BigTramFan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, coryberg said: Pretty sure a player acquired off of waivers after the deadline can't play in the playoffs. Never heard that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTramFan Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 19 minutes ago, eeeeergh said: My understanding is when Stone and Martinez are healthy they HAVE to activate them. So thats where they'd be punished i hope. Or watch them waive good players or get robbed in a trade, also a reasonable consequence. Yes this is all true. My point was just that they're not healthy yet, so punishment is not due yet. They will likely waive or trade someone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, BPA said: Vegas needs the $5M off their books to activate Martinez so they can’t retain salary at all. Isn't the rule any team must activate a player coming of LTIR once the player is cleared to play? Clearly the Vegas Doctors are as honest and trustworthy as the club. Total bunch of lying cheating bastards. it's going to be funny to watch their rink be empty as their team declines. They don't have any true hockey fans. Just another joke location for hockey. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, BigTramFan said: Yes this is all true. My point was just that they're not healthy yet, so punishment is not due yet. They will likely waive or trade someone... Sure the Vegas doctors are to be trusted. Probably those botox doctors. Joke of a loser city. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPA Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 minute ago, Alflives said: Isn't the rule any team must activate a player coming of LTIR once the player is cleared to play? Clearly the Vegas Doctors are as honest and trustworthy as the club. Total bunch of lying cheating bastards. it's going to be funny to watch their rink be empty as their team declines. They don't have any true hockey fans. Just another joke location for hockey. Yes once cleared to play. But Martinez is probably “close to” returning. Hence the need for a trade. Vegas probably wants him back sooner than later as Vegas has been losing lately. Getting back a top D would be a boost for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeNiro Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 35 minutes ago, BPA said: Vegas needs the $5M off their books to activate Martinez so they can’t retain salary at all. I thought they retained in the original Anaheim deal. Maybe I read it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 32 minutes ago, BPA said: Yes once cleared to play. But Martinez is probably “close to” returning. Hence the need for a trade. Vegas probably wants him back sooner than later as Vegas has been losing lately. Getting back a top D would be a boost for them. And the doctors who make the decision when a guy is ready work for whom exaclty? The doctors are as slimy as the club and the city. Total losers all around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aGENT Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Can we please send them Ferland!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coryberg Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 55 minutes ago, BigTramFan said: Never heard that one... Have you heard of a player being claimed on waivers after the trade deadline? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckthepuck Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 So watching snet after the game and they say vegas wanted to activate stone and Martinez off ir but don't have the cap room. Is that not clear cap circumvention. How can they have 13 mil ready to play but Don't have the space. Would that not put them over the cap with the salaries of the players coming off ltir. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 5 hours ago, WHL rocks said: I think he can play but not in playoffs. It's unclear so I'm not sure but i listen to Jeff Marek show in the background and him and Elliot Friedman were discussing this earlier today. Can't play at all. Players have to be on the team's reserve list at the TDL to be able to play the remainder of the season whether regular games or playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: I thought they retained in the original Anaheim deal. Maybe I read it wrong. They didn't retain but took back Moore's buried 1.625M cap hit. 4 hours ago, DeNiro said: If that trade was there wouldn’t they have just done it at the deadline instead of taking a bad contract and giving up a pick? I don’t think Arizona can afford Dadonov. Maybe if Vegas pays a first and retains 2/3 salary. Maximum retention is 50% and likely not something Vegas wants to do because of that extra year - with everyone healthy next season they are going to have to clear cap. The cost was likely higher with Arizona. Edited March 24, 2022 by mll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alflives Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Nuckthepuck said: So watching snet after the game and they say vegas wanted to activate stone and Martinez off ir but don't have the cap room. Is that not clear cap circumvention. How can they have 13 mil ready to play but Don't have the space. Would that not put them over the cap with the salaries of the players coming off ltir. The team has no choice but to activate guys from LTIR when the guy is cleared to play. It’s not about wanting to do it; they have to do it. The Vegas doctors will not okay Stone and Martinez until the club clears cap. Their doctors, like their team and city, are scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 31 minutes ago, Alflives said: The team has no choice but to activate guys from LTIR when the guy is cleared to play. It’s not about wanting to do it; they have to do it. The Vegas doctors will not okay Stone and Martinez until the club clears cap. Their doctors, like their team and city, are scum They also have Pacioretty, Lehner, Reilly Smith, McNabb on IR - if their injuries linger they could be moved to LTIR. Lehner will apparently need off-season surgery on his shoulder and also has a 5M cap hit - they could advance the timeline given how much they've struggled lately. Vegas are slipping out of the playoff picture and are 3-7-0 over their last 10 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower102 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 56 minutes ago, Alflives said: The team has no choice but to activate guys from LTIR when the guy is cleared to play. It’s not about wanting to do it; they have to do it. The Vegas doctors will not okay Stone and Martinez until the club clears cap. Their doctors, like their team and city, are scum Is there nothing set up where league doctors can evaluate these players and deem them healthy enough to come off the LTIR? If not, I find it ludicrous that they would trust team doctors on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuckthepuck Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alflives said: The team has no choice but to activate guys from LTIR when the guy is cleared to play. It’s not about wanting to do it; they have to do it. The Vegas doctors will not okay Stone and Martinez until the club clears cap. Their doctors, like their team and city, are scum That's what I'm getting at. It's clear by the trade they attempted to make that those players are ready to go. If the trade had gone through as planned I'm confident vegas would of activated both of them but it didn't so how can they remain on ltir. Other teams should seriously be questioning this move. That system is not meant to stash players away that are healthy, those cap hits should be applied to Vegas's cap right now which would put them so far over its rediculous. Tampa last year was shady about it but at no point did they try and pull something like this so atleast their injuries looked legit. The knights just tried to pull one over and it backfired, by no means should they be allowed to keep them out of the lineup they should have to be cap compliant with those players or be penalized this is clear circumvention, Edited March 24, 2022 by Nuckthepuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 10 hours ago, Warhippy said: I want nothing more than to see Vegas miss the playoffs now knowing they can't dress their best due to this. Somebody gonna get a horse head in their bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mll Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Tower102 said: Is there nothing set up where league doctors can evaluate these players and deem them healthy enough to come off the LTIR? If not, I find it ludicrous that they would trust team doctors on this. The league investigates all LTIR cases and there are consequent penalties if a team tries to circumvent the cap. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 minutes ago, mll said: The league investigates all LTIR cases and there are consequent penalties if a team tries to circumvent the cap. The league of crocked old farts who play favorites at the BOG meetings, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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