BarnBurner Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 21 hours ago, McBackup said: Are you surprised? Any time a Leaf player or executive wipes their ass they say it’s a brilliant move. Just don't give us the play-by-play analysis! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal:thecup Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Canuckster86 said: dumping a 3m plus contract with 2 years left on it while retaining ZERO salary to only drop down 13 spots in the draft...is sad to say a great move for toronto and a stupid move by chicago, why help out a cap strapped team who can go spend more $ on a #1G to maybe help them win a playoff round finally. Do people forget chicago giving up prime assets to dump the contracts of bickell and darling among others? I'm a little sloshed but, didn't the Laffs also give up extra later picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 4:19 PM, Mustard Tiger said: Well shoot that's what I get for not reading all that way back to the og posts. He's a great individual player, Nothing you said is incorrect. But if I'm building a team, I'm not spending what almost 1/3 of the cap on 3 guys dissappear come playoff time! My goals to win cups not collect personal trophies haha Yeah for sure, I would pick others before Marner based on clutch post season play alone. He said Marner was overpaid, and maybe you can make an argument about that but if you're ok with paying Miller say $8.5 then $10.9 for Marner is about right based on his elite production and age. The kid's been well over a PPG in his career and is one of the best playmakers in the league at 25. If you look at the other players in his salary range, the leaf's are getting their money's worth more than most teams are who have a similar contract. The Leafs post season woes obviously can't be pinned on Marner alone. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boudrias Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 On 7/8/2022 at 8:56 AM, Harold Drunken said: Again, he was over a PPG in the playoffs. Marner isn't paid to shut players down. He's paid to create offense. This notion you have that every player in the NHL is or should be on a similar level of defensive play and responsibility is false and unrealistic. Stevie Y says hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coho8888 Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 hmm. A minus for trying to fix a stupid mistake. Yep. https://winnipegsun.com/sports/traikos-scout-says-habs-jets-leafs-were-big-canadian-team-winners-at-nhl-draft/wcm/ada81fbd-d51e-489e-ae7c-d9436f562804?utm_term=Autofeed&utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwAR228Rr0Xn25no3-KkILVprkDd2pGGfVxeiTMCipI3Djxw7RD_Glh2y1oZ4#Echobox=1657544702 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrJockitch Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 5:14 PM, Canuckster86 said: dumping a 3m plus contract with 2 years left on it while retaining ZERO salary to only drop down 13 spots in the draft...is sad to say a great move for toronto and a stupid move by chicago, why help out a cap strapped team who can go spend more $ on a #1G to maybe help them win a playoff round finally. Do people forget chicago giving up prime assets to dump the contracts of bickell and darling among others? Yep, Blackhawks lost their minds at the draft. Terrible GM so far. He should have got the first and not have to give the second. Worse than the DeBrincat deal which at the very least should of got a good prospect on top of the pics. They should consider hiring Benning. He was better than this guy so far. Edited July 11, 2022 by DrJockitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) 4 hours ago, Boudrias said: Stevie Y says hi. I have no idea what this is supposed to mean. Tell him I say hi back, big fan! Edited July 11, 2022 by Harold Drunken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 (edited) On 7/8/2022 at 1:53 PM, King Heffy said: However everyone does need to buy in. Washington didn't win the Cup until Ovechkin worked at becoming a 200 foot player. Having an uber talented, deep roster with great goaltending may have also had something to do with it. To say Washington didn't win a cup until Ovie started backchecking harder is hilarious. Having several players be at or near a PPG helped Having Holtby post a 2.16 GAA and a .922 save % with 2 shutouts in the playoffs helped But you're right, Ovechkin's defensive prowess won them that cup Don't tell Kuznetsov and his 32 points in 24 games that though. Or the fact Ovie had 27 points in 24 games Or Backstrom having 23 points in 20 games Or all the stellar secondary scoring. Edited July 11, 2022 by Harold Drunken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Heffy Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 4 minutes ago, Harold Drunken said: Having an uber talented, deep roster with great goaltending may have also had something to do with it. To say Washington didn't win a cup until Ovie started backchecking harder is hilarious. That was one of their weaker rosters since they become a contender. Ovi buying in set the tone for everyone to do what was needed to win. You can't have your stars floating if you want to succeed in the playoffs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Drunken Posted July 11, 2022 Share Posted July 11, 2022 5 minutes ago, King Heffy said: That was one of their weaker rosters since they become a contender. Ovi buying in set the tone for everyone to do what was needed to win. You can't have your stars floating if you want to succeed in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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