(5.0) Zacka(3.50) Pete(7.35) Hogs(.892) Podz(.925) Bo(6.75) Appleton(2.5) Dickie(2.5) Lam(1.5) Highmore (1.2) * Zacka (RFA $3.5m) + Appleton (RFA $2.5m) new contracts covered by trades. * New contract for Bo (6.75x8) Total: $40.9m OEL(7.26) Hamonic(3.0) Hughes(7.85) Schenn(.850) Rathbone(1.2) Pools(2.5) Keeper(.850) Total: $23.51m Demko(5.0) Spencer(1.0) Total: $6m +$6M (from Myers trade) - (.840 Foote) + (1.2 Rathbone) + (1.5 Lammy) + (1.2 Highmore) = $4.26m Total after Myers cap: $1.7m Dead cap: (1.9Holtby) + (.500 Virtanen) + (.762 Keeper) = $3.16m Team salary $70.14 + dead cap $3.16 = $73.57m Ferland LITR + $ 3.50 m Total: $77.07m Leftover from Myers cap (minus) $1.70m Total salary cap: $75.37M *This leaves room for improvement of defence 2nd + Iorio(RD) + Foote(LW) as assets. Edited March 18, 2022 by higgyfan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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